Has anyone ever used......

[D. Stump, Hanalei]

Captains Commanding,

Hanalei's new miter cut roller furling jib will arrive from Mack Sails next week. I am considering replacing the jib halyard. The question is, "Has anyone ever attached the jib halyard to the jib using a half-hitch seized to a shackle?" This means no splice! The idea is to allow full haul of the jib without the possibility of the splice jamming in the mast head sheaves. I've seen it done on a racer in the next slip to Hanalei. Looked like a neat idea. Oh, what shackle would you use for a jib halyard?.....your comments, Sirs...............

Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA Number ONE ! ! !(and intending to stay that way!)

[Eric]

I don't use a shackle. Just a bowline. I'd avoid a half-hitch in such situations.

Captains Commanding,

Hanalei's new miter cut roller furling jib will arrive from Mack Sails next week. I am considering replacing the jib halyard. The question is, "Has anyone ever attached the jib halyard to the jib using a half-hitch seized to a shackle?" This means no splice! The idea is to allow full haul of the jib without the possibility of the splice jamming in the mast head sheaves. I've seen it done on a racer in the next slip to Hanalei. Looked like a neat idea. Oh, what shackle would you use for a jib halyard?.....your comments, Sirs...............

Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA Number ONE ! ! !(and intending to stay that way!)

[Michael Heintz NEFleet Ca]

Captain Stump,

It is my esteemed opinon that 3/4 CHAIN would do well as the jib halyard on Hanalei, this would prevent any halyard failures, as experienced by SOME captains last year..... What say you LEO ?

Michael Heintz
Captain Commanding
Macht Nichts CD 30 MK II
Racing Sloop
CDSOA Number One NE Fleet Captain

[Bill]

Honorable Captains

I would like to second Captain Hientz's excellent idea!!! I would even bet he (Capt Hientz) has some left over (which might be had cheap) after securing his spinnaker to the foredeck.

Bill
Captain Commanding
S/V Rhapsody (the Original)
CD25D #148
Oklahoma Contingent of the NE Fleet, CDSOA, Inc
Galley Wench S/V Evenging Light

Captains Commanding,

Hanalei's new miter cut roller furling jib will arrive from Mack Sails next week. I am considering replacing the jib halyard. The question is, "Has anyone ever attached the jib halyard to the jib using a half-hitch seized to a shackle?" This means no splice! The idea is to allow full haul of the jib without the possibility of the splice jamming in the mast head sheaves. I've seen it done on a racer in the next slip to Hanalei. Looked like a neat idea. Oh, what shackle would you use for a jib halyard?.....your comments, Sirs...............

Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA Number ONE ! ! !(and intending to stay that way!)

cd25d@rhapsodysails.com

[D. Stump, Hanalei]

Captain,

A well placed shot across the Fleet Captains' bow!!!! He needed that........

d. Stump, Hanalei

[Bill]

Thank you sir!

Bill
etc...
etc...

Captain,

A well placed shot across the Fleet Captains' bow!!!! He needed that........

d. Stump, Hanalei

cd25d@rhapsodysails.com

[Catherine Monaghan]

Dave,

If you're not going to retire the old halyard as a spare, just use the old shackle.

My old halyards were so bad I threw them out -- kept both shackles though. They were still good.

Cathy
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay

Captains Commanding,

Hanalei's new miter cut roller furling jib will arrive from Mack Sails next week. I am considering replacing the jib halyard. The question is, "Has anyone ever attached the jib halyard to the jib using a half-hitch seized to a shackle?" This means no splice! The idea is to allow full haul of the jib without the possibility of the splice jamming in the mast head sheaves. I've seen it done on a racer in the next slip to Hanalei. Looked like a neat idea. Oh, what shackle would you use for a jib halyard?.....your comments, Sirs...............

Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA Number ONE ! ! !(and intending to stay that way!)

catherine_monaghanNOSPAM@merck.com

[D. Stump, Hanalei]

Cathy,

Yes, I will probably reuse the old shackle. The real question is the use of a half hitch that is seized to secure the shackle to the halyard, instead of a buried splice? It really made a nice neat looking way to do it....I just wondered if anyone else had done it....

D. Stump, Hanalei

[Catherine Monaghan]

Dave,

I don't know that I'd trust a half-hitch for that application -- seized or not. How about a bowline, the tail of the bowline can be seized as well. I use a bowline for my staysail club topping lift.


Cathy
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay

Cathy,

Yes, I will probably reuse the old shackle. The real question is the use of a half hitch that is seized to secure the shackle to the halyard, instead of a buried splice? It really made a nice neat looking way to do it....I just wondered if anyone else had done it....

D. Stump, Hanalei

catherine_monaghanNOSPAM@merck.com

[Bill]

Capt Stump

Might I suggest a <A href="http://www.realknots.com/knots/hitches. ... ">Buntline Hitch</A>?????

Bill

Captains Commanding,

Hanalei's new miter cut roller furling jib will arrive from Mack Sails next week. I am considering replacing the jib halyard. The question is, "Has anyone ever attached the jib halyard to the jib using a half-hitch seized to a shackle?" This means no splice! The idea is to allow full haul of the jib without the possibility of the splice jamming in the mast head sheaves. I've seen it done on a racer in the next slip to Hanalei. Looked like a neat idea. Oh, what shackle would you use for a jib halyard?.....your comments, Sirs...............

Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA Number ONE ! ! !(and intending to stay that way!)

cd25d@rhapsodysails.com

[Bill Goldsmith]

Dave,

Isn't there a type of eye splice that can be accomplished in low-stretch halyard line that uses a long taper and therefore less likely to bind in a sheave? I suggest this because I am led to believe that knots reduce the breaking strength of line whereas the eye splice gets you pretty close to 100%. (Not that you'd ever need close to 100% on that type of line, but just to be careful)......

Bill Goldsmith
CD27#173
Second Chance
Also flying a Mack miter-cut dacron genny

Captains Commanding,

Hanalei's new miter cut roller furling jib will arrive from Mack Sails next week. I am considering replacing the jib halyard. The question is, "Has anyone ever attached the jib halyard to the jib using a half-hitch seized to a shackle?" This means no splice! The idea is to allow full haul of the jib without the possibility of the splice jamming in the mast head sheaves. I've seen it done on a racer in the next slip to Hanalei. Looked like a neat idea. Oh, what shackle would you use for a jib halyard?.....your comments, Sirs...............

Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA Number ONE ! ! !(and intending to stay that way!)

goldy@bestweb.net

[D. Stump, Hanalei]

Captain Goldsmith,

What do you think of the jib? Are you pleased? Did it fit right? What percent of the fore triangle did you end up with?

D. Stump,
Hanalei

[Pirate Captain,]

Captain Heintz,

Maybe you have some left over chain after you secured your spinaker bag to the life lines on Macht Neichts??????

Can't wait until August.........

Dave Stump
Hanalei
etc., etc., etc.

[Bill]

Captain Goldsmith,

What do you think of the jib? Are you pleased? Did it fit right? What percent of the fore triangle did you end up with?

D. Stump,
Hanalei

cd25d@rhapsodysails.com

[Bill Goldsmith]

Capt Stump,

Nice Sail! I got a 135, pretty much duplicated the sail that came to me with the boat. Can't say enough good about the construction quality, it fit first time, every time, truly handcrafted in the best sense. Sure there are plenty of lofts locally, but after talking with them a few times on the phone, they just seemed right. (And I got their Mack Pack for the main as well, kind of a "Stack Pack lite," with a fraction of the cost).

With the foam luff it performs as well as can be expected while reefed. I have found that it holds a pretty nice shape at most reefing levels, despite the design-specific drawbacks of roller-reefing. I had it made with a Sunbrella brown cover, it looks nice with the brown sail cover and dodger.

I keep meaning to mark the furling line with reefing points that seem to work best in different conditions and points of sail, but I'm always having too much fun out there to remember to make a mark after tweaking!

Hope you enjoy Hanalei's new sail,

Bill Goldsmith
Cd27#173
Second Chance

Captain Goldsmith,

What do you think of the jib? Are you pleased? Did it fit right? What percent of the fore triangle did you end up with?

D. Stump,
Hanalei

goldy@bestweb.net