CD33, rebuilt, going south
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CD33, rebuilt, going south
We bought a CD33, hull number 9, in Florida and trucked it up to New York state. Have spent 5 years completely refurbishing (i.e. new engine -- eegads, we did it all ourselves, new rigging, sails, re-wired both 110 and 12 v systems, et cetera...too numerous to list. New to this site (didn't have time for the Internet due to fixing the boat all the time). If anyone has any questions re 33s, we would welcome them. Also, we plan to leave Lake Champlain in mid-August and head to Key West via the ICW. Any suggestions for the leg from New York City to Cape May? We are only used to sailing on Lake Champlain, so we are a little concerned about this leg. The boat is completely ready to go (even has new ceilings) but would appreciate some "local knowledge" that is definitely out there. P.S. ANYONE INTERESTED IN REPLACING THEIR WHITE COUNTERTOPS THE EXACT MATCH IS FORMICA MATTE FINISH IVORY #460.
ertb@email.msn.com
ertb@email.msn.com
Re: CD33, rebuilt, going south
The february issue of Cruising World covered the trip from New York to Cape May and gives a pretty good account of what to expect. If you are making the trip, Lewes (directly across from Cape May) has a sheltered dock on a canal accessible from inside Cape Henlopen. Cape May has some nasty shoals round about it. I live in Lewes where I keep my cd 28 on a mooring, so give me a call. On the way, there are a number of places to duck in along the New Jersey coast...after you leave Lewes, you can run up Delaware Bay, go through the C&D canal....then south through Chesapeake. Hope to see you.
Paul
*Tradewind*
rfurman@dmv.com
Paul
*Tradewind*
rfurman@dmv.com
Re: CD33, rebuilt, going south
You mentioned in your note that you replaced the ceiling of your CD33. Would you be kind enough to elaborate. Did you use new fiberglass or paint the existing ceiling. If so what did you use? Thanks in advance,
John & Micaela Baker
"Solana"
CD31 hull#31
poblana@juno.com
John & Micaela Baker
"Solana"
CD31 hull#31
Liz Robinson wrote: We bought a CD33, hull number 9, in Florida and trucked it up to New York state. Have spent 5 years completely refurbishing (i.e. new engine -- eegads, we did it all ourselves, new rigging, sails, re-wired both 110 and 12 v systems, et cetera...too numerous to list. New to this site (didn't have time for the Internet due to fixing the boat all the time). If anyone has any questions re 33s, we would welcome them. Also, we plan to leave Lake Champlain in mid-August and head to Key West via the ICW. Any suggestions for the leg from New York City to Cape May? We are only used to sailing on Lake Champlain, so we are a little concerned about this leg. The boat is completely ready to go (even has new ceilings) but would appreciate some "local knowledge" that is definitely out there. P.S. ANYONE INTERESTED IN REPLACING THEIR WHITE COUNTERTOPS THE EXACT MATCH IS FORMICA MATTE FINISH IVORY #460.
poblana@juno.com
Re: CD33, rebuilt, going south
Our CD has sectioned panels of 1/4 inch marine grade plywood with formica glued on to the plywood. These panels are 2' wide and vary in length. Our previous CD, a 28, (1984) had a liner for a ceiling. I assume this is what you have?? That liner, as far as I know, can only be repainted. We replaced the formica on the plywood (and in some places had to replace the plywood due to rot). We also replaced the teak where the portholes are (not as difficult a task as it may seem). We found that Will from Edson (always at THE boat shows), who owned a CD 20-something for years and totally refurbished it, was a good source of info. If you are contemplating redoing your interior, don't be afraid to plunge in. These boats are very well put together and if you do tear it apart you will REALLY know your boat.
Good luck, Liz & Tom
ertb@email.msn.com
Good luck, Liz & Tom
John Micaela Baker wrote: You mentioned in your note that you replaced the ceiling of your CD33. Would you be kind enough to elaborate. Did you use new fiberglass or paint the existing ceiling. If so what did you use? Thanks in advance,
John & Micaela Baker
"Solana"
CD31 hull#31Liz Robinson wrote: We bought a CD33, hull number 9, in Florida and trucked it up to New York state. Have spent 5 years completely refurbishing (i.e. new engine -- eegads, we did it all ourselves, new rigging, sails, re-wired both 110 and 12 v systems, et cetera...too numerous to list. New to this site (didn't have time for the Internet due to fixing the boat all the time). If anyone has any questions re 33s, we would welcome them. Also, we plan to leave Lake Champlain in mid-August and head to Key West via the ICW. Any suggestions for the leg from New York City to Cape May? We are only used to sailing on Lake Champlain, so we are a little concerned about this leg. The boat is completely ready to go (even has new ceilings) but would appreciate some "local knowledge" that is definitely out there. P.S. ANYONE INTERESTED IN REPLACING THEIR WHITE COUNTERTOPS THE EXACT MATCH IS FORMICA MATTE FINISH IVORY #460.
ertb@email.msn.com
Re: CD33, rebuilt, going south
You are right, we have a liner not a formica ceiling. Thanks for the response.
Happy sailing
John and Micaela Baker
"Solana"
CD31 hull#31
poblana@juno.com
Happy sailing
John and Micaela Baker
"Solana"
CD31 hull#31
Liz Robinson wrote: Our CD has sectioned panels of 1/4 inch marine grade plywood with formica glued on to the plywood. These panels are 2' wide and vary in length. Our previous CD, a 28, (1984) had a liner for a ceiling. I assume this is what you have?? That liner, as far as I know, can only be repainted. We replaced the formica on the plywood (and in some places had to replace the plywood due to rot). We also replaced the teak where the portholes are (not as difficult a task as it may seem). We found that Will from Edson (always at THE boat shows), who owned a CD 20-something for years and totally refurbished it, was a good source of info. If you are contemplating redoing your interior, don't be afraid to plunge in. These boats are very well put together and if you do tear it apart you will REALLY know your boat.
Good luck, Liz & Tom
John Micaela Baker wrote: You mentioned in your note that you replaced the ceiling of your CD33. Would you be kind enough to elaborate. Did you use new fiberglass or paint the existing ceiling. If so what did you use? Thanks in advance,
John & Micaela Baker
"Solana"
CD31 hull#31Liz Robinson wrote: We bought a CD33, hull number 9, in Florida and trucked it up to New York state. Have spent 5 years completely refurbishing (i.e. new engine -- eegads, we did it all ourselves, new rigging, sails, re-wired both 110 and 12 v systems, et cetera...too numerous to list. New to this site (didn't have time for the Internet due to fixing the boat all the time). If anyone has any questions re 33s, we would welcome them. Also, we plan to leave Lake Champlain in mid-August and head to Key West via the ICW. Any suggestions for the leg from New York City to Cape May? We are only used to sailing on Lake Champlain, so we are a little concerned about this leg. The boat is completely ready to go (even has new ceilings) but would appreciate some "local knowledge" that is definitely out there. P.S. ANYONE INTERESTED IN REPLACING THEIR WHITE COUNTERTOPS THE EXACT MATCH IS FORMICA MATTE FINISH IVORY #460.
poblana@juno.com
Re: CD33, rebuilt, going south
I keep my boat in Cape May and sail the NJ coast. I sail a CD26. Barnegat and Atlantic Ciry are both good inlets. I'm not sure of anchorages inside barnegat but there are plenty of marinas. Inside Atlantic city are some reasonably anchorages, good holding but strong current. I like to anchor inside tidal creeks, close to the windward side of a bend, so the boat resets with the change in tidal direction by swinging away from the bank. Most of the other inlets have no jetties and you need some local knowledge, although the traffic is usually heavy in Ocean City, so you can follow someone in. Cape May has a large anchorage with adequate holding, but the traffic in the channel can get tiresome. Cape May is worth it however. And as Paul said so is Lewes, although you have to cross the bay to get there. Good luck
nilesl@algorithms.com
nilesl@algorithms.com
Re: CD33, rebuilt, going south
You are right, we have a liner not a formica ceiling. Thanks for the response.
Happy sailing
John and Micaela Baker
"Solana"
CD31 hull#31
poblana@juno.com
Happy sailing
John and Micaela Baker
"Solana"
CD31 hull#31
Liz Robinson wrote: Our CD has sectioned panels of 1/4 inch marine grade plywood with formica glued on to the plywood. These panels are 2' wide and vary in length. Our previous CD, a 28, (1984) had a liner for a ceiling. I assume this is what you have?? That liner, as far as I know, can only be repainted. We replaced the formica on the plywood (and in some places had to replace the plywood due to rot). We also replaced the teak where the portholes are (not as difficult a task as it may seem). We found that Will from Edson (always at THE boat shows), who owned a CD 20-something for years and totally refurbished it, was a good source of info. If you are contemplating redoing your interior, don't be afraid to plunge in. These boats are very well put together and if you do tear it apart you will REALLY know your boat.
Good luck, Liz & Tom
John Micaela Baker wrote: You mentioned in your note that you replaced the ceiling of your CD33. Would you be kind enough to elaborate. Did you use new fiberglass or paint the existing ceiling. If so what did you use? Thanks in advance,
John & Micaela Baker
"Solana"
CD31 hull#31Liz Robinson wrote: We bought a CD33, hull number 9, in Florida and trucked it up to New York state. Have spent 5 years completely refurbishing (i.e. new engine -- eegads, we did it all ourselves, new rigging, sails, re-wired both 110 and 12 v systems, et cetera...too numerous to list. New to this site (didn't have time for the Internet due to fixing the boat all the time). If anyone has any questions re 33s, we would welcome them. Also, we plan to leave Lake Champlain in mid-August and head to Key West via the ICW. Any suggestions for the leg from New York City to Cape May? We are only used to sailing on Lake Champlain, so we are a little concerned about this leg. The boat is completely ready to go (even has new ceilings) but would appreciate some "local knowledge" that is definitely out there. P.S. ANYONE INTERESTED IN REPLACING THEIR WHITE COUNTERTOPS THE EXACT MATCH IS FORMICA MATTE FINISH IVORY #460.
poblana@juno.com
Re: CD33, rebuilt, going south
Hi, Liz: If you're coming down via the intercoastal to Key West, you'll pass thru Miami. At that time, please give us a call. We have a CD-33 hull #78 "BANDOLERA II" and keep it at Crandon Marina in Key Biscayne. This is a wonderful place, and we have transient slips. It is a beautiful marina, and lots of sailors who would love to hear your stories and adventures. Especially, the crew from Bandolera, who would be thrilled to see your refurbished 33, compare and exchange ideas. For your info, my home telef. # (305) 471-0511. If I'm not there, there is an answering machine. So if you call when you're getting close, I'll try to be around for your arrival, if you decide to come to Key Biscayne before continuing south to Key West. When are you starting on your trip? Let us hear from you. Good luck and good sailing. We have great weather already. FYI: the first boat from the Whitbread Round the World race just came into Ft. Lauderdale!
Cheers,
Zeida.
zcecil@ibm.net
Cheers,
Zeida.
Liz Robinson wrote: We bought a CD33, hull number 9, in Florida and trucked it up to New York state. Have spent 5 years completely refurbishing (i.e. new engine -- eegads, we did it all ourselves, new rigging, sails, re-wired both 110 and 12 v systems, et cetera...too numerous to list. New to this site (didn't have time for the Internet due to fixing the boat all the time). If anyone has any questions re 33s, we would welcome them. Also, we plan to leave Lake Champlain in mid-August and head to Key West via the ICW. Any suggestions for the leg from New York City to Cape May? We are only used to sailing on Lake Champlain, so we are a little concerned about this leg. The boat is completely ready to go (even has new ceilings) but would appreciate some "local knowledge" that is definitely out there. P.S. ANYONE INTERESTED IN REPLACING THEIR WHITE COUNTERTOPS THE EXACT MATCH IS FORMICA MATTE FINISH IVORY #460.
zcecil@ibm.net
Re: CD33, rebuilt, going south
Liz,
I have never run any of the inlets on the New Jersey Coast, but I vividly remember a movie entitled Bad Day at Manasquam that we used to show when I tought Seamanship for the Power Squadron. Grim scenes of what a rough inlet with a full tide can do.
My wife and I have run Rockaway Inlet, Fire Island inlet and Jones Inlet on the South Shore of Long Island. I think the situations are quite similar to the Jersey coast. It was not bad doing this in the right weather and with the right tide and with good light. We did run Jones Inlet once in some really rough stuff and it was a constant worry that the channel hadn't moved out from where the bouys were. Once in, I asked Marilyn if she were frightened, she said no, but she was getting tired of hanging on. We did run aground once in, smack dab in the middle of the marked channel, and I mean right in the middle of the markers!
Frankly, I'd plan on running the New Jersey coast in one extended run. Even if you do decide to put in at some point, you should be prepared to make the run because if things turn nasty, that is not the time to fool around in those kinds of unfamiliar waters. Your boat is well prepared to weather anything you are likely to run into, navigation these days with GPS or Loran and a depth finder is really very easy on those coasts with a nice slanting coastel shelf.
Besides, on one run around Long Island, one night, we ran through an area of luminescence. You may see some individual glowing animals in your head at night or on your anchor line, but when they concentrate it is a spectacle, especially when fish swim away from the boat, it's like shooting stars under you. So, it can be really neat out there at night!
PERI was moored for many, many years at the Poughkeepsie Yacht Club in Staatsburg, NY. it's a little less than halfway between Albany and New York City, their hospitality was historically outstanding and you may wish to stop there while coming down the Hudson River.
Good luck, I envy you!
Jon Larson
Cape Dory 30 PERI
San Francisco Bay
jon9@ix.netcom.com
I have never run any of the inlets on the New Jersey Coast, but I vividly remember a movie entitled Bad Day at Manasquam that we used to show when I tought Seamanship for the Power Squadron. Grim scenes of what a rough inlet with a full tide can do.
My wife and I have run Rockaway Inlet, Fire Island inlet and Jones Inlet on the South Shore of Long Island. I think the situations are quite similar to the Jersey coast. It was not bad doing this in the right weather and with the right tide and with good light. We did run Jones Inlet once in some really rough stuff and it was a constant worry that the channel hadn't moved out from where the bouys were. Once in, I asked Marilyn if she were frightened, she said no, but she was getting tired of hanging on. We did run aground once in, smack dab in the middle of the marked channel, and I mean right in the middle of the markers!
Frankly, I'd plan on running the New Jersey coast in one extended run. Even if you do decide to put in at some point, you should be prepared to make the run because if things turn nasty, that is not the time to fool around in those kinds of unfamiliar waters. Your boat is well prepared to weather anything you are likely to run into, navigation these days with GPS or Loran and a depth finder is really very easy on those coasts with a nice slanting coastel shelf.
Besides, on one run around Long Island, one night, we ran through an area of luminescence. You may see some individual glowing animals in your head at night or on your anchor line, but when they concentrate it is a spectacle, especially when fish swim away from the boat, it's like shooting stars under you. So, it can be really neat out there at night!
PERI was moored for many, many years at the Poughkeepsie Yacht Club in Staatsburg, NY. it's a little less than halfway between Albany and New York City, their hospitality was historically outstanding and you may wish to stop there while coming down the Hudson River.
Good luck, I envy you!
Jon Larson
Cape Dory 30 PERI
San Francisco Bay
Liz Robinson wrote: We bought a CD33, hull number 9, in Florida and trucked it up to New York state. Have spent 5 years completely refurbishing (i.e. new engine -- eegads, we did it all ourselves, new rigging, sails, re-wired both 110 and 12 v systems, et cetera...too numerous to list. New to this site (didn't have time for the Internet due to fixing the boat all the time). If anyone has any questions re 33s, we would welcome them. Also, we plan to leave Lake Champlain in mid-August and head to Key West via the ICW. Any suggestions for the leg from New York City to Cape May? We are only used to sailing on Lake Champlain, so we are a little concerned about this leg. The boat is completely ready to go (even has new ceilings) but would appreciate some "local knowledge" that is definitely out there. P.S. ANYONE INTERESTED IN REPLACING THEIR WHITE COUNTERTOPS THE EXACT MATCH IS FORMICA MATTE FINISH IVORY #460.
jon9@ix.netcom.com