Wanted to buy: tiller strap and cap for my CD 25D

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Riverleigh
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Wanted to buy: tiller strap and cap for my CD 25D

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I lost my steering (since repaired) on an outing last fall. I should have had an emergency tiller. (My rule is that if I am prepared for it, it probably won't happen again.) I think a tiller strap and cap would have avoided a tow. Let me know if this is the correct solution. It would be helpful if you know what size tiller strap and cap I should be looking for.
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Doug
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Re: Wanted to buy: tiller strap and cap for my CD 25D

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Riverleigh wrote:I lost my steering (since repaired) on an outing last fall. I should have had an emergency tiller. (My rule is that if I am prepared for it, it probably won't happen again.) I think a tiller strap and cap would have avoided a tow. Let me know if this is the correct solution. It would be helpful if you know what size tiller strap and cap I should be looking for.
Thanks,
Doug
S/V FOLLY
Can I ask what happened to cause you to think having a spare tiller is necessary? Maybe we can learn something....
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Re: Wanted to buy: tiller strap and cap for my CD 25D

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John Stone wrote: Can I ask what happened to cause you to think having a spare tiller is necessary? Maybe we can learn something....
Well... I'm guessing he really wants an emergency tiller since a fair number of CD25Ds actually have a wheel vs tiller???
Brings back my observation that in 55+ years of sailing, I have yet to see a tiller boat that carries an emergency wheel!
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Re: Wanted to buy: tiller strap and cap for my CD 25D

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mgphl52 wrote:
John Stone wrote: Can I ask what happened to cause you to think having a spare tiller is necessary? Maybe we can learn something....
Well... I'm guessing he really wants an emergency tiller since a fair number of CD25Ds actually have a wheel vs tiller???
Brings back my observation that in 55+ years of sailing, I have yet to see a tiller boat that carries an emergency wheel!
CD 25D had a wheel option? I had no idea.
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Re: Wanted to buy: tiller strap and cap for my CD 25D

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John Stone wrote: CD 25D had a wheel option? I had no idea.
From the 1982 sales brochure it appears the CD25D came "both ways" vs the CD27 tiller only?
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And the CD28 was tiller vs the CD30 being wheel? but I'm guessing there were options the buyer could select.
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Re: Wanted to buy: tiller strap and cap for my CD 25D

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Well, I won’t even bother to ask the obvious question....
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Re: Wanted to buy: tiller strap and cap for my CD 25D

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As some on this board may recall, I spent several years searching for my Cape Dory 25D. I personally inspected at least 15-20 of these models and viewed many, many more from website photos before finding my "Sophia Loren".

In all those years and searches I never inspected one Cape Dory 25D that had wheel steering. I did view one CD 25D on a website listing that had a wheel installed. I believe it was located somewhere in NY or Long Island area. I believe the listing said it was changed from tiller to wheel by a prior owner but I am not positive about this.

To the best of my knowledge, Cape Dory Yachts never installed a wheel steering system on the CD 25D. I also do not believe it was offered as a factory "option" although I suppose Mr. Valvolotis would have installed one at owner's request and for the right price.

As a practical matter, the cockpit of the CD 25D is too small for a functional wheel. Also the space under the cockpit aft of the Yanmar diesel is too small to properly install a steering quadrant that can be reasonably accessed for maintenance or repair.
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Re: Wanted to buy: tiller strap and cap for my CD 25D

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Sorry about the delayed response. Yes, my 25D has an Edson post and wheel. I lost steering in somewhat heavy weather. Apparently, one of the cables came off one of the blocks. Note to self: check the cable tension every Spring. I am not sure if an emergency tiller would have helped since it felt as if the cable was jammed. But, as I said earlier, if I prepare for it, it won't happen.
Thanks so much for the feedback.
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