Second Compass?
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Second Compass?
The compass on our Ty Senior is mounted on the starboard side making it difficult to see on the windward side on a port tack while at the helm. For general mucking about it's not a deal but when trying to maintain a course it's a pain.
Maybe it's just my mid-fifties eyesight. I'm curious whether anyone else is bothered by this and what solution, if any, was implemented. I considered installing a port bulkhead compass but the power box is on the other side and would interfere.
Bob Herrick
rherrick01@earthlink.net
Maybe it's just my mid-fifties eyesight. I'm curious whether anyone else is bothered by this and what solution, if any, was implemented. I considered installing a port bulkhead compass but the power box is on the other side and would interfere.
Bob Herrick
rherrick01@earthlink.net
Re: Second Compass?
My CD25 had a Genie compass mounted on the port bulkhead when I got her last year. You could not see through the plastic and the oil was long gone. I had noticed a little shelf that had obviously been put there by someone for some reason on the back of the bottom most companionway board. It took me a while to realize that the person must have mounted a second compass there. The little screw holes on the shelf and the fact that the bulkhead compass was useless led me to this conclusion. So I put a surface mount compass on the little shelf and turn the companionway door around so that it is facing the cockpit when I am sailing. It is right in the middle of the cockpit and visible from both sides, no problem. When I'm done I turn the board back around and lock up. The other part here is that I think mounting the compass too close to the circuit panel may in fact interfere. I think that is why the previous owner never cared for or replaced the bulkhead compass. My only problem now is to figure out what to do with the hole in my bulkhead. Good luck
Will Wheatley
Suzi Q
CD25
willwheatley@starpower.net
Will Wheatley
Suzi Q
CD25
Bob Herrick wrote: The compass on our Ty Senior is mounted on the starboard side making it difficult to see on the windward side on a port tack while at the helm. For general mucking about it's not a deal but when trying to maintain a course it's a pain.
Maybe it's just my mid-fifties eyesight. I'm curious whether anyone else is bothered by this and what solution, if any, was implemented. I considered installing a port bulkhead compass but the power box is on the other side and would interfere.
Bob Herrick
willwheatley@starpower.net
Re: Second Compass?
Why not invest in a decent GPS? Has a great compass built in-and easy to store when not in use!
Ken Cave
Dragon Tale
bcave@whidbey.net
Ken Cave
Dragon Tale
bcave@whidbey.net
Re: Second Compass?
A GPS is certianly handy,no doubt. This could take the place of a compass, but Bob will still need to mount it somewhere. BTW don't leave the old compass at home. They work without batteries and generally don't fall overboard.
Will Wheatley
Suzi Q
CD25
willwheatley@starpower.net
Will Wheatley
Suzi Q
CD25
Ken Cave wrote: Why not invest in a decent GPS? Has a great compass built in-and easy to store when not in use!
Ken Cave
Dragon Tale
willwheatley@starpower.net
GPS vs Compass?
>>Why not invest in a decent GPS? Has a great compass built in...<<
You can navigate yourself to death with electronics. The "no batteries required" approach will get you there and back safely. You can do really well with a compass, chart and a hunk of lead on a long line.
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
cdory28@aol.com
You can navigate yourself to death with electronics. The "no batteries required" approach will get you there and back safely. You can do really well with a compass, chart and a hunk of lead on a long line.
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
cdory28@aol.com
Re: Second Compass?
I ran into a guy a few years ago on lake Erie who had made a little half hexagon pedestal from teak, and mounted it in the center of the bulkhead of the bridge deck. It ran up from the cockpit sole high enough so that the top of the compass was just below the bridge deck. Looked sharp and was very well located. This was on a CD25, but I think it could work on any of the smaller CDs.
Bruce Bett
Sostenuto
CD25 #496
bettb@macomb.cc.mi.us
Bruce Bett
Sostenuto
CD25 #496
Bob Herrick wrote: The compass on our Ty Senior is mounted on the starboard side making it difficult to see on the windward side on a port tack while at the helm. For general mucking about it's not a deal but when trying to maintain a course it's a pain.
Maybe it's just my mid-fifties eyesight. I'm curious whether anyone else is bothered by this and what solution, if any, was implemented. I considered installing a port bulkhead compass but the power box is on the other side and would interfere.
Bob Herrick
bettb@macomb.cc.mi.us
Re: GPS vs Compass?
You have not sailed in the Northwest! I agree with you that a compass is the most important tool on board-but two? In the San Juans there are places that will drive your compass crazy-and in the fog, this can be a problem!
Ken Cave
Drgon Tale
bcave@whidbey.net
Ken Cave
Drgon Tale
bcave@whidbey.net
Re: GPS vs Compass?
>>In the San Juans there are places that will drive your compass crazy-and in the fog, this can be a problem!<<
Yes, for sure. In the northeast, and most other places in the world, compasses point the way they are supposed to. With no batteries and little in the way of moving parts, they are very reliable.
A hand bearing compass is a nice addition if you want to carry more than one compass.
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
cdory28@aol.com
Yes, for sure. In the northeast, and most other places in the world, compasses point the way they are supposed to. With no batteries and little in the way of moving parts, they are very reliable.
A hand bearing compass is a nice addition if you want to carry more than one compass.
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
cdory28@aol.com
Re: GPS vs Compass?
This past summer, we were east of Grand Marais, Minn. on Lake Superior, motoring along in fog and cold, following radar, GPS and compass, as well as the depth contour, making passage to Wauswagoning Bay at the Canadian border. Well, I noticed that we were slowly turning to port over a relatively short period..15 minutes. WIthin a half hour, we had a 60 degree shift in Norths position. Checking the chart..they note that the rock we were sailing over was highly magnetic, and will box the compass if you are in the center of the magnetic area. Fortunately, the compass returns to accurate within another 3 miles or so.
The initial discovery of that first 10deg. off course as indicated on the affected compass kind of woke me up..heh. I started to get that tight stomach muscles reaction for a few seconds, as my mind went through the possiblities..as it got worse right in front of my eyes. Interesting place to sail.
Cheers,
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 ~~Lake Superior~~
demers@sgi.com
The initial discovery of that first 10deg. off course as indicated on the affected compass kind of woke me up..heh. I started to get that tight stomach muscles reaction for a few seconds, as my mind went through the possiblities..as it got worse right in front of my eyes. Interesting place to sail.
Cheers,
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 ~~Lake Superior~~
Neil Gordon wrote: >>In the San Juans there are places that will drive your compass crazy-and in the fog, this can be a problem!<<
Yes, for sure. In the northeast, and most other places in the world, compasses point the way they are supposed to. With no batteries and little in the way of moving parts, they are very reliable.
A hand bearing compass is a nice addition if you want to carry more than one compass.
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
demers@sgi.com