new outboard for CD25?

[steven marcotte]

Hey Folks-
Though I've done a few searches of the archives (almost enough info.), I need to ask a common question...
What are the "best" suggestions (and why)for a new outboard for a '78 CD25? The yard that tunes my old Johnson 9.9 said I need $425 worth of repairs...
So...


Thanks Again!
Steve
M.O.W.



smm64@email.msn.com

[Ken]

Hey Folks-
Though I've done a few searches of the archives (almost enough info.), I need to ask a common question...
What are the "best" suggestions (and why)for a new outboard for a '78 CD25? The yard that tunes my old Johnson 9.9 said I need $425 worth of repairs...
So...


Thanks Again!
Steve
M.O.W.

I would not consider anything but a 4 stroke. 9.9 yamaha fits in very tight but it does fit and does move the boat nicely. I go in and out of inlets in the Atlantic and it can really rip. No probem with the 9.9. Would suggest that you also install controls that you can mount in the cockpit; makes things much easier during docking or close manuvering.

If you on a lake or other places were tide and current are not an issue I am sure you can get by with less; but I would still encourgage you to select a 4 stroke.

Good luck.

Ken



kmerson@avaloninternet.net

[Mike Buppert]

I concur with you on the 4 stroke issue and the cockpit mounted controls. If you operate in protected waters 6HP may be enough and the moter is more easily handled. Will the 9.9 Yamaha fit in the well without modifying the mounting board and allow the well cover to close? I am not concerned about the breathing problem underway just the physical fit. We have a Mariner 8 on "Lucille" and the hatch can't be closed, the powerhead sits up too high. I have not decided if I am going to try to lower the engine mount or build a coaming to raise the hatch.

Mike Buppert
CD25 Lucille
Toms River Yacht Club
Barnegat Bay, NJ

Hey Folks-
Though I've done a few searches of the archives (almost enough info.), I need to ask a common question...
What are the "best" suggestions (and why)for a new outboard for a '78 CD25? The yard that tunes my old Johnson 9.9 said I need $425 worth of repairs...
So...


Thanks Again!
Steve
M.O.W.

I would not consider anything but a 4 stroke. 9.9 yamaha fits in very tight but it does fit and does move the boat nicely. I go in and out of inlets in the Atlantic and it can really rip. No probem with the 9.9. Would suggest that you also install controls that you can mount in the cockpit; makes things much easier during docking or close manuvering.

If you on a lake or other places were tide and current are not an issue I am sure you can get by with less; but I would still encourgage you to select a 4 stroke.

Good luck.

Ken

buppert@csionline.net

[David Brownlee]

Our first "Windrush" was a CD25, and we replaced her aged Mercury 9.9 with a Johnson 6 hp that pushed the boat along at hull speed when it was calm and enabled us to punch our way to windward into shelter under some pretty harrowing conditions. The motor was small enough to be turned in the well, giving real steering in reverse. We bought the then-available hose kit to send the exhaust under water, allowing us to keep the lid closed.

David Brownlee
CD31 #1 Windrush
Havre de Grace, MD



dbrownle@sas.upenn.edu

[Tom]

Steven
We have a 76 CD25 with a sick OMC 9.9. I've been looking for an outboard this past winter. I like the idea of a clean 4 stroke but I'm afraid of the weight. Honda 8 hp, Yamaha 8 or 9.9 are 90 - 100+ pounds. If you need to service the engine at the mooring it takes two people to lift it out of the well with the current 2 stroke 9.9. I'm not going to buy something that weighs more. Tohatsu makes the 6hp 4 stroke for Mercury and Nissan. It looks like it would fit but its alittle tall. The hatch won't close without dropping the engine bracket down alittle. I have read people pushing the boat with the 5hp Honda but I'm not sure. Buzzards Bay sailing can be rough. I'm leaning towards the 8 or 9.8 2 stroke Tohatsu around 60 lbs, w/ electric start, good pricing & should fit with no problem. Its a 2 stroke...everything is a tradeoff. Let me know what you buy.

regards
Tom




tomb5050@aol.com

[Tom]

Steven
We have a 76 CD25 with a sick OMC 9.9. I've been looking for an outboard this past winter. I like the idea of a clean 4 stroke but I'm afraid of the weight. Honda 8 hp, Yamaha 8 or 9.9 are 90 - 100+ pounds. If you need to service the engine at the mooring it takes two people to lift it out of the well with the current 2 stroke 9.9. I'm not going to buy something that weighs more. Tohatsu makes the 6hp 4 stroke for Mercury and Nissan. It looks like it would fit but its alittle tall. The hatch won't close without dropping the engine bracket down alittle. I have read people pushing the boat with the 5hp Honda but I'm not sure. Buzzards Bay sailing can be rough. I'm leaning towards the 8 or 9.8 2 stroke Tohatsu around 60 lbs, w/ electric start, good pricing & should fit with no problem. Its a 2 stroke...everything is a tradeoff. Let me know what you buy.

regards
Tom




tomb5050@aol.com

[Jim]

My CD 25 came with a brand new Nissan 8 HP 2 cycle with electric start. It fits beautifully into the lazarette. It also exhausts through the propeller. So running with a closed hatch is no problem. I too would have preferred a 4 cycle as my last boat had a 2 hp Honda 4 cycle that runs like a champ! I will wait until a 4 cycle 8-9.9 is available in the 55-65 lb range. Until then the new 2 cycle Nissan will do the job well.



jmyers@styluscentral.com

[Jon]

Nissan has a new one. It is a 6hp 4cycle that weighs 55 pound and exhausts through the prop. There is an optional 5 amp charger. Mercury makes a very similar engine with a 6 amp charger. I don't know if sail props are available for the Nissan or the Merc though.

The link below will take you there.

Jon
s/v Sovereign



[img]http://www.nissanmarine.com/products/6_4_specs.html[/img]

[Jon]

Maybe I'll link it properly this time!

Jon

[Kurt]

If I were repowering my CD26 I'd look real close at the new Yamaha 8hp...it offers 2 cylinder smoothness and electric start...you won't find these important features in the 6 or 5hp 4 strokes. I believe it weighs around 80lbs.



kjlgpw@aol.com

[Isaac]

I purchased a 15HP mercury 2 stroke engine. I sail in areas with strong currents, so the extra power is essential for me.

I put a couple gravel bags in the bow for ballast because the engine is heavy. Im very happy with it. And if you want to be able to cruise, I suggest 15HP, you can go anywhere with or without wind.

[Mike Buppert]

Isaac,
Can you close the motor well hatch with the 15HP engine in there? I have a Mariner 8HP and I think they are physically identical, and I can't close the hatch. Has your mounting board been modified?

Mike Buppert
CD 25 "Lucille"
Toms River Yacht Club
Barnegat Bay, NJ

I purchased a 15HP mercury 2 stroke engine. I sail in areas with strong currents, so the extra power is essential for me.

I put a couple gravel bags in the bow for ballast because the engine is heavy. Im very happy with it. And if you want to be able to cruise, I suggest 15HP, you can go anywhere with or without wind.

buppert@csionline.net

[Isaac]

Mike,

Yes i can close the hatch, though it si a very tight fit. The engine is angled slightly back like so , and of course you got to push the throttle all the way back to close the hatch. By the way, if the wind is coming from my stern, i need to leave hatch open, as it is hard to get air down there; that true for you too? I guess the only draw back is you cannot steer from the engine directly, must use tiller, because of limited space.