I am thinking of adding lights to my Typhoon. She came with brass lanterns, which my wife promptly took away from me and hung in the den. I am planning to add a stern and bow light as well as a cabin light; do I also need to add a mast light. I am worried about running a wire through the cabin top. Also where is the best place to store the battery and hang a fuse panel.
Thanks
Jim
"Nipper"
jkingrea@flash.net
Seeking advice on adding lights to a Typhoon
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Stu Timm
Re: Seeking advice on adding lights to a Typhoon
Hi Jim,Jim Kingrea wrote: I am thinking of adding lights to my Typhoon. Also where is the best place to store the battery and hang a fuse panel.
I saw a Ty-19 with a full set of lights and a 6 circuit panel. Here's how they did it. The battery was a deep cycle 12 volt ( I reckon) stored direclty under the companionway step, (just aft of the step actually, on the cabin floor. I recall there was a small hump in the floor that was part of the fiberglass construction. It held the battery from sliding forward.
The owner of this Ty-19 installed a flush mounted, 6 circuit panel on the port side bulkhead about 9 inches above the floor to the centerline of the panel (where the quarterberth meets the vee berth at the port-a-potty area). I presume that he wired the panel from below using the access hatches located under the quarter berth cushions. For interior lighting, he had a dome lamp attached to the mast step arch, which has access ports p/s. He had some wiring exposed to view (surface mounted) for the masthead anchor light, which he ran on the forward side of that mast step arch.
For exterior lighting, he had seperate port/starboard "bullet" lights on either side of the cabin house, just forward of the teak coamings. He also had a dome aft light on the back deck.
The mast head light was wired internally through the mast and had a surface termination at the mast step. The owner had his VHF antenna wire also rigged similarly through a screw tight "weatherproof" coupling on the cabin roof. The electrical wiring for the masthead light was run through the cabin roof, siliconed at the hole, and run through a hole in the mast.
Aside from the few exposed wires, it was a fairly professional job. If I recall, he also had a VHF radio wired to teh same battery on the cabin house aft bulkhead, adjacent to the companionway. The area around the mast step on the roof looked like that of a bigger boat, with lots of black wires going this way and that. But I only noticed this under close inspection.
The boat's still for sale on Long Island, and I'm sure the broker will be glad to show it to you, as he did with me.
mitshu@juno.com
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sloopjohnl
Re: Seeking advice on adding lights to a Typhoon
jim,
i don't think you will want a combo bow kight as there is really no place for it at the stemhead. most,(including the install i did) have cabin-side lights mounted between the portlights and the forward end of the cockpit coaming. inside your wiring will be exposed but can be neatly wrapped in shrink tubing or vinyl tubing. i'm stll working on a dressy way to conceal these. Perko makes some nice small vertical mount lights for this application. for the masthead, mount the light above the forestay, run the wire internal and exit the mast below the side cleats. use rubber grommets to protect the wires in the exit holes. i used a waterproof connector at the cabintop deck so i could unplug and seal when not in use. the connector is located about 8-10" in front of mast step. in this area there is enough space to snake a wire between the headliner and the cabintop decking. use an electrician's fish on the inside of the boat from the side of the headliner forward of the maststep bracing. its not simple but it is doable. this will conceal this wire as it can be run along the side of the headliner. i put an interior light just aft of the maststep bracing on the starboard side of the centerline. again use the fish to snake the wire to conceal. i also installed an auxillary plug in the interior corner above the quarterberth formed by the cockpit molding. my electric panel is on the starboard side of the hull liner just above the head of the quarterberth. i built a box out of mahogany and used a seadog panel. the wires for the sidelights and the auxillary were concealed by running them aft of the companuinway opening and under the cockpit mold. for the sternlight i installed a teak block on the aft deck to give it some elevation and attached the wires to the interior deck/hull joint with plastic wire clamps. my battery is located in the front access panel of the v-berth and wires run to the panel between the liner and the hull. use some heavier gauge wire here (8-10). this location helps balance the trim with a 6hp motor in back.
this conceals all the wires except about two feet of the sidelight wires on the inside. if you have a good idea for this let us know.
i don't think you will want a combo bow kight as there is really no place for it at the stemhead. most,(including the install i did) have cabin-side lights mounted between the portlights and the forward end of the cockpit coaming. inside your wiring will be exposed but can be neatly wrapped in shrink tubing or vinyl tubing. i'm stll working on a dressy way to conceal these. Perko makes some nice small vertical mount lights for this application. for the masthead, mount the light above the forestay, run the wire internal and exit the mast below the side cleats. use rubber grommets to protect the wires in the exit holes. i used a waterproof connector at the cabintop deck so i could unplug and seal when not in use. the connector is located about 8-10" in front of mast step. in this area there is enough space to snake a wire between the headliner and the cabintop decking. use an electrician's fish on the inside of the boat from the side of the headliner forward of the maststep bracing. its not simple but it is doable. this will conceal this wire as it can be run along the side of the headliner. i put an interior light just aft of the maststep bracing on the starboard side of the centerline. again use the fish to snake the wire to conceal. i also installed an auxillary plug in the interior corner above the quarterberth formed by the cockpit molding. my electric panel is on the starboard side of the hull liner just above the head of the quarterberth. i built a box out of mahogany and used a seadog panel. the wires for the sidelights and the auxillary were concealed by running them aft of the companuinway opening and under the cockpit mold. for the sternlight i installed a teak block on the aft deck to give it some elevation and attached the wires to the interior deck/hull joint with plastic wire clamps. my battery is located in the front access panel of the v-berth and wires run to the panel between the liner and the hull. use some heavier gauge wire here (8-10). this location helps balance the trim with a 6hp motor in back.
this conceals all the wires except about two feet of the sidelight wires on the inside. if you have a good idea for this let us know.
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jerry cureton
Re: Seeking advice on adding lights to a Typhoon
How do you charge the battery? I have a 1973 Ty which I just got; it has no electrics. I like the idea of masthead lights, but have not figured out the charging issue. Solar panels? [My boat lives on a mooring, so shore power is irrelevant,]
jcureton@home.com
sloopjohnl wrote: jim,
i don't think you will want a combo bow kight as there is really no place for it at the stemhead. most,(including the install i did) have cabin-side lights mounted between the portlights and the forward end of the cockpit coaming. inside your wiring will be exposed but can be neatly wrapped in shrink tubing or vinyl tubing. i'm stll working on a dressy way to conceal these. Perko makes some nice small vertical mount lights for this application. for the masthead, mount the light above the forestay, run the wire internal and exit the mast below the side cleats. use rubber grommets to protect the wires in the exit holes. i used a waterproof connector at the cabintop deck so i could unplug and seal when not in use. the connector is located about 8-10" in front of mast step. in this area there is enough space to snake a wire between the headliner and the cabintop decking. use an electrician's fish on the inside of the boat from the side of the headliner forward of the maststep bracing. its not simple but it is doable. this will conceal this wire as it can be run along the side of the headliner. i put an interior light just aft of the maststep bracing on the starboard side of the centerline. again use the fish to snake the wire to conceal. i also installed an auxillary plug in the interior corner above the quarterberth formed by the cockpit molding. my electric panel is on the starboard side of the hull liner just above the head of the quarterberth. i built a box out of mahogany and used a seadog panel. the wires for the sidelights and the auxillary were concealed by running them aft of the companuinway opening and under the cockpit mold. for the sternlight i installed a teak block on the aft deck to give it some elevation and attached the wires to the interior deck/hull joint with plastic wire clamps. my battery is located in the front access panel of the v-berth and wires run to the panel between the liner and the hull. use some heavier gauge wire here (8-10). this location helps balance the trim with a 6hp motor in back.
this conceals all the wires except about two feet of the sidelight wires on the inside. if you have a good idea for this let us know.
jcureton@home.com
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Jim Kingrea
Re: Seeking advice on adding lights to a Typhoon
Thanks for all the advice. I may rethink and just use portable lights on the bow & stern rather than drill holes and run wires through "nipper".Jim Kingrea wrote: I am thinking of adding lights to my Typhoon. She came with brass lanterns, which my wife promptly took away from me and hung in the den. I am planning to add a stern and bow light as well as a cabin light; do I also need to add a mast light. I am worried about running a wire through the cabin top. Also where is the best place to store the battery and hang a fuse panel.
Thanks
Jim
"Nipper"
jkingrea@flash.net
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sloopjohnl
Re: Seeking advice on adding lights to a Typhoon
i have a gel and don't really use the lights a lot. my 6hp doesn't have an alternator set up so once or twice a seasin i remove the battery, take it home and give it a good charge. if i used more battery power i would seriously consider solar - would not take much to keep the battery up.