Spreader Eyestraps

[Bob Marsh]

I am having my mast down to install a Halyard Organizer under the step and want to add flag halyards at that time. My spreaders have eyestraps mounted about 2/3 of the way out but they are on the top of the spreader tube. Is this correct? or are the spreaders inverted. If it is correct, do they have another use?
Maybe I should just run the flag halyard around the tube thru the eyestrap. Any Ideas would be appreciated.

Bob Marsh
CD27#51 Aquanell
Dunedin,FL



bbbob@gte.net

[David Brownlee]

Our CD 27 had the eyestraps on the bottom of the spreaders. We put a little block on each for flag halyards.

David



dbrownle@sas.upenn.edu

[Chris Cram]

Those spreaders are upside down. On my CD 30C I have an eyestrap on each spreader for flag halyards. On my CD 25 D there was one on the starboard side.
Chris Cram



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[James Kimbrel]

What kind and who makes the Organizer are you using. I want to do the same thing. When M&E Marine was in business they had an attractive deck organizer but the only other source that I am aware of is Dwyer. I have round tube spreaders and have eyestraps on the bottom. I can see how they might get turned around.



jameskimbrel@hotmail.com

[James Kimbrel]

My spreaders have the eyestrap on the bottom. What kind and where can I find an organizer?



jameskimbrel@hotmail.com

[Bill]

What size of boat? I have a organizer plate that I got from M&E that fits my 25D. I think I have decided not to install it. After giving it some thought I might let you have it for cost + shipping.

FWIW

Bill

What kind and where can I find an organizer?

cd25d@rhapsodysails.com

[Catherine Monaghan]

Bob,

Don't forget that the flag halyard should be installed on the starboard spreader. Fly your radar reflector from the port spreader.

Check out the <a href="http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/f_frames.html">Power Squadron's website</a> for more info on flag etiquette.


catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Raritan Bay
Rahway, NJ

I am having my mast down to install a Halyard Organizer under the step and want to add flag halyards at that time. My spreaders have eyestraps mounted about 2/3 of the way out but they are on the top of the spreader tube. Is this correct? or are the spreaders inverted. If it is correct, do they have another use?
Maybe I should just run the flag halyard around the tube thru the eyestrap. Any Ideas would be appreciated.

Bob Marsh
CD27#51 Aquanell
Dunedin,FL

catherine_monaghan@merck.com

[Bob Marsh]

Thanks for the responses, I'll turn them over.

The Halyard organizer is from JSI@Sailnet in StPete. Talk to Tyler Carder in the Spar Shop Ph 800-234-3220. Mine is their part # DWI D232
and is stampd Dwyer. It has attachment holes on all 4 sides and Will fit nicely under the step of my CD27. If you would like some pictures, let me know.

I am having my mast down to install a Halyard Organizer under the step and want to add flag halyards at that time. My spreaders have eyestraps mounted about 2/3 of the way out but they are on the top of the spreader tube. Is this correct? or are the spreaders inverted. If it is correct, do they have another use?
Maybe I should just run the flag halyard around the tube thru the eyestrap. Any Ideas would be appreciated.

Bob Marsh
CD27#51 Aquanell
Dunedin,FL

bbbob@gte.net

[Chip]

Catherine and all -

Your message made me realize I may have goofed. I had been told that, lacking a stern mount, it was acceptable to fly Old Glory from a starboard flag halyard. I do this only when aboard.

Your link, quoting Chapman's, seems to indicate that sailboats may ONLY fly Old Glory from a the stern.

Does anyone have insight as to whether its OK to fly Old Glory from a starboard halyard?

Help!

Thanks.

Chip
chipgavin@alum.colby.edu

Bob,

Don't forget that the flag halyard should be installed on the starboard spreader. Fly your radar reflector from the port spreader.

Check out the <a href="http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/f_frames.html">Power Squadron's website</a> for more info on flag etiquette.


catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Raritan Bay
Rahway, NJ

I am having my mast down to install a Halyard Organizer under the step and want to add flag halyards at that time. My spreaders have eyestraps mounted about 2/3 of the way out but they are on the top of the spreader tube. Is this correct? or are the spreaders inverted. If it is correct, do they have another use?
Maybe I should just run the flag halyard around the tube thru the eyestrap. Any Ideas would be appreciated.

Bob Marsh
CD27#51 Aquanell
Dunedin,FL

chipgavin@alum.colby.edu

[sloopjohnl]

would the backstay be considered the stern also? see a lotta people with that setup.

Catherine and all -

Your message made me realize I may have goofed. I had been told that, lacking a stern mount, it was acceptable to fly Old Glory from a starboard flag halyard. I do this only when aboard.

Your link, quoting Chapman's, seems to indicate that sailboats may ONLY fly Old Glory from a the stern.

Does anyone have insight as to whether its OK to fly Old Glory from a starboard halyard?

Help!

Thanks.

Chip
chipgavin@alum.colby.edu

Bob,

Don't forget that the flag halyard should be installed on the starboard spreader. Fly your radar reflector from the port spreader.

Check out the <a href="http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/f_frames.html">Power Squadron's website</a> for more info on flag etiquette.


catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Raritan Bay
Rahway, NJ

I am having my mast down to install a Halyard Organizer under the step and want to add flag halyards at that time. My spreaders have eyestraps mounted about 2/3 of the way out but they are on the top of the spreader tube. Is this correct? or are the spreaders inverted. If it is correct, do they have another use?
Maybe I should just run the flag halyard around the tube thru the eyestrap. Any Ideas would be appreciated.

Bob Marsh
CD27#51 Aquanell
Dunedin,FL

[Bob S/V First Lady]

Catherine and all -

Your message made me realize I may have goofed. I had been told that, lacking a stern mount, it was acceptable to fly Old Glory from a starboard flag halyard. I do this only when aboard.

Your link, quoting Chapman's, seems to indicate that sailboats may ONLY fly Old Glory from a the stern.

Does anyone have insight as to whether its OK to fly Old Glory from a starboard halyard?

Help!

Thanks.

It is not proper for a U.S. registered yacht to fly the U.S. Ensign at the Starboard Spreader. The only time it is proper to fly a U.S. Ensign is if you are a foreign yacht flying the flag as a courtesy flag when entering a U.S. port while flying your ensign at the stern.

[Catherine Monaghan]

To make it easier for everybody, I've copied the text regarding flying the U.S. Ensign from the Power Squadron's website. It follows, verbatim:

"...The U.S. ensign is proper for all U.S. yachts, without reservation. This is "Old Glory," with 50 stars and 13 stripes. All boats, when at anchor, fly it from the stern staff, if so equipped, only while occupied. It is flown from the stern staff of powerboats underway on inland waters. If the powerboat has a mast and gaff, the proper display is at the gaff. On a sportsfisherman, where a stern staff would be in the way of the action, the practice is to fly the ensign from a halyard rigged just behind the tuna tower.

On Marconi-rigged sailboats under sail alone, the practice for many years had been to fly the ensign from the leech of the aftermost sail, approximately 2/3 the length of the leech above the clew. This puts it in about the same position it would occupy if the boat were gaff-rigged, and on gaff-rigged sailboats it is proper to fly the ensign from the peak of the aftermost gaff.

The advent of the modern high-aspect-ratio rig, with the boom end well inboard of the stern, has made it is possible to fly the ensign from the stern staff of a sailboat underway, and this is now an accepted practice. However, the ensign should never be displayed while the boat is racing. Under power alone, or at anchor or made fast, the ensign should be flown from the stern staff of all sailboats. If an overhanging boom requires that the staff be off center, it should preferably be on the starboard side...."

Yes, you can fly the U.S. Ensign from the backstay at least 2/3 the way up. This is considered the same as flying it 2/3 the way up the leech. But this is only acceptable while under sail.

Visit the following websites if you have any questions regarding flying any other flags, burgees, etc. from your boat:

<a href="http://www.smsa.com/flag.htm">http://ww ... lag.htm</a>
<a href="http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.ht ... tt.html</a>

Hope this helps.

catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay

would the backstay be considered the stern also? see a lotta people with that setup.

Catherine and all -

Your message made me realize I may have goofed. I had been told that, lacking a stern mount, it was acceptable to fly Old Glory from a starboard flag halyard. I do this only when aboard.

Your link, quoting Chapman's, seems to indicate that sailboats may ONLY fly Old Glory from a the stern.

Does anyone have insight as to whether its OK to fly Old Glory from a starboard halyard?

Help!

Thanks.

Chip
chipgavin@alum.colby.edu

Bob,

Don't forget that the flag halyard should be installed on the starboard spreader. Fly your radar reflector from the port spreader.

Check out the <a href="http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/f_frames.html">Power Squadron's website</a> for more info on flag etiquette.


catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Raritan Bay
Rahway, NJ

catherine_monaghan@merck.com