I have been looking at an Intrepid 9 Meter and read some older posts in which it was indicated that Cape Dory had bought the hulls from Grampian and finished them. I researched that issue including contacting Robinhood Marine and was told the following:
The information that you have received is not quite correct. The 9 Meter was developed by Cape Dory from the molds of the Intrepid 28. They simply made her longer (nicer angle to the stern) and changed the cabin and other features. Cape Dory Bought the molds for the Grampian 28 to develop the Intrepid 28, but all fabrication was done at the Cape Dory plant. (Grampian was out of business by that time) The 9 Meter is a wonderful boat and is fast and strong.
Kindest regards,
Dave Perry
I thought this information might be of interest to others on this great board.
I would appreciate any other information others might have about this model.
David
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Intrepid 9 meter info
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Michael Abramson
Re: Intrepid 9 meter info
David,
Thanks for adding this bit of information, which confirms what I have
been told in the past. I am the proud owner of a 9M also, and in
talking to other CD owners, there seems to be general misinformation
about the background and pedigree of Intrepids. One person recently
was of the opinion that Cape Dory bought a warehouse full of Grampian
hulls when they were going under, and then slapped the Intrepids together to make a quick buck. I knew otherwise, since the Intrepids
had all Shaeffer rigging, Spartan seacocks, and in my opinion a more
deluxe interior than the corresponding CD30. I also talked to Dave Perry a few years back at the Annapolis show and his comment was that
the Intrepid series was "every bit as well made as a regular Cape
Dory". I hope you are soon a member of the Intrepid fleet.
Regards,
Michael Abramson
Intrepid 9M #37 Peace
Yorktown, VA
mabramson@widomaker.com
Thanks for adding this bit of information, which confirms what I have
been told in the past. I am the proud owner of a 9M also, and in
talking to other CD owners, there seems to be general misinformation
about the background and pedigree of Intrepids. One person recently
was of the opinion that Cape Dory bought a warehouse full of Grampian
hulls when they were going under, and then slapped the Intrepids together to make a quick buck. I knew otherwise, since the Intrepids
had all Shaeffer rigging, Spartan seacocks, and in my opinion a more
deluxe interior than the corresponding CD30. I also talked to Dave Perry a few years back at the Annapolis show and his comment was that
the Intrepid series was "every bit as well made as a regular Cape
Dory". I hope you are soon a member of the Intrepid fleet.
Regards,
Michael Abramson
Intrepid 9M #37 Peace
Yorktown, VA
David B wrote: I have been looking at an Intrepid 9 Meter and read some older posts in which it was indicated that Cape Dory had bought the hulls from Grampian and finished them. I researched that issue including contacting Robinhood Marine and was told the following:
The information that you have received is not quite correct. The 9 Meter was developed by Cape Dory from the molds of the Intrepid 28. They simply made her longer (nicer angle to the stern) and changed the cabin and other features. Cape Dory Bought the molds for the Grampian 28 to develop the Intrepid 28, but all fabrication was done at the Cape Dory plant. (Grampian was out of business by that time) The 9 Meter is a wonderful boat and is fast and strong.
Kindest regards,
Dave Perry
I thought this information might be of interest to others on this great board.
I would appreciate any other information others might have about this model.
David
mabramson@widomaker.com
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John R.
Re: Intrepid 9 meter info
I for one would like to read a lot more about the Intrepids. It is very difficult to find information on them. Finding photos of them is also difficult. We have a CD30 and I agree that the Intrepid has a nicer interior. I am interested in the underbody of the Intrepids and what their performance is like. I've never sailed one but would like to hear comments from anyone who has had the opportunity to sail an Intrepid and a CD. I would think the Intrepid to be faster by maybe a knot or so. Does anyone know? How do they handle? Any other input would be great.......
Michael Abramson wrote: David,
Thanks for adding this bit of information, which confirms what I have
been told in the past. I am the proud owner of a 9M also, and in
talking to other CD owners, there seems to be general misinformation
about the background and pedigree of Intrepids. One person recently
was of the opinion that Cape Dory bought a warehouse full of Grampian
hulls when they were going under, and then slapped the Intrepids together to make a quick buck. I knew otherwise, since the Intrepids
had all Shaeffer rigging, Spartan seacocks, and in my opinion a more
deluxe interior than the corresponding CD30. I also talked to Dave Perry a few years back at the Annapolis show and his comment was that
the Intrepid series was "every bit as well made as a regular Cape
Dory". I hope you are soon a member of the Intrepid fleet.
Regards,
Michael Abramson
Intrepid 9M #37 Peace
Yorktown, VA
David B wrote: I have been looking at an Intrepid 9 Meter and read some older posts in which it was indicated that Cape Dory had bought the hulls from Grampian and finished them. I researched that issue including contacting Robinhood Marine and was told the following:
The information that you have received is not quite correct. The 9 Meter was developed by Cape Dory from the molds of the Intrepid 28. They simply made her longer (nicer angle to the stern) and changed the cabin and other features. Cape Dory Bought the molds for the Grampian 28 to develop the Intrepid 28, but all fabrication was done at the Cape Dory plant. (Grampian was out of business by that time) The 9 Meter is a wonderful boat and is fast and strong.
Kindest regards,
Dave Perry
I thought this information might be of interest to others on this great board.
I would appreciate any other information others might have about this model.
David
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David B
Re: Intrepid 9 meter info
I have sailed a Typhoon weekender and a 28 cutter single handed and I am hoping to do the same with the 9 meter. I can tell you that there is a 1978 Intrepid 35 for sale through Robinhood Marine and there is a picture of her at a mooring...very pretty boat. The price surprised me at 70,000.00 and I understand there were only 8 of them built.John R. wrote: I for one would like to read a lot more about the Intrepids. It is very difficult to find information on them. Finding photos of them is also difficult. We have a CD30 and I agree that the Intrepid has a nicer interior. I am interested in the underbody of the Intrepids and what their performance is like. I've never sailed one but would like to hear comments from anyone who has had the opportunity to sail an Intrepid and a CD. I would think the Intrepid to be faster by maybe a knot or so. Does anyone know? How do they handle? Any other input would be great.......
If and when I get a chance to sail the 9 meter I will post my impression.
David
John R. wrote:Michael Abramson wrote: Davi
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Roger
Re: Intrepid 9 meter info
Ditto on more I9M info; glad to see recent specs added at this site (Bravo Zulu).
My 1979 Intrepid 9M is sailed in RI and my first hand comparison to other CD's is limited to a CD26d. An intrepid is really more performance oriented than the traditional CDs_and has a better interior layout. If sailing (as in making her go) is your motivation, it's a great CD choice. When talking my Chief Domestic Officer into buying the boat, I explained it this way: A CD is like a volvo station wagon - safe, dependable, well built, holds value, a great family boat. The intrepid is their attempt at a racer -- its still a volvo - safe, dependable, well built... But, its got a turbo to add some spice and make it more interesting.
Bottom shape, such as the skeg rudder, is typical of CCA type boats. I find her lines sweeter than IOR boats and construction much more solid than today's light weight R/C boats. The sail area is moderate -- and easy to handle. I would classify this as a Cruiser/Race (vs. Racer/Cruiser). PErformance compared to a CD28 or 30 is better due to less wetted surface and bottom shape. There are certainly faster boats, but Intrepids are real sleepers and good values.
Windward performance -- with a new set of sails this year -- is good enough to keep a true racer interested. I'm regularly doing high 4's to low 5 kts on the speed log in 12-15 kts air (max to date is 5.8 in 20+kts). Considering this is with a 135% roller fuler, without a crew to adjust things - I'm pleased
Pointing is good enough and reaching is lots of fun!
Benchmarks to other boats on the bay (usually more water length) shows we struggle to stay up (point) with speed, but can be very dangerous on the down wind runs (just wing-wing, not setup for a shoot). Early this summer, running under main alone (with wife and kids) we cruised for 2 hrs. at 6-7.5 kts on a broad reach in ~20kts and 3 ft chop.
I'd don't think its tender, suspect its better than a regular CD. The top sides are high enough to keep us dry under all the weather I want to be out in with the family. The visibility is good and cockpit is large and comfy. The shortcomings is the original boat has only two halyards (no spin option) at the mast. Also, the deck step/scupper at the aft end of the cabin top is not my idea of a good design. Its a potential source of maintenance.
All in all, its a great little boat that holds up well to many other higher cost, modern boats. A great value.
My 1979 Intrepid 9M is sailed in RI and my first hand comparison to other CD's is limited to a CD26d. An intrepid is really more performance oriented than the traditional CDs_and has a better interior layout. If sailing (as in making her go) is your motivation, it's a great CD choice. When talking my Chief Domestic Officer into buying the boat, I explained it this way: A CD is like a volvo station wagon - safe, dependable, well built, holds value, a great family boat. The intrepid is their attempt at a racer -- its still a volvo - safe, dependable, well built... But, its got a turbo to add some spice and make it more interesting.
Bottom shape, such as the skeg rudder, is typical of CCA type boats. I find her lines sweeter than IOR boats and construction much more solid than today's light weight R/C boats. The sail area is moderate -- and easy to handle. I would classify this as a Cruiser/Race (vs. Racer/Cruiser). PErformance compared to a CD28 or 30 is better due to less wetted surface and bottom shape. There are certainly faster boats, but Intrepids are real sleepers and good values.
Windward performance -- with a new set of sails this year -- is good enough to keep a true racer interested. I'm regularly doing high 4's to low 5 kts on the speed log in 12-15 kts air (max to date is 5.8 in 20+kts). Considering this is with a 135% roller fuler, without a crew to adjust things - I'm pleased
Pointing is good enough and reaching is lots of fun! Benchmarks to other boats on the bay (usually more water length) shows we struggle to stay up (point) with speed, but can be very dangerous on the down wind runs (just wing-wing, not setup for a shoot). Early this summer, running under main alone (with wife and kids) we cruised for 2 hrs. at 6-7.5 kts on a broad reach in ~20kts and 3 ft chop.
I'd don't think its tender, suspect its better than a regular CD. The top sides are high enough to keep us dry under all the weather I want to be out in with the family. The visibility is good and cockpit is large and comfy. The shortcomings is the original boat has only two halyards (no spin option) at the mast. Also, the deck step/scupper at the aft end of the cabin top is not my idea of a good design. Its a potential source of maintenance.
All in all, its a great little boat that holds up well to many other higher cost, modern boats. A great value.
John R. wrote: I for one would like to read a lot more about the Intrepids. It is very difficult to find information on them. Finding photos of them is also difficult. We have a CD30 and I agree that the Intrepid has a nicer interior. I am interested in the underbody of the Intrepids and what their performance is like. I've never sailed one but would like to hear comments from anyone who has had the opportunity to sail an Intrepid and a CD. I would think the Intrepid to be faster by maybe a knot or so. Does anyone know? How do they handle? Any other input would be great.......
Michael Abramson wrote: David,
Thanks for adding this bit of information, which confirms what I have
been told in the past. I am the proud owner of a 9M also, and in
talking to other CD owners, there seems to be general misinformation
about the background and pedigree of Intrepids. One person recently
was of the opinion that Cape Dory bought a warehouse full of Grampian
hulls when they were going under, and then slapped the Intrepids together to make a quick buck. I knew otherwise, since the Intrepids
had all Shaeffer rigging, Spartan seacocks, and in my opinion a more
deluxe interior than the corresponding CD30. I also talked to Dave Perry a few years back at the Annapolis show and his comment was that
the Intrepid series was "every bit as well made as a regular Cape
Dory". I hope you are soon a member of the Intrepid fleet.
Regards,
Michael Abramson
Intrepid 9M #37 Peace
Yorktown, VA
Michael Abramson wrote:David B wrote: I have been looking at an Intrepid 9 Meter and read some older posts in which it was indicated that Cape Dory had bought the hulls from Grampian and finished them. I researched that issue including contacting Robinhood Marine and was told the following:
The information that you have received is not quite correct. The 9 Meter was developed by Cape Dory from the molds of the Intrepid 28. They simply made her longer (nicer angle to the stern) and changed the cabin and other features. Cape Dory Bought the molds for the Grampian 28 to develop the Intrepid 28, but all fabrication was done at the Cape Dory plant. (Grampian was out of business by that time) The 9 Meter is a wonderful boat and is fast and strong.
Kindest regards,
Dave Perry
I thought this information might be of interest to others on this great board.
I would appreciate any other information others might have about this model.
David