RESPITE will be hauled on Monday--seeking support group
Moderator: Jim Walsh
RESPITE will be hauled on Monday--seeking support group
Looking for a twelve step program that will take me to next spring. This year I may count the trips up (& down) the ladder at the yard. A thousand? Ten thousand???
Last year I (blush) pumped the bilge not knowing that a late arrival had parked under the pump's thru-hull. Fortunately it was only a bit of soapy water. The car's owner turned out to be the owner of SANDPIPER, a splendid CD36. No harm done. Apology was accepted, but I felt like an idiot.
Oh well, another five months until put-in. There are lots of crazy people wandering aroung boat yards this time of year (IMHO). If you hear me muttering, pay no attention. There is a valid need for a support group.
See you in the water.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
thebobers@erols.com
Last year I (blush) pumped the bilge not knowing that a late arrival had parked under the pump's thru-hull. Fortunately it was only a bit of soapy water. The car's owner turned out to be the owner of SANDPIPER, a splendid CD36. No harm done. Apology was accepted, but I felt like an idiot.
Oh well, another five months until put-in. There are lots of crazy people wandering aroung boat yards this time of year (IMHO). If you hear me muttering, pay no attention. There is a valid need for a support group.
See you in the water.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
thebobers@erols.com
You measure the season incorrectly!!!
>>Looking for a twelve step program that will take me to next spring.<<
You don't need a support group, just a different way of looking at the calendar.
LIQUIDITY is hauled this week... but... I figure up until Thanksgiving before all the stuff is off, she's winterized and shrink wrapped. I can bond with the boat whether she's floating or on the hard, although she much prefers floating, I assure you. Anyway, that leaves just December, January, a short February. First sunny weekend day in March, the cover is off and I climb up and have lunch on the boat. As I measure it, that's nine months of "sailing" and just three months of withdrawal, one of which only has 28 days and includes the boat show. The break is hardly enough time to sort through, organize, reorganize, fix, repair, etc., all the stuff I've hauled home and get it ready to load back on first thing in March.
Oh... in case you forgot, we sail from Boston, where it's already snowed. <groan>
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
neil@nrgordon.com
You don't need a support group, just a different way of looking at the calendar.
LIQUIDITY is hauled this week... but... I figure up until Thanksgiving before all the stuff is off, she's winterized and shrink wrapped. I can bond with the boat whether she's floating or on the hard, although she much prefers floating, I assure you. Anyway, that leaves just December, January, a short February. First sunny weekend day in March, the cover is off and I climb up and have lunch on the boat. As I measure it, that's nine months of "sailing" and just three months of withdrawal, one of which only has 28 days and includes the boat show. The break is hardly enough time to sort through, organize, reorganize, fix, repair, etc., all the stuff I've hauled home and get it ready to load back on first thing in March.
Oh... in case you forgot, we sail from Boston, where it's already snowed. <groan>
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
neil@nrgordon.com
Re: You measure the season incorrectly!!!
you both measure the season incorrectly.winter sailing is fun,if you have warm clothing,especially boots.a safety harness is also a real good idea,and you got to clear the ice off the decks.i'm heading south this winter,but i sailed year round in vinyard haven the last three years.it's fun calling your friends in january and asking if they want to go sailing.a nice day in january is better than a bad day in september.the boat only really needs to be hauled long enough to paint the bottom.as i measure it,that's three hundred sixty four days sailing,one day out. chris.: >>Looking for a twelve step program that will take me to next spring.<<
douglas_rock@hotmail.com
Neil Gordon wrote: You don't need a support group, just a different way of looking at the calendar.
LIQUIDITY is hauled this week... but... I figure up until Thanksgiving before all the stuff is off, she's winterized and shrink wrapped. I can bond with the boat whether she's floating or on the hard, although she much prefers floating, I assure you. Anyway, that leaves just December, January, a short February. First sunny weekend day in March, the cover is off and I climb up and have lunch on the boat. As I measure it, that's nine months of "sailing" and just three months of withdrawal, one of which only has 28 days and includes the boat show. The break is hardly enough time to sort through, organize, reorganize, fix, repair, etc., all the stuff I've hauled home and get it ready to load back on first thing in March.
Oh... in case you forgot, we sail from Boston, where it's already snowed. <groan>
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
douglas_rock@hotmail.com
Re: RESPITE will be hauled on Monday--seeking support group
Mitch,
We hauled DeLaMer 2 weekends ago, and covered her last weekend. My wife Jan had tears in her eyes as we left the boat, and I gave the teak a little kiss goodbye as we left..all this after 11 years of spending every available weekend aboard..33 of them this year.
Winter time IS a time of recollection, review and reconstruction. We have so many things to finish yet at the house..projects that got underway last winter, and sat dormant for the entire season. But more importantly, it is a time to recall the good sails, the great stories, and gloriuous sunsets of a summer gone by.
Neil has a way of looking at the down time that is similar to ours. We also minimalize the time by breaking it into the component months and it goes something like this;
November is busy with decommisioning the boat, regrouping at home, and getting ready for Thanksgiving. December is full of Christmas stuff..shopping, getting the tree in and trimmed, arranging for parties, etc. Then there is dreaded January. The Superbowl lost it's attractiveness (for us) after the last Vikings loss..so it's a non-event now...unless Denny Greene can get the team to the bowl!
So then there is the rest of that month. Well lets see, we always have our "January Thaw". This is a period of 2-3 days where we leave the very coldest of winter temps (-20 or -30 F) for some absolutely welcome 50deg. F temps. Then it returns to the subzero basement for a while. February is a short month, my birthday is in Feb., and we are looking forward to the free, all day long Sailing Seminar put on by Sailboats Inc. (this will be their 22nd year of doing it). That usually happens on the second weekend in March. The following weekend is the usual Basketball Tournement Snow Storm, and then we pack up the car and start heading north again, to our beloved boat. Last year, we reopened her on the 2nd weekend in March, as the snowstorm was canceled due to lack of interest.
No doubt, the hardest time is now, at the beginning. It seems now that the path for our return to weekends aboard is long and uncertain.
So this group helps soften the shock of being boatless for a short time.
You guys that sail year around are so lucky. But there are compensations for our winter down time...at least we feel that is so.
Cheers!
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 ~~~On The Hard on Lake Superior~~~~~~
demers@sgi.com
We hauled DeLaMer 2 weekends ago, and covered her last weekend. My wife Jan had tears in her eyes as we left the boat, and I gave the teak a little kiss goodbye as we left..all this after 11 years of spending every available weekend aboard..33 of them this year.
Winter time IS a time of recollection, review and reconstruction. We have so many things to finish yet at the house..projects that got underway last winter, and sat dormant for the entire season. But more importantly, it is a time to recall the good sails, the great stories, and gloriuous sunsets of a summer gone by.
Neil has a way of looking at the down time that is similar to ours. We also minimalize the time by breaking it into the component months and it goes something like this;
November is busy with decommisioning the boat, regrouping at home, and getting ready for Thanksgiving. December is full of Christmas stuff..shopping, getting the tree in and trimmed, arranging for parties, etc. Then there is dreaded January. The Superbowl lost it's attractiveness (for us) after the last Vikings loss..so it's a non-event now...unless Denny Greene can get the team to the bowl!
So then there is the rest of that month. Well lets see, we always have our "January Thaw". This is a period of 2-3 days where we leave the very coldest of winter temps (-20 or -30 F) for some absolutely welcome 50deg. F temps. Then it returns to the subzero basement for a while. February is a short month, my birthday is in Feb., and we are looking forward to the free, all day long Sailing Seminar put on by Sailboats Inc. (this will be their 22nd year of doing it). That usually happens on the second weekend in March. The following weekend is the usual Basketball Tournement Snow Storm, and then we pack up the car and start heading north again, to our beloved boat. Last year, we reopened her on the 2nd weekend in March, as the snowstorm was canceled due to lack of interest.
No doubt, the hardest time is now, at the beginning. It seems now that the path for our return to weekends aboard is long and uncertain.
So this group helps soften the shock of being boatless for a short time.
You guys that sail year around are so lucky. But there are compensations for our winter down time...at least we feel that is so.
Cheers!
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 ~~~On The Hard on Lake Superior~~~~~~
M. R. Bober wrote: Looking for a twelve step program that will take me to next spring. This year I may count the trips up (& down) the ladder at the yard. A thousand? Ten thousand???
Last year I (blush) pumped the bilge not knowing that a late arrival had parked under the pump's thru-hull. Fortunately it was only a bit of soapy water. The car's owner turned out to be the owner of SANDPIPER, a splendid CD36. No harm done. Apology was accepted, but I felt like an idiot.
Oh well, another five months until put-in. There are lots of crazy people wandering aroung boat yards this time of year (IMHO). If you hear me muttering, pay no attention. There is a valid need for a support group.
See you in the water.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
demers@sgi.com
Re: RESPITE will be hauled on Monday--seeking support group
If you are in the NH, ME area come sail Frostys with us in New Castle, NH.
Works for me!
Sincerely,
Lee
lhodsdon@nh.ultranet.com
Works for me!
Sincerely,
Lee
lhodsdon@nh.ultranet.com
Re: A DN-60 and a bottle of scotch....
Mitchell,
There are two things that go well with ICE; a DN-60 iceboat at 60 knots and a bottle of scotch! Set the bottle on the ice, let it get good and cold while you sail around the lake at 60 knots or so, stop the iceboat and drink the scotch! Great way to spend the winter and it keeps you from thinking about the months to go before you re-launch your CD!
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30
There are two things that go well with ICE; a DN-60 iceboat at 60 knots and a bottle of scotch! Set the bottle on the ice, let it get good and cold while you sail around the lake at 60 knots or so, stop the iceboat and drink the scotch! Great way to spend the winter and it keeps you from thinking about the months to go before you re-launch your CD!
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30
Re: RESPITE will be hauled on Monday--seeking support group
I dont know how you northern brethern do it!!!!!!!!!!!!! Four or five months on the hard would drive me absolutely crazy...I am seriously concerned about what to do when I pull Rhapsody in December or January for a bottom job and a few upgrades and re-launched at the end of January or February.....Cant imagine all winter without her in the water....hats off to those of you in Northern lattitudes.
Best wishes for a speedy winter..
Bill
cd25d@rhapsodysails.com
Best wishes for a speedy winter..
Bill
M. R. Bober wrote: Looking for a twelve step program that will take me to next spring. This year I may count the trips up (& down) the ladder at the yard. A thousand? Ten thousand???
Last year I (blush) pumped the bilge not knowing that a late arrival had parked under the pump's thru-hull. Fortunately it was only a bit of soapy water. The car's owner turned out to be the owner of SANDPIPER, a splendid CD36. No harm done. Apology was accepted, but I felt like an idiot.
Oh well, another five months until put-in. There are lots of crazy people wandering aroung boat yards this time of year (IMHO). If you hear me muttering, pay no attention. There is a valid need for a support group.
See you in the water.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
cd25d@rhapsodysails.com
Re:What about Insurance?
I'd like to extend the season, but my insurance says: "Haul by December 1." How did you handle insurance while sailing in Vinyard Haven in Jan.? Was the endorsement expensive?
Rluby@aol.com
Rluby@aol.com
Re:What about Insurance?
Call your agent. Generally "sailing time" can be added at small additional cost.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
Re:What about Insurance?
>>I'd like to extend the season, but my insurance says: "Haul by December 1."<<
Mine requires the boat to be decommissioned from November 1 to April 1, although it doesn't have to be hauled. Either way, a friend at the marina got a one month extension for $30.
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
neil@nrgordon.com
Mine requires the boat to be decommissioned from November 1 to April 1, although it doesn't have to be hauled. Either way, a friend at the marina got a one month extension for $30.
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
neil@nrgordon.com
Re: A DN-60 and a bottle of scotch....
Dave;
Tell you what. You do the DN-60 I'll be in the clubhouse watching you
while I guard the scotch..OK?
Tell you what. You do the DN-60 I'll be in the clubhouse watching you
while I guard the scotch..OK?
Re: A DN-60 and a bottle of scotch....
Mitchell,
While Dave's ICE idea is certainly attractive, having done same here in Wisconsin during those long winters (with a vintage ice boat), I think you should join me where there's REAL ice (you know where...) and no sailing season ever. Then when we return, everything looks (and feels) warm and ready for sailing by comparison.
Bob
rfl@yerkes.uchicago.edu
While Dave's ICE idea is certainly attractive, having done same here in Wisconsin during those long winters (with a vintage ice boat), I think you should join me where there's REAL ice (you know where...) and no sailing season ever. Then when we return, everything looks (and feels) warm and ready for sailing by comparison.
Bob
rfl@yerkes.uchicago.edu
Ours is covered year round!
Bob,
There are different policies and options out there. We have a policy from BoatU.S. and Realization is covered year round. But we cannot take her to Bermuda or farther south than Jacksonville, FL without additional insurance.
Call your agent or insurance carrier and see what needs to be done, and at what cost, to extend your sailing season coverage or sailing range.
Cathy
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
There are different policies and options out there. We have a policy from BoatU.S. and Realization is covered year round. But we cannot take her to Bermuda or farther south than Jacksonville, FL without additional insurance.
Call your agent or insurance carrier and see what needs to be done, and at what cost, to extend your sailing season coverage or sailing range.
Cathy
Bob Luby wrote: I'd like to extend the season, but my insurance says: "Haul by December 1." How did you handle insurance while sailing in Vinyard Haven in Jan.? Was the endorsement expensive?
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
Winter isn't really the end of the sailing season
The sailing season doesn't have to end just because the boat's sitting in a cradle in the boat yard. Winter is a great time to take a sailing vacation in the Caribbean. There are plenty of charter boats available, bareboat or crewed, all in beautiful sailing grounds with great destinations (personally, I prefer the BVIs). It's also a good time to think about taking a sailing course -- maybe you'd like to work on attaining your ASA certification, captain's license, take a boating safety course, learn performance sailing, or just brush up on something. Winter is a good time to take that navigation class you've been meaning to take -- coastal piloting or celestial -- since it doesn't require you to actually be on a boat (so you can stay inside where it's warm and still be participating in a boating activity).
Have fun this Winter, and keep on sailing!
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
Have fun this Winter, and keep on sailing!
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
M. R. Bober wrote: Looking for a twelve step program that will take me to next spring. This year I may count the trips up (& down) the ladder at the yard. A thousand? Ten thousand???
Last year I (blush) pumped the bilge not knowing that a late arrival had parked under the pump's thru-hull. Fortunately it was only a bit of soapy water. The car's owner turned out to be the owner of SANDPIPER, a splendid CD36. No harm done. Apology was accepted, but I felt like an idiot.
Oh well, another five months until put-in. There are lots of crazy people wandering aroung boat yards this time of year (IMHO). If you hear me muttering, pay no attention. There is a valid need for a support group.
See you in the water.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
catherine_monaghan@merck.com