This might seem like a silly question, but does the cruising spinaker for the CD-30 have one sheet or two? If it only uses one, how do you tack the boat? The only picture I have of the rig is the original Cape Dory flyer that describes the boat and has a picture of the CD-30 on the front cover with the cruising spinaker flying. The picture shows the staysail flying, also the main. Even with a magnifying glass, I only see one spinaker sheet. Also, the picture seems to show that the spinaker is not drawn tight to the head of the mast. I assume this is done to allow the spinaker luff to belly out and fly fuller.
Any comments or advice you could provide would be appreciated. The 1st. Mate is concerned about the two of us flying this chute alone. Is it a two person job? Oh, also, how do you get it down? Release the clew, lower the halyard while pulling it into the cockpit with the sheet or drop it like a normal jib? Thanks for your help!!!
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
Hanalei
Cruising Spinaker, CD-30
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kevin aubuchon
Re: Cruising Spinaker, CD-30
One sheet. You have to walk the sheet over to tack. Usually you set it when you can have a nice long run on the same course. For raising/lowering, I've used a "sock" device. While the sail is still in the sock, the sail is raised. Then there is a line to raise the sock, exposing the sail, and letting it fill. To lower the sail, lower the sock first, snuffing the sail. Then lowering the halyard lowers the sock. A cruising spinnaker is not hanked on.Dave Stump, Hanalei wrote: This might seem like a silly question, but does the cruising spinaker for the CD-30 have one sheet or two?
Hanalei
I'd be interested in the increase in boat speed it gives you, if you wouldn't mind posting it.
Good Luck!
kevin aubuchon
kaubuchon@primary.net
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D. Stump, Hanalei
Re: Cruising Spinaker, CD-30
Kevin,
Thanks for your help, I just called West Marine and they will take back the extra 60' of single braid I no longer need! I didn't think I was crazy, but I'm use to flying a full triradial spinaker on other boats, never used a cruising spinaker before. Yes, I will let you know what it does to boat speed. It should be fun, I'm looking forward to it!
Thanks for your help, I just called West Marine and they will take back the extra 60' of single braid I no longer need! I didn't think I was crazy, but I'm use to flying a full triradial spinaker on other boats, never used a cruising spinaker before. Yes, I will let you know what it does to boat speed. It should be fun, I'm looking forward to it!
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Catherine Monaghan
Re: Cruising Spinaker, CD-30
Dave,
I've got a UK Flasher (cruising spinnaker) on my CD32. It can also be trimmed with either one sheet or two. Here are UK's instructions for jibing the Flasher:
JIBING THE FLASHER
Jibing the Flasher is easy. The boat should be steered so that the wind is approximately 150 degrees over the windward quarter. The sail is eased until the body of the sail is ahead of, and to leeward of, the headstay. At this point the boat should be turned quickly to place the wind over the opposite quarter. Now trim your Flasher to the new side as the main is jibed. Jibes can be accomplished either by using two sheets or by leading a single sheet out and around the headstay.
TWO-SHEET METHOD: A second sheet is led from the clew around the front of the headstay to the turning block on the aft quarter. To begin this sequence, trim the mainsail tight so that the boom is over the boat. Then ease the present Flasher sheet until the sail is entirely forward and to leeward of the headstay. The boat is then jibed rapidly and the new sheet trimmed. Finally, the main is eased to its proper angle of trim.
ONE-SHEET METHOD: Steer the boat so that the wind is just off the windward quarter. Start the jibe by trimming the main tight so that the boom is over the boat. Ease the Flasher sheet until the entire foot is streaming out in front of the boat. Walk forward with the sheet, pass it around the headstay, and lead it to the new side. Then turn the boat onto the other jibe. Trim the sail, jibe the mainsail and ease the mainsheet.
There's more information regarinding the use of the sail at: <a href="http://www.uksailmakers.com/flashertrim ... im.html</a> You may find it helpful since it sounds like you've not used a cruising spinnaker before. They should all work basically the same way.
It's a fun and beautiful sail to fly, have fun.
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 Realization
Raritan Bay
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
I've got a UK Flasher (cruising spinnaker) on my CD32. It can also be trimmed with either one sheet or two. Here are UK's instructions for jibing the Flasher:
JIBING THE FLASHER
Jibing the Flasher is easy. The boat should be steered so that the wind is approximately 150 degrees over the windward quarter. The sail is eased until the body of the sail is ahead of, and to leeward of, the headstay. At this point the boat should be turned quickly to place the wind over the opposite quarter. Now trim your Flasher to the new side as the main is jibed. Jibes can be accomplished either by using two sheets or by leading a single sheet out and around the headstay.
TWO-SHEET METHOD: A second sheet is led from the clew around the front of the headstay to the turning block on the aft quarter. To begin this sequence, trim the mainsail tight so that the boom is over the boat. Then ease the present Flasher sheet until the sail is entirely forward and to leeward of the headstay. The boat is then jibed rapidly and the new sheet trimmed. Finally, the main is eased to its proper angle of trim.
ONE-SHEET METHOD: Steer the boat so that the wind is just off the windward quarter. Start the jibe by trimming the main tight so that the boom is over the boat. Ease the Flasher sheet until the entire foot is streaming out in front of the boat. Walk forward with the sheet, pass it around the headstay, and lead it to the new side. Then turn the boat onto the other jibe. Trim the sail, jibe the mainsail and ease the mainsheet.
There's more information regarinding the use of the sail at: <a href="http://www.uksailmakers.com/flashertrim ... im.html</a> You may find it helpful since it sounds like you've not used a cruising spinnaker before. They should all work basically the same way.
It's a fun and beautiful sail to fly, have fun.
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 Realization
Raritan Bay
Dave Stump, Hanalei wrote: This might seem like a silly question, but does the cruising spinaker for the CD-30 have one sheet or two? If it only uses one, how do you tack the boat? The only picture I have of the rig is the original Cape Dory flyer that describes the boat and has a picture of the CD-30 on the front cover with the cruising spinaker flying. The picture shows the staysail flying, also the main. Even with a magnifying glass, I only see one spinaker sheet. Also, the picture seems to show that the spinaker is not drawn tight to the head of the mast. I assume this is done to allow the spinaker luff to belly out and fly fuller.
Any comments or advice you could provide would be appreciated. The 1st. Mate is concerned about the two of us flying this chute alone. Is it a two person job? Oh, also, how do you get it down? Release the clew, lower the halyard while pulling it into the cockpit with the sheet or drop it like a normal jib? Thanks for your help!!!
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
Hanalei
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
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Brent Musolf
Re: Cruising Spinaker, CD-30
Dave,
I have been racing on non-capedory boats for a while and we fly boat symetricals and asymetricals during our races. Here are a few things that I have found to be crucial for saftey and speed. First, use both spinnaker sheets if you are sailing where other boats may be a factor, if you have to jibe then you will want the other sheet so the spinaker will not wrap on the headstay. Second, this is for speed, add a single block at the bow and run a line through to the tack and to the cockpit and do not attach the spinaker to the headstay. This line will act as polelift would on a symetrical. let the line out to power up the shoot and pull it in to power it down. This configuration will also allow you to launch for the cockpit. This is done by attaching all line while the spinaker is still in the turtle and running the tack line forward through the block and back to the cockpit (I do this before I leave the dock on my capedory). Arrange the corners of the sail just as you would a symetrical. When you are set to launch hoist the halyard, the pull in the tack line, then sheet. This can all be done in less than 30 seconds, with out ever having to have someone leave the cockpit (your wife will love this idea,mine does). When you are ready to drop it, let the tack line go and the spinaker will blow back behind the speaders. Grab the shoot and start pulling (again you are in the cockpit) when you have gathered a bit of it let the sheet go. Now, have someone ease the halyard as the spinaker is brought on board. This way you can get it on deck or directly below with minimal fuss and hopefully the sail will still be dry. I have used this approach on many boats incuding my own capedory in winds ranging from 1 knot to,one crazy day in gulf in a big race, 42 knots. As I am the foredeck person on my race team this technique has very high marks in my eyes.
Hope this helps,
Brent
bmusolf@usa.net
I have been racing on non-capedory boats for a while and we fly boat symetricals and asymetricals during our races. Here are a few things that I have found to be crucial for saftey and speed. First, use both spinnaker sheets if you are sailing where other boats may be a factor, if you have to jibe then you will want the other sheet so the spinaker will not wrap on the headstay. Second, this is for speed, add a single block at the bow and run a line through to the tack and to the cockpit and do not attach the spinaker to the headstay. This line will act as polelift would on a symetrical. let the line out to power up the shoot and pull it in to power it down. This configuration will also allow you to launch for the cockpit. This is done by attaching all line while the spinaker is still in the turtle and running the tack line forward through the block and back to the cockpit (I do this before I leave the dock on my capedory). Arrange the corners of the sail just as you would a symetrical. When you are set to launch hoist the halyard, the pull in the tack line, then sheet. This can all be done in less than 30 seconds, with out ever having to have someone leave the cockpit (your wife will love this idea,mine does). When you are ready to drop it, let the tack line go and the spinaker will blow back behind the speaders. Grab the shoot and start pulling (again you are in the cockpit) when you have gathered a bit of it let the sheet go. Now, have someone ease the halyard as the spinaker is brought on board. This way you can get it on deck or directly below with minimal fuss and hopefully the sail will still be dry. I have used this approach on many boats incuding my own capedory in winds ranging from 1 knot to,one crazy day in gulf in a big race, 42 knots. As I am the foredeck person on my race team this technique has very high marks in my eyes.
Hope this helps,
Brent
bmusolf@usa.net