Almost lost our boat today.
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Re: Almost lost our boat today.
Glad there was no serious damage at this near miss Cathy. Sounds like a serious oversight at the yard.
We had a boat sink (water above the engine and berths) this spring in our marina. The boat was launched on schedule without the owner present. The crew at the yard overlooked an oversight by the owner who left a winterizing tap open at the motor intake seacock. The marina, to their credit, pumped the boat, dealt with the motor and the owner has thoroughly dried and cleaned the interior but there will always be a little sign down below that this happened. If the slip was deeper it could have been really bad.
Yeah, it's best to be present at splash time!
We had a boat sink (water above the engine and berths) this spring in our marina. The boat was launched on schedule without the owner present. The crew at the yard overlooked an oversight by the owner who left a winterizing tap open at the motor intake seacock. The marina, to their credit, pumped the boat, dealt with the motor and the owner has thoroughly dried and cleaned the interior but there will always be a little sign down below that this happened. If the slip was deeper it could have been really bad.
Yeah, it's best to be present at splash time!
Paul
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That's how they do it at Marina Bay in Boston... it's the yard foreman who boards every vessel while it's still in the slings, pulls up every floor board, checks the stuffing box, and makes sure that the water is staying on the outside where it belongs. (I've gotten calls that LIQUIDITY was launched but that there was a slight drip in the stuffing box. That was the right call in that case, to let me know but not delay the launch where all that was needed was a minor adjustment.)DAVIDPERRY wrote:... while the vessel was still in the slings, ...
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What a terrible story but with a good ending. I certainly hope you're not going to be charged for the round trip!!
The ONLY time I ever allowed someone else to work on my boat, they almost sank me. That means the task list is beyond my free time and hence my ability to keep up, so I prioritize. Rig? Check. Engine and related mechanicals? Check. Plumbing/seacocks, etc? Check. Lights and instruments? Check. Cosmetics? I wish I had more time!!
The ONLY time I ever allowed someone else to work on my boat, they almost sank me. That means the task list is beyond my free time and hence my ability to keep up, so I prioritize. Rig? Check. Engine and related mechanicals? Check. Plumbing/seacocks, etc? Check. Lights and instruments? Check. Cosmetics? I wish I had more time!!
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Same thing happened in Haverstraw Marina few years back to other boat. I learned a lesson and chained my boat to the fence or electric pole until I was ready to launch.
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Kathy, Spartan marine clearly informed us that each sea cock is mated. Never mix the cones to the outside part. Milled to perfection, one at a time. Did the marina guys check each one?
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Yep, we know that. Bruce had each of them labeled so he could put them back where they came from. They’re all apart again. Now, if it would just stop raining.Doug Jesseman wrote:Kathy, Spartan marine clearly informed us that each sea cock is mated. Never mix the cones to the outside part. Milled to perfection, one at a time. Did the marina guys check each one?
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Glad Realization and you guys are safe and sound.
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Sounds scary! I'm glad it turned out ok
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What Cathy and Dean are referring to I believe are the barrels of the seacock, not the seacock itself being removed / installed while the boat is in the water. Although the thru-hull fitting and the seacock are separate pieces, seacocks on Cape Dorys are thru-bolted to the hull before the thru-hull fitting is screwed in. It generally has to be removed first in order to expose and remove the thru-bolts.
I had an interesting "occurrence" as a broker, when I tried to lightly test a seacock to see if it was frozen on a boat that was in the water. (brokers and customers are not supposed to run, operate or test anything, only show the boat) But, as it was a Cape Dory, I figured I could test it with care. The stud on the barrel on which the retaining / adjusting nuts are screwed, broke right off, and the barrel and handle started to come out! Totally affected by electrolysis, there was hardly anything left of the stud. On a Saturday afternoon in Annapolis of all places. Fortunately, I was able to wire the seacock barrel in place with stuff found on board. But a good lesson learned, both as a broker and as a boat owner. I now always advise that, when working on thru-hull valves when the boat is in the water, be sure it is with a travelift nearby and during working hours!
Dave Perry
I had an interesting "occurrence" as a broker, when I tried to lightly test a seacock to see if it was frozen on a boat that was in the water. (brokers and customers are not supposed to run, operate or test anything, only show the boat) But, as it was a Cape Dory, I figured I could test it with care. The stud on the barrel on which the retaining / adjusting nuts are screwed, broke right off, and the barrel and handle started to come out! Totally affected by electrolysis, there was hardly anything left of the stud. On a Saturday afternoon in Annapolis of all places. Fortunately, I was able to wire the seacock barrel in place with stuff found on board. But a good lesson learned, both as a broker and as a boat owner. I now always advise that, when working on thru-hull valves when the boat is in the water, be sure it is with a travelift nearby and during working hours!
Dave Perry
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wow ...
My personal rule is; I'm there when launching ... then, at least, "it's my fault".
I also know I drive the yard guys a little nutty. Too bad - it's my boat.
I had a yard grunt tell me once it would "probably be better" if I was not there when they stepped the mast. (I had it pulled mid-season for a repair)
I went to the manager and straightened that out right away.
cheers and stay afloat
Fred
My personal rule is; I'm there when launching ... then, at least, "it's my fault".
I also know I drive the yard guys a little nutty. Too bad - it's my boat.
I had a yard grunt tell me once it would "probably be better" if I was not there when they stepped the mast. (I had it pulled mid-season for a repair)
I went to the manager and straightened that out right away.
cheers and stay afloat
Fred
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