TY Senior Sails

[Woody Norwood]

I think the sails that came with my new (1985) TY Senior might be the originals, made by Horizon, called "Horizon 2000). They look pretty worn. The main has 4 full-length battens and two reefing rows. The main attached to the mast and boom using nylon bullets. The genny is, I think, a 160. The boat also came with a storm jib (an 80%). I am thinking the original theory was to put a roller-reefing humongous jib on and then replace it with the storm version when the wind kicks up. Here are the questions:
1. Is it still the current preference to use nylon bullets to attach the main to the mast and boom? Or, do the newer sails go into the slots with a bolt rope?
2. Does the current preferred set-up still use full battens n the main?
3. What is the ideal size for the genny, assuming that one has the option of going to a spinnaker off wind and the plan is to both cruise and race (even when not racing I like to get the most performance from my boat?
4. As a practical matter, can you change the jib with reasonable ease while at sea when it is on a roller furled?
5. Who makes the best sails for the TY Senior? (I am inclined toward FX)

As a note, my inclination would be to go to a 120 or 130 jib and a spinnaker...but I need your input.

Thanks

[Anthony P. Jeske]

Hi Woody:
1. I recommend you keep the slugs on your new mainsail. A boltrope main falls all over the deck when dropped, and is a royal pain to flake on the boom, especially if your single handed.
2. No. Most sailmakers, and many CD'rs on this board, recommend a loose footed sail with full battens only on the upper part of the sail.
3. Genny size is a function of the winds in your area. Mostly light winds, big genny. Lots of breeze, smaller, keeping in mind your heavier Typhoon will need more sail to move smartly.
4. While it's possible to change, it's a pain. Reefing by partially rolling up the jib is a poor alternative. you'll do better by reefing the main.
5. I'd recommend you use a local loft. Ask for recommendations from fellow sailors at your marina.

Good Luck,
Tony Jeske

[Woody Norwood]

Thanks. I had thought these boats reefed the main by rolling the boom and so loose foot wold not work well in that case. It turns out that the Senior has a jiffy-reefing set-up so I'll go with loose-foot, full top batten (or 2?) and 2 reef points.

About what would be the ideal % genoa in 12 to 15 kts? We get lighter on the Lowcountry (SC) coast but knowing the answer to this would help me calibrate the ideal genny cut.

[ray b]

IF YOU MUST HAVE ROLLER unfurling [AND IT WILL AT THE WORST TIME ]

USE A SLOTTED FOIL so you can change sails eazy and get the sail off the stay for storage/storms

you can get a genny with reef points not idea but better then a part rolled up sail

I would go big for a light air sail 140-170

a 110 jib worker for most sailing winds

and carry a racing dinky small jib for storm get home sail

[Woody Norwood]

Thanks. I have never been a fan of roller reefing but thought I would give out a shot on this boat since it is mainly for cruising and all the CD 22s apparently came with roller. I do like the idea of a reef point on the genny as being a better option than rolling in strong weather on a beat if this weather and point-of-sail is going to prevail for more than a short time. For the off-wind in light air, I would think it is easier to put up an A-Sail (gennaker) than to replace the working jib. At least the A-Sail can be taken down and the working sail deployed quickly whereas changing out the genny would seem a bigger chore. But I honestly do not know yet.