CD25 Sailing Characteristics?

[Doug Kelch]

I am about to buy a 1977 CD25 and would like some information regarding it's sailing characteristics. I have been saiing small boats for 25 years. The largest I have owned was a 22 ft AMF 2100 about 12 years ago. I currently have a Montgomer 15 which I like a lot and will probabaly keep.
I have heard that the CD27 is the best sailing of the CD line (by a CD27 owner) Is this true? How does the CD25 compare to the CD25D and CD26?

Thanks

Doug



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[Dana]

This may be a tough question for many. I.E. to have sailed all of them. Personally, I have been on a CD25 (boat show), sailed along side a CD25 with my CD26, sailed a CD25D and of course my CD26. All are very good sea boats. Handling is compariable between the CD25 and the CD25D/26. I think you may find the CD25D/26 a little bit better light wind boat. There is very little difference between the handling of the CD25D and CD26. They have the exact shape standing rigging and hull design except the added stern section for the outboard well. The biggest difference between the CD25 and the other two is physical, ie. standing head room resulting in a higher freeboard.

I am about to buy a 1977 CD25 and would like some information regarding it's sailing characteristics. I have been saiing small boats for 25 years. The largest I have owned was a 22 ft AMF 2100 about 12 years ago. I currently have a Montgomer 15 which I like a lot and will probabaly keep.
I have heard that the CD27 is the best sailing of the CD line (by a CD27 owner) Is this true? How does the CD25 compare to the CD25D and CD26?

Thanks


Doug

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[Jerry J Commisso]

I am about to buy a 1977 CD25 and would like some information regarding it's sailing characteristics. I have been saiing small boats for 25 years. The largest I have owned was a 22 ft AMF 2100 about 12 years ago. I currently have a Montgomer 15 which I like a lot and will probabaly keep.
I have heard that the CD27 is the best sailing of the CD line (by a CD27 owner) Is this true? How does the CD25 compare to the CD25D and CD26?

Thanks

Hi Doug

For about the last 15 years or so i have been sailing Cape Dory's , first i had a CD25 for about 6 years, after that i wanted a bit more room so i bought a CD27 i had that one for 8 years as a matter of fact i have it for sale now. I just recently purchased a CD30 Cutter rig, in my opinion the CD30 sails better than both the CD25 and CD27.They are all excellent boats to sail, it mostly depends on how the boat will be used you really can't go wrong with any of them.The CD25 is small inside no head room,a nice feature is the engine down low in the well, good if your in bad weather because the engine stays in the water.The CD27 has more room inside and is better for sleeping aboard,i prefer the inboard the boat is a lot heavier so its better in rough weather.The CD30 has more room than the CD27 i am happy with the Cutter rig and in my opinion is a better sailing,and more stable boat.Good luck and if you would like more infomation i will try to help you out just e-mail me.
Jerry

Doug

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[M.J. Marroni]

Jerry

I am looking for a CD27 on the West Coast. Where is your's located? If anywhere near the pacific Northwest, please provide details.

Thanks and Happy New Year.

Mark Marroni
Portland, OR

[Jerry J Commisso]

Mark
My boat CD27 is located in New Jersey, good luck in your search for a new boat

HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR,
Jerry

Jerry


I am looking for a CD27 on the West Coast. Where is your's located? If anywhere near the pacific Northwest, please provide details.

Thanks and Happy New Year.

Mark Marroni
Portland, OR

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[Don Carr]

I am about to buy a 1977 CD25 and would like some information regarding it's sailing characteristics. I have been saiing small boats for 25 years. The largest I have owned was a 22 ft AMF 2100 about 12 years ago. I currently have a Montgomer 15 which I like a lot and will probabaly keep.
I have heard that the CD27 is the best sailing of the CD line (by a CD27 owner) Is this true? How does the CD25 compare to the CD25D and CD26?

Thanks

Doug;
My comments here do not attempt to compare one boat over another. As the owner of a CD 25 these are my sailing impressions. First it is not a particualrly good light air boat unless you have additional sail area via a spinnaker. Second as a downwind boat the full keel hull profile definitely limits it performance here- again unless you find a way to up the sail area you are best on an off wind tack.
Now for the good stuff. If you have winds blowing 8-15 knots she will sail very nicely close hauled and absolutletly fly on a broad reach using the main and genoa. The limiting factor in pointing performance here is how tightly sheeted you can get the genny- the stays outboard will limit you here. I find for close hauled upwind performance I will use my working jib and sheet via the fairlead inside the stays..I can trim very well in that configuration. About the best close hauled bearing is about 50 degrees about as good as it gets for a full keeled boat.
If your wind exceeds 15-18 knots time to consider a reef in the main
and wouldn't exceed about a 120 gen. Anything over 20 knots and it's working jib, reefed main. I find howver that weather helm is the biggest problem when the boat is overpowered. She sails best at about 15-20 degrees of heel, just enough to enable the righting moment in the keel.
These are my obseravations on a 1981 boat with roller reefing, 'old fashioned' traveler system, no boom vang. Generally I find the boat to be above average in handling in higher winds and larger seas. Theorhetically the hull speed is 5.99 knots but I have had her cruising at 6.2- 7.0 knots for over 3 hours as measured by GPS. Although current may have helped, I have calculated a hull speed of 6.5 knots at 20 degrees heel (get more of that stern in the water and elongate the waterline). Frankly the CD25 sails more like a 'big boat' and you will find that she doesn't turn as quickly as your 'fin' keel boats.. once understood she is a fun boat to sail and can sneak up on some other boats quite well in the right winds.



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[David Brownlee]

We owned a CD25 for several years (before buying our CD27). We bought her in Mamaroneck, NY, and sailed her down the New Jersey coast and up the Delaware to near Burlington, NJ (upstream of Philadelphia). We kept the boat there for two years, but, tiring of the motorboats on the Delaware, we moved her down to the Chesapeake, where we cruised her for two years, often living aboard for a week or more at a time. We sailed her in all sorts of weather.

We loved the boat--especially the sweet swing of her sheer (so much more than the Alberg designs!), and we learned to get the most out of her. She is not a great light air performer, and if we had kept her any longer we would have gotten either a big genny/drifter or a cruising 'chute. Our mainsail was rather baggy, so we had to reef a bit earlier than some of the others who have responded. (We installed two rows of conventional reef points and a boom vang--which we would recommend.) She does not like to be overpowered; with her relatively shallow keel, she begins to go sideways when heeled way down. We often sheeted the working jib to blocks on the toe rail (we had to add these on their own little run of track), because it's impossible to use a whisker pole with the jib if it is sheeted to the fairleads inside the shrouds.

The CD25 is a small boat, as you discover when you try to stand up or in rough weather. The heavier, inboard-powered CDs (from 25D on up) are roomier and more powerful in a breeze. The outboard engine is both a blessing and a curse. It's a joy to be able to yank it out and take it to be fixed. (And after we downsized to 6hp is was *possible* to yank it out!) But the smell of gasoline is not something I miss.

Have fun!

Ann and David Brownlee
WINDRUSH CD27 #181
Havre de Grace, MD



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[Bill]

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I have sailed for many years on dingys and 30 footers. I had a Typhoon and traded for a 25. I have roller reefing with a large new jib. The main is loose footed. I sail in Lake Erie so must be ready for rapid changes in weather and seas. I find the 25 to be a gereat boat. In light air you will not fly but once the wind is over 5 ,it becomes better. When it is 15 and the light displacement boats are on their sides, you will be comfortable.
The boat is more of a daysailer because of cramped cabin but you can certainly do a weekend.
The worst problem is that with the outboard behind the rudder,it is hell to control when you go in reverse.
Buy the boat--You will not regret it. It is a true classic which gets envious looks from sailing purists.



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