Prop Size ( Dia, Pitch and # of Blades) for CD33s & 330s

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Neil Kozlowski
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Prop Size ( Dia, Pitch and # of Blades) for CD33s & 330s

Post by Neil Kozlowski »

If you have a CD33 or CD330 with a 3000 RPM 24/25HP engine, and you are using a fixed blade propeller, please tell me what size prop you are using AND if you happy with it.

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Jim Evans
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CD33 Prop Size

Post by Jim Evans »

Hi Neil,

I'm using a 14X10 on my 33, powered by a Yanmar 3GM30F. I'm cruising at 2600 rpm, with a 2.3:1 gearbox. I'm very happy with the configuration.

At the moment, I'm on the hard in Deale, working on changing my cutlass bearing. Lots of fun!

Jim
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Post by M. R. Bober »

Neil,
We should have spoken @ Groundhog Day. RESPITE started out w/ a 2 blade 14x10. When I opted for a third blade, conventional wisdom called for 14x8 (keep the diameter & drop 2" off the pitch), but the prop shop owner--knowledgeable old timer--suggested that my two blade (a Columbia) was high chord("heavy chord"??) and a drop of only 1" might be possible.

His rule of thumb was a diesel engine in forward gear should be able to attain a speed within 100 rpm of the no load speed. I found the 3 blade 14x9 is a bit too much for the Universal M-30 to push (i.e. cannot attain high enough rpm in gear, and she starts to run hotter than I like).

I'm trying to find a prop shop that can drop the pitch the second inch. Also RESPITE'S M-30 was one of those with the 2 inch heat exchanger. I bought Ed Haley's 3 inch exchanger, which I will install after launch. That should solve the warm running, but unforunately won't add a few hundred rpm.

Every best wish,
Mitchell Bober
Sunny Annapolis (home of PROPer sailors), MD
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And I'm Using a 3 blade prop

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Neil - I forgot to tell you I'm using a 3 blade prop; a 14X10.

Jim
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Post by Zeida Cecilia-Mendez »

Neil, Bandolera II has a Michigan prop 14 RH 13 wo 12 (right turning) three blade. My Universal Model 30 #5424 cruises happily at 2200 rpm's without overheating and will go up to 2500 rpm's but if I stay for too long at the higher speeds, it will tend to get hot. But then I reduce speed somewhat -back to the 20's- and the engine immediately cools off. And that is still with my old 2" heat exchanger.

I had tried to buy Ed Haley's 3" heat exchanger, but I was pre-empted by M.Bober :cry:

Over all, my 3 blade prop works very well.
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Post by Tom Keevil »

We have a Campbell Sailor 14 x 10, the Universal 5424 with the 2" heat exchanger, and we have the overheating at high rpms mentioned above. Otherwise, we're very happy with it.
Tom and Jean Keevil
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Thank You all for the inputs

Post by Neil Kozlowski »

Thanks all for the input. I'm using a 14 Dia by 10 Pitch, 3 blade michigan wheel prop. I was having a few problems so I wanted to see what the fleet was using to see if my prop was in the ball park. I have concluded it is! Thanks again.
Neil Kozlowski
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