Thinking about a Typhoon Weekender... need some thoughts

MarksInnerDemon · Post by **MarksInnerDemon** » Oct 2nd, '09, 11:48

mgphl52 · Post by **mgphl52** » Oct 2nd, '09, 13:43

First and foremost (IMHO) is whether there are *any* soft spots in the hull. Next would be condition of the deck and cabin top. If all that passes and you are handy with marine/fiberglass repairs (looks like she could use an Awlgrip paint job or some such), then I would say she "could" be a good buy, as long as you have the time, patience and desire for refinish her.
Typhoons are truly great boats and wonderfully forgiving boats for learning on. I know this well since a Ty was my first boat and another was my third boat!

I moved up to CD25s after each Ty. There was a 13 year period I was boatless but started over with a Ty when I finally got the chance, about 14 years ago. If memory serves me, I paid 3,500 for the Ty, motor & trailer then.

-michael

Markst95 · Post by **Markst95** » Oct 2nd, '09, 13:55

Hi Mark- Looks to be a mid 70's Typhoon. Thanks for the pics. The main thing I would look for is core delamination in the deck. Once its cleaned up a little walk around all the deck areas, listen for any cracking noise and look for any flex. Pay attention to the areas around where any hardware are mounted to the deck. The rudder looks ok but double check that it hasn't started to split away from the rudder post. Is the Honda outboard included? I would want decent sails for that price. Check the teak as well, it gets pretty pricey if you need to replace larger pieces.

shavdog · Post by **shavdog** » Oct 2nd, '09, 14:21

To me it looks like it has been out of the water for a few yrs...these kinds of boats in the end can require alot of time and money to get back in shape...on the other hand it should be a very low price because of that and the economy to get my attn...i'd say 2k or less would be better than the 3k you posted...cosmetics(including paint, sails, rigging, trailer repairs, ect) add up much faster than you can imagine...i'd offer low..you can always increase but I would guess you'll spend1500-2000 at a minimum if you want to do it right...Last yr I did one of these..they are wonderful sailing boats...make sure it has the original removable motor mount..a new one is 400....bearings and tires for the trailer might be an issue...anything sitting is hard on the bearing and tires are probably rotten inside...take your hand and run it along all the rigging attached to the mast to see if there are any broken wires...see how easily the two winches turn...they probably need maintenance the way they look...all of these things should be considered in your offer...i'd use 5k as a base price for a decent typhoon and subtract your outta pocket costs plus 50% for unknowns to arrive at an offer...i'd spend some time inspecting the sail inventory tomake sure you have a variety and they are serviceable....in the end if you have to replace sails, that will be your biggest expense...you should have a 100,150 and a main...or a 135 instead of a 150 and some if you are lucky will have a spinnaker..chek the condition for wear and tears..small repairs can be made with sail tape...there are deals around...I passed on a nice typhoon and trailer two months ago for 4500 and it was in very decent condition ready to sail....be patient...they are out there..if this doesnt work out...check on your local craigs list

Bob B · Post by **Bob B** » Oct 2nd, '09, 15:11

The boat that you are looking at appears to be salvageable. I agree about soft spots in hull or deck. Look it over pretty good. The cosmetic stuff is just hard work but not that expensive. The life of the rigging may be an expense if it is not in good shape.
I see the letters on it are SC. I have owned a Typhoon, CD 27 and CD 25D and have just bought a Typhoon and am refinishing it now. If you are in SC and want to give me a call to talk about it let me know.

Bob B.

MarksInnerDemon · Post by **MarksInnerDemon** » Oct 2nd, '09, 16:45

Bob yeah I am in SC will probably have some dumb questions.

The boat has been out of the water for a while, but its in good condition, and the engine mount is right along with the boat.

As for the deck it's solid, and the sails looked ok to my dumb eyes... I know a sail guy through a friend up in columbia so I might be ok there if any issues arise.

Also no frays in the cables on the mast thank god. I put 500 down and going to start paying it off. I figure trailer and boat its a decent deal. Also the wheels on the trailer ok, one bent cross beam, but he had a replacment beam that just needs to be put on.

seajunkie · Post by **seajunkie** » Oct 2nd, '09, 19:34

I would take a deep breath and make sure that you didn't fall in lust with this boat. Wait a week before you make a decision. 3K isn't a great deal.

Someone gave me an Alberg designed Kenner Kittiwake. It is a similar boat to this one. It was in the water and it could be sailed. When I started to think seriously about bringing the boat up to a reasonable standard I realized that I could buy a boat for less money then it would cost to restore that boat.

Unless you are looking forward to spending a great deal of time working on a boat I would walk away. The person who owned this didn't take care of it. It was sitting in a back yard gathering leaves and probably water. It wasn't even rinsed off to sell. You have time, because there can't be a line looking for that boat. If you are patient, a better one will come along, or this one will go for less then $1k.

I'm sure that isn't what you want to hear, but that's my humble opinion. I guess you paid nothing for my opinion, so that's what it's worth.

Bob B · Post by **Bob B** » Oct 2nd, '09, 19:35

Yes, I'd say that you have a little work but will come out with a real deal. That is about what I did with the Typhoon that I have now. Right now, the mast is in the shed, the woodwork in the shop and working on the bottom paint. Will likely have it in the water sometime this winter. The nice thing about the Carolinas is that with a Typhoon, we can sail all year.
Hope you enjoy it as much as I have my Cape Dories. Once you sail one of these, you just get hooked.

Bob B.

MarksInnerDemon · Post by **MarksInnerDemon** » Oct 2nd, '09, 20:03

I had been looking at it for about a month before coming on here. I have lots of time to get it done and a guy whos amazing wood worker. The only thing I will have a bit of issue with is the very minimal fiberglass work I think.

Oswego John · Post by **Oswego John** » Oct 2nd, '09, 20:13

If they are in half decent condition, $1,000.00 might not be enough for the trailer and motor.

Try to get the price a little lower than 3K if you can. I've seen a lot of boats in worse condition. That boat looks okay in the pictures.

It's hard to say. I saw nothing glaringly wrong with it. What does your gut feeling tell you?

O J

novotny · Post by **novotny** » Oct 3rd, '09, 04:42

Another known issue to look at is roof compression from mast/stay tension. This becomes more obvious when the mast is up. Most TYs need a post inside to counteract it.
I bought a TY four years ago that sat in a marina for a couple of years untouched. Good sails, cushions and motor were kept indoors luckily. Boat was mostly filthy, wood needed refinishing, soft spot on foredeck, compressed roof, non skid deck needed paint. No trailer. Paid $1300. I worked on it every day for about a month and it was like new. They are great boats. Good luck.

Sally Perreten · Post by **Sally Perreten** » Oct 3rd, '09, 06:28

We just bought an older not-sailed-in-awhile TY weekender, downsizing from a CD27. Some soap and water, a bit of polish and wax, not that much sanding and she looks vastly improved. The rest can wait until spring. I did paint the nonskid areas as they were mostly worn smooth. Used Interdeck and it was easy to use. Looks terrific.

Great boat. We love her to bits. When it comes to work - she is way smaller than the 27. She is so easy to sail it's a dream.

We paid $3000 in New England. No trailer. Replaced seacocks and sailcover.

Sally

Steve Laume · Post by **Steve Laume** » Oct 3rd, '09, 13:44

Mark or his demon, go for it.

It's funny how lots of people think the boat they own is worth a small fortune and the one's they are buying aren't worth much at all. I suppose there are $1000.00 Typhoons out there but they are either the find of a lifetime or in serious need of major work. There all free boats too but they will usually cost you more than buying something decent in the first place.

Try finding a Typhoon trailer, if you don't have one. You could look for a long time, build one or buy a really nice new one for a good bit more than you are paying for the whole package.

It also sounds like you are getting free financing. Not a bad deal at all.

You could keep looking for a long time to find the perfect deal but if you buy this one you will have your boat and begin to love her.

The deck issues are real and you will find out once you really get to poking around if you have already bought the boat. It isn't anything that can't be fixed.

The boat is dirty. I don't care how clean it is when you get it, it will need to be cleaned again. You will never be more enthusiastic about cleaning and buffing that hull than when you first get it. It will never be more rewarding than this time either. She will be transformed before your eyes.

Half the fun is working on your boat anyway. Have a blast, Steve.

Troy Scott · Post by **Troy Scott** » Oct 4th, '09, 00:36

Mark,

She looks OK in the photos. There may be problems, but the solutions are well known. There are lots of folks here who will be happy to help you. These boats are absolutely beautiful when they're all fixed up. I've always missed the Ty that I bought new and traded for another Cape Dory back in the early 80s. I'd love to have a Ty even now.

A few words of warning: The name "weekender" is a stretch. I used to do it, but it's definitely camping....., more like backpacking....., and don't even think that you'll be happy sailing her with several people aboard. Two adults is crowded. She's a single-hander.

Sally Perreten · Post by **Sally Perreten** » Oct 4th, '09, 06:52

You are certainly right, Troy! I'm laughing because my son looked into the cuddy cabin and exclaimed that of course we could overnight, why not? I didn't tell him that when he's our age, folding himself up to use the head is......oh, never mind.

Sally

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Thinking about a Typhoon Weekender... need some thoughts

Thinking about a Typhoon Weekender... need some thoughts

Go sailing with someone who owns a typhoon

$1,000.00

Not that much work

buy her

Yup