Slip fees-LI South Shore

[Mike Wainfeld]

I bought my Typhoon in July and the deal included the slip for the rest of that season. I've been very comfortable there for the past 3 years. But this year the marina has been sold and the new owner is raising the rates-I paid $750 last year, this year he wants 1250!. And he wants to move me from my protected spot in the corner. The marina is in Bayshore. Just to get some idea,what are other folks paying for a slip? Thanks.
Mike Wainfeld
CD Typhoon "Regalo"




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[Warren Kaplan]

I bought my Typhoon in July and the deal included the slip for the rest of that season. I've been very comfortable there for the past 3 years. But this year the marina has been sold and the new owner is raising the rates-I paid $750 last year, this year he wants 1250!. And he wants to move me from my protected spot in the corner. The marina is in Bayshore. Just to get some idea,what are other folks paying for a slip? Thanks.
Mike Wainfeld
CD Typhoon "Regalo"

Mike,
I, too, have a slip in Bayshore at Maple Avenue Marina. Where are you?
I have a CD27 and I was raised from about $1800 to $1975. Of course that includes seasonal parking at the marina which is usally mucho expensive because of the Fire Island summer parking trade. I think the season is from May to November. I suppose if the economy tanks this year and alot of boats get sold, next year prices may not rise or may even go the other way. My marina set its price and demanded deposits before the stock market really tanked.
Warren

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[Mike Wainfeld]

Warren-I'm down the block from LI Yacht Sales. I suppose that per foot I'm still doing OK.



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[B. Andrews]

Mike: We rented a slip behind a private home near Babylon for about ten years. The price was very reasonable(never raised), the season was extra long and the people were great. So this is one way to by-pass the high slip fees charged by the marinas. We found the slip by placing a classified ad in the Beacon. By the way, I hope you realize how fortunate you are to sail on the Great South Bay, I sure miss it. Good luck. BAA



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[Isaac]

How is sailing on the south shore? I assumed that it was too shallow for good cruising. I have a CD 25, is the south shore a nice cruising area?

[Warren Kaplan]

How is sailing on the south shore? I assumed that it was too shallow for good cruising. I have a CD 25, is the south shore a nice cruising area?

Isaac,
The big advantage of sailing the south shore in Great South Bay is that in the summer you can always depend on a nice seabreeze of about 12-17 knots to come up in the afternoon. Great for sailing. I spent many years sailing western Long Island Sound and especially when Bermuda Highs were around you could sit out on the Sound for hours with the telltales hanging straight down in a dead calm. Very frustrating. So I went to GSB. The north end of the Bay from Bayshore east past Patchogue is a nice sail. The water is deep enough and the buoyage is pretty good. You just can't sail anywhere but if you look at the charts there's plenty of sailing room. The prevailing seabreeze ranges from SW to S to SE and since the bay runs its length east to west the sailing angles are pretty good. I usually don't venture down to Fire Island for many reasons. On the weekend in the summer the area is a zoo no matter what type of boat you have and the boaters are nuts. Secondly, you have to stay in marked channels because there are alot of shoals down there and with all the wakes thrown up by the speed boats, you just can't sail. Further east it may be better but between Saltaire and Ocean Beach its crazy. Of course the big draw back (in my humble opinion) of GSB is that after a few sails, it gets boring. Unfortunately you can't make it to the Hamptons on the inside without taking your mast down for some bridges. You can go to Fire Island and visit there. That's okay but as I said before is no fun "sailing" around Fire Island. For making trips and visiting interesting places the north shore wins hands down. I have always said if they could put the south shore seabreeze up on the north shore it would be one of the best sailing areas in the country. You could start anywhere on Long Island Sound and head east to all the ports on the Connecticut and Long Island shores. Then out to Newport or Block Island Rhode Island and even further east to Martha's Vineyard or Nantucket and Cape Cod. Can't do that from the south shore unless you want to go out thru Fire Island Inlet into the ocean and either come back in around Shinnecock or go around Montauk Point. You could go thru Shinnecock canal to Peconic Bay but again I think you'll have to unstep your mast. Sorry this is so long but I get tempted to go back north until I remember the dead calms.
Warren Kaplan
S/V Sine Qua Non
CD27 #166 (1980)



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[B. Andrews]

Isaac: As stated in Warren's reply, sailors on the south shore enjoy a dependable breeze, but must contend with the powerboat traffic. This is less of a problem out in the wide open parts of the bay. In addition, the powerboaters tend to stay home on weekdays, days that are overcast or below 65 degrees, and before Memorial day and after Labor day. In Sept. '99 we had a week of almost solitary sailing.We were almost glad to see the occaisional powerboat. BAA



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[Warren Kaplan]

Isaac: As stated in Warren's reply, sailors on the south shore enjoy a dependable breeze, but must contend with the powerboat traffic. This is less of a problem out in the wide open parts of the bay. In addition, the powerboaters tend to stay home on weekdays, days that are overcast or below 65 degrees, and before Memorial day and after Labor day. In Sept. '99 we had a week of almost solitary sailing.We were almost glad to see the occaisional powerboat. BAA

That's right. As I said, I stay up along the north side of the bay. Very little traffic there even on "busy" days. Most of the crazies head for the south part of the bay down around Fire Island.



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[Isaac]

Warren,
Thanks for the long reply. What a great message board this is. I am renting a house with my family in Stonington CT for the month of July, the house has its own little beach and moring. That should be great for cruising -- fisher's island and block as well. In August I got to decide what to do. I could keep her there, but thats kind of far from manhattan where I live. I may sail to the south shore and keep it over there in August and September. Could be fun to cruise over to Fire Island. The sail from Stonington to south shore would be interesting, it would involved unprotected ocean sailing, not sure how i feel about that. The shallow water in the the bay also makes me a little nervous, hate the idea of running aground. Happened once to me in Sandy Hook NJ, NOT a fun time. I could also keep the boat in gardner's bay, sag harbor etc. well we'll see who's got a house and where:).

isaac