Pumping water out of the hull without working bilge
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Pumping water out of the hull without working bilge
Folks:
I've just found a 40 year old CD25 that I'm now in the process of negotiating to purchase. It's.on a trailer in the back of a maintenance yard. It looks to be in reasonably good condition, but will need TLC. It doesn't have access to A.C. Power. If there is a battery, I'm sure it will need to be replaced and isn't working. There is rain water in the bottom of the hull that needs to be pump out. What do y'all recommend? I would be OK using some type of hand pump, but there appears to be a good amount of water. (I tried this afternoon to use a garden hose via siphoning, but that sucked, literally
Thanks,
Dave Rosselle
Lake Lanier
Gainesville GA
I've just found a 40 year old CD25 that I'm now in the process of negotiating to purchase. It's.on a trailer in the back of a maintenance yard. It looks to be in reasonably good condition, but will need TLC. It doesn't have access to A.C. Power. If there is a battery, I'm sure it will need to be replaced and isn't working. There is rain water in the bottom of the hull that needs to be pump out. What do y'all recommend? I would be OK using some type of hand pump, but there appears to be a good amount of water. (I tried this afternoon to use a garden hose via siphoning, but that sucked, literally
Thanks,
Dave Rosselle
Lake Lanier
Gainesville GA
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Re: Pumping water out of the hull without working bilge
Install a garboard drain. It makes cleaning the bilge much easier and for us up north, eliminates the freezing bilge problem...
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/us ... Drain+Plug
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/us ... Drain+Plug
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Re: Pumping water out of the hull without working bilge
How much water is there? Too much for manual pumping?
Siphoning should work... it's easier if you can fill the hose with water first... not so hard with a garden hose with a nozzle.
Siphoning should work... it's easier if you can fill the hose with water first... not so hard with a garden hose with a nozzle.
Fair winds, Neil
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Re: Pumping water out of the hull without working bilge
find yourself a whale gusher urchin pump....it is self priming....can use it on a footboard ..outside the boat...to start a siphoning...and once running it will pass through the pump with out further pumping...and after you get into the boat...you can mount the urchin...and continue to use it ....can find the pump at westmarine/defender/amazon...and if anything fails on the pump...it has a rebuild kit....just got mine from amazon...the pump is capable of pumping small amounts of debris...have seen washers/nuts..dead bugs pass though mine.....
Re: Pumping water out of the hull without working bilge
The garden hose siphon will work and is easy if the boat is on a trailer. Take a wet/dry shop vac (filter removed)with you and use it to start the siphon by holding it over outlet end of hose (may need to use hand to seal). Once the siphon has done most of the work you can use shop vac to get the remaining water out. Its not the fastest method, but works well. This worked on a CD26 and should work on a CD25.
I've siphoned the bilge of a Ty on a trailer before by hand and had no problem. The highest point where the hose crosses the side of the boat needs to be as low as possible and you need to minimize the length of hose to this point, otherwise you'll run out of lung capacity. One other hint, make sure you know what the hose was last used for and never use a hose that was previously used to evacuate a holding tank! I accidently broke these rules once, NOT PLEASANT!
I've siphoned the bilge of a Ty on a trailer before by hand and had no problem. The highest point where the hose crosses the side of the boat needs to be as low as possible and you need to minimize the length of hose to this point, otherwise you'll run out of lung capacity. One other hint, make sure you know what the hose was last used for and never use a hose that was previously used to evacuate a holding tank! I accidently broke these rules once, NOT PLEASANT!
Steve
Pleasant Journey, Morgan 35
Previously:
'85 CD 26, Hull No. 30
'74 Typhoon Hull No. 789
Great Bay/Little Egg Harbor, NJ
Pleasant Journey, Morgan 35
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'74 Typhoon Hull No. 789
Great Bay/Little Egg Harbor, NJ
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Re: Pumping water out of the hull without working bilge
Hi Dave,
Since you have no available electrical power, the easiest and cheapest solution is a drill powered pump using a battery powered cordless drill motor. You can use it to pump all the water or to start a good siphon. Make sure your hose is at the deepest part of the bilge.Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to pump it out.
You can get them at most any hardware store, Home Depot, Lowes, Harbor Freight.
It's a tool that can come in handy around the house also.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Flotec-Drill ... /100145129
http://www.harborfreight.com/all-purpos ... 34302.html
Good Luck,
Since you have no available electrical power, the easiest and cheapest solution is a drill powered pump using a battery powered cordless drill motor. You can use it to pump all the water or to start a good siphon. Make sure your hose is at the deepest part of the bilge.Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to pump it out.
You can get them at most any hardware store, Home Depot, Lowes, Harbor Freight.
It's a tool that can come in handy around the house also.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Flotec-Drill ... /100145129
http://www.harborfreight.com/all-purpos ... 34302.html
Good Luck,
Steve Bryant
"Elan" 1981 CD25 #815
"Elan" 1981 CD25 #815
Re: Pumping water out of the hull without working bilge
If you go with the drill pump, run fresh water thru it after use. Salt water will corrode and it will become inoperable. From experience, unfortunately.
Re: Pumping water out of the hull without working bilge
I've been real happy with my aqua charge pump. My typhoon does not have power and either does the dock I'm at. http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?pa ... id=1811577
Sincerely,
Chris B.
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Chris B.
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Re: Pumping water out of the hull without working bilge
How much water are we talking about?
This year I had about 60+ gallons of water in Solstice...it came up halfway to my cabin seats. Getting down & dirty with a 1 gallon jug & a Home Depot bucket, I was able to get it all out the old fashioned way by myself in about an hour and a half, (with a few union breaks of course.) Get a friend involved & cut the time in half. On a side note, beer helps motivate your sailing buddies... It seems daunting in the beginning but it's not so bad once you got a rhythm going.
As I've mentioned, beer helps.
Best of luck, Big E
This year I had about 60+ gallons of water in Solstice...it came up halfway to my cabin seats. Getting down & dirty with a 1 gallon jug & a Home Depot bucket, I was able to get it all out the old fashioned way by myself in about an hour and a half, (with a few union breaks of course.) Get a friend involved & cut the time in half. On a side note, beer helps motivate your sailing buddies... It seems daunting in the beginning but it's not so bad once you got a rhythm going.
As I've mentioned, beer helps.
Best of luck, Big E
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Re: Pumping water out of the hull without working bilge
I'm surprised there isn't a manual bilge pump. Many of our CDs have manual bilge pumps in the stern cockpit lazarette. There should be a fitting somewhere below the cockpit helm seat for the pump's handle. Anyway, if the boat doesn't have one, this should be one of the first things you install.
Fair winds,
Cathy
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Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
Fair winds,
Cathy
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Re: Pumping water out of the hull without working bilge
I am not where I heard this but "the most efficient pump in the world is a scared sailor with a bucket."Big E wrote:How much water are we talking about?
This year I had about 60+ gallons of water in Solstice...it came up halfway to my cabin seats. Getting down & dirty with a 1 gallon jug & a Home Depot bucket, I was able to get it all out the old fashioned way by myself in about an hour and a half, (with a few union breaks of course.) Get a friend involved & cut the time in half. On a side note, beer helps motivate your sailing buddies... It seems daunting in the beginning but it's not so bad once you got a rhythm going.
As I've mentioned, beer helps.
Best of luck, Big E
Fair winds,
Roberto
a/k/a Sea Hunt "The Tadpole Sailor"
CDSOA #1097
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Roberto
a/k/a Sea Hunt "The Tadpole Sailor"
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