TyTwo Progress (Now Almost Blue)

[TyTwo]

Hi all,

After dozens of hours of scraping/sanding and priming, I applied the first coat of Blue Interlux Perfection today to the topsides of my Typhoon (renamed Almost Blue, formerly Megan E).

While I think it will be fine, I'm not thrilled with how it came out today. I've done some rolling and tipping in the past, but today I ended up with more streaking from the brush than I have in the past. It was a high=quality natural brush, so I'm not sure what's up there. I might try foam with the next coat. The other thing is that because the primer is white, the first coat is splotchy. I'm trying to keep it thin! I can never figure out how to post photos here, but there are some online here:

http://tytwo.shutterfly.com/

[Steve Laume]

You are doing great. Don't sweat the first coat too much. You are going to see the brush marks over the primer. You just don't want to feel them when you run your hand over the finish once it has dried. If you do try the foam brush, make sure you have the natural bristle one ready to go back to. I have a feeling you are going to like the finish once you build some coverage. Nice bold blue, now what color for the boot stripe?

Great project, Steve.

[TyTwo]

Thanks Steve. I'm not sure about the boot stripe. I mean if I have one it will be white, but because the water line was sooooo awful before, I think it might be smart to get her in the water for a season before putting a boot stripe on, just in case the new water line needs to be tweaked.

[Steve Laume]

For setting the boot stripe on the dinghies I have restored I used the float method.

First the boat needs to be in very calm water. I then take a large chunk of blue foam, big enough so it doesn't rock around. On the foam I set up blocks at the desired heights and with a pencil resting on them mark the line around the hull. This will give you an upper and lower line that allow for the curve of the hull.

I think this method is more accurate and easier than anything you can do with the boat on the hard. It is also kind of fun if the water is not only calm but also warm, Steve.

[Skeep]

So that I don't put up a redundant posting, I searched for a good thread on Boot Stripe application. I found this one, however, it seems it stopped with Steve's comment on or about 4/11...and that's been a few years back. But the subject is still ripe and especially as it is now approaching Spring and a bunch of us are wanting to do some bottom work and get to putting a boot stripe on our TYs.

Number 1:
So in a sincere effort to solicit ideas and information, I put this up as a renewal of the topic. I found the video by SAIL magazine on boot stripe set-up to be the most logical and the driest option ( in contrast to the bob-in-the-water method advised by some -- water is sometimes a bit to frisky for that method..? ). See the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pw3VOs3wLg

Number 2:
Ok so after that I did want to see what my current boot stripe location looked to be. A photo of Baggy Wrinkles at rest in calm conditions revealed the anomaly of my current stripe. Keeping in mind the motor weighs only about 25 to 30 pounds, it certainly causes the vessel to rise at the front a bit. However, once I get my big body in the vessel the stern will dip again due to my 190 pounds. Thus I must determine that the stripe is too low at rest.

So I ask you to evaluate along with me. I have made the photo about 800x210 a bit large to see better:



I would estimate I need to raise up about 4 inches so that at rest, the stripe is evidently visible but when underway, it sinks into the water and apart from heeling, the stripe is visible but not too high at all. Thoughts??

[Gary H]

Skeep,
I have owned a Ty and now sail a CD22D. With both boats, the sterns sat low in the water. On the 22D, I figure it is due to the boat not having been originally designed to hold a Diesel engine and fuel tank. With Typhoons, I have noticed significant variation from boat to boat on how they sit. On both boats, I raised the bootstripe so that the top of the stripe touched the bottom of the transom. Even then, they sat too low.

[tjr818]

Too low in the stern seems common for the smaller CDs. Our 27 squats unless the mate and I sit very far forward in the cockpit. Our 27 does not have an anchor locker forward, but we do have a water tank under the V berth. Keeping that tank full helps - a little. I prefer that the waterline looks right when I am looking at the boat at rest rather than the waterline being correct with everyone on board. The boat should be heeling when we are aboard, right?

[Skeep]

Gary, thanks for the photos! Where is that by the way?

Your photos help immensely. Plus, I note you took the advantage SAIL magazine advises on extending the top of the boot-stripe's width as the lines enter below the stern area so as to follow the water rather than reason. ( Now that's an interesting discussion! ) For those who haven't viewed it see this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pw3VOs3wLg


Both you and Tim have good input on this. As I relook the photo of Baggy Wrinkles, I see at once the beginning of the bottom paint area would suggest the boot stripe could certainly rise up the 4 inches I think I propose. I think 4 might be the right width while also using the method of following the water line under the stern.

Could it be that the correct measurement for the stripe originates at that place under the stern? For if you bring that line to the beam, as you have done on Fandango, when it gets to the beam, it is about 3 to 4 inches I believe, from observing the photo, and that beam point is exactly correct to the naked eye. What do you think of that logic on waterline?

It would be nice to know from other Ty owners the width they have on their stripes? Or, if they use a small strip with a large leaving a white gap?

[Gary H]

The method shown in the video looks pretty slick. I used a laser level on a tripod - similar to the method shown in Don Casey's book; however, he describes it done with a water level. If you mark the top line and the bottom line with the level, the widening at the stern takes care of itself.

[wsfanning]

I'm in the process of pulling my Typhoon into the shop and raising the stripe as well as painting new topsides. This video is a nice way to start out or to adjust your stripe but it takes some time to set up. Of course I can't set her back into the water as easily but last years water marks will give me some idea where to start. I'll post some pics next week as the process starts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEoi2E0 ... ubs_digest

[Skeep]

That video is utterly hilarious! Well, we can't turn our Ty's over and do that method however, but it is interesting to see how differently a line can be established. I think I'm sticking with the SAIL video using the movable points. I marked my hull a year ago with that method, and as I stated above, the point from under the transom to the bow seemed to fit the Ty just right. Love these photos. It's been a while since I've re-studied this thread. Good stuff. Thanks for that video, it was interesting.