Best spot for cabin heater in CD36 cutter?

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Bill Cochrane

Best spot for cabin heater in CD36 cutter?

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Contemplating putting a cabin heater (probably diesel) in my CD-36, and the only location that seems remotely useable is on the shelf (or adjacent bulkhead) atop the locker at the forward end of the starboard setee. Strikes me that it's too high for good heat circulation, and the resulting short stack wouldn't draw well. Can't use the portside bulkhead behind the head, since the boat is fitted with the bulkhead-mounted folding table. What have others done?



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Brewer Ezzell

Re: Best spot for cabin heater in CD36 cutter?

Post by Brewer Ezzell »

Bill,

Chardonny, a 1979 CD36, has a straight starboard setee with no shelf or cabinet at the bulkhead. A Force 10 propane heater is mounted on the bulkhead. This particular heater has a small stack. It makes for a very neat installation.

Brewer



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sam

Re: Best spot for cabin heater in CD36 cutter?

Post by sam »

An idea. I have a fireplace on my 40. To increase the heat circulation I use a small 'muffin' fan which are readily available, inexpensive and run off 12 volts. I have it mounted near the cabin top and it does a fine job of circulating the heat. At anchor on a cold day it makes a world of difference which is readily apparent when you go into the unheated head!
Warren Stringer

Re: Best spot for cabin heater in CD36 cutter?

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Bill Cochrane wrote: Contemplating putting a cabin heater (probably diesel) in my CD-36, and the only location that seems remotely useable is on the shelf (or adjacent bulkhead) atop the locker at the forward end of the starboard setee. Strikes me that it's too high for good heat circulation, and the resulting short stack wouldn't draw well. Can't use the portside bulkhead behind the head, since the boat is fitted with the bulkhead-mounted folding table. What have others done?
I can't address the issue from experience, as Eendracht has an Espar. But I wonder if there might be room below the table on the bulkhead?

Warren



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chuck yahrling

Re: Best spot for cabin heater in CD36 cutter?

Post by chuck yahrling »

Warren Stringer wrote:
Bill Cochrane wrote: Contemplating putting a cabin heater (probably diesel) in my CD-36, and the only location that seems remotely useable is on the shelf (or adjacent bulkhead) atop the locker at the forward end of the starboard setee. Strikes me that it's too high for good heat circulation, and the resulting short stack wouldn't draw well. Can't use the portside bulkhead behind the head, since the boat is fitted with the bulkhead-mounted folding table. What have others done?
I can't address the issue from experience, as Eendracht has an Espar. But I wonder if there might be room below the table on the bulkhead?

Warren
Don't know about A CD-36, but space was a big issue in my CD-27. I was also not thrilled with the idea of a smoke stack. The ESPAR solves all those problems, and runs right off the diesel in the engine fuel tank. But, it is a bit pricey ($1700 for the kit.)



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John

What's an ESPAR?

Post by John »

chuck yahrling wrote: >
I am looking for a heating alternative to the current setup on my CD31, and had been thinking of something that uses diesel fuel. Had not yet discovered an ESPAR. What is it?
chuck yahrling wrote:
Warren Stringer wrote:
Bill Cochrane wrote: Contemplating putting a cabin heater (probably diesel) in my CD-36, and the only location that seems remotely useable is on the shelf (or adjacent bulkhead) atop the locker at the forward end of the starboard setee. Strikes me that it's too high for good heat circulation, and the resulting short stack wouldn't draw well. Can't use the portside bulkhead behind the head, since the boat is fitted with the bulkhead-mounted folding table. What have others done?
I can't address the issue from experience, as Eendracht has an Espar. But I wonder if there might be room below the table on the bulkhead?

Warren
Don't know about A CD-36, but space was a big issue in my CD-27. I was also not thrilled with the idea of a smoke stack. The ESPAR solves all those problems, and runs right off the diesel in the engine fuel tank. But, it is a bit pricey ($1700 for the kit.)


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chuck yahrling

Re: What's an ESPAR?

Post by chuck yahrling »

John wrote:
chuck yahrling wrote: >
I am looking for a heating alternative to the current setup on my CD31, and had been thinking of something that uses diesel fuel. Had not yet discovered an ESPAR. What is it?
chuck yahrling wrote:
Warren Stringer wrote: I can't address the issue from experience, as Eendracht has an Espar. But I wonder if there might be room below the table on the bulkhead?

Warren
Don't know about A CD-36, but space was a big issue in my CD-27. I was also not thrilled with the idea of a smoke stack. The ESPAR solves all those problems, and runs right off the diesel in the engine fuel tank. But, it is a bit pricey ($1700 for the kit.)
It's a brand of diesel heater that's made in Germany, originally for trucks and cars. A few outfits offer them for boats, as the stainless construction, small size and transom-exit exhaust make for a nice installation in some out-of-the-way place like a cockpit locker or lazarette.

check out this url for more info.
http://www.sfsailing.com/edinger/espar.html

I got my kit from an outfit in New England, which packages a complete kit.



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Matt Cawthorne

Re: Best spot for cabin heater in CD36 cutter?

Post by Matt Cawthorne »

Bill, I put a force 10 kerosene/diesel heater in the spot that you are talking about. I put the fuel tank under the corner locker which is in back (outboard) of the shelf. The heater is mounted outboard a little bit so no one will get burned by brushing by it. The 1 inch tube smoke stack is bent in a gentle curve to bring it farther from the cabin sides which brings it closer to the dorade box. If you run the heater full blast the top of the shelf gets very warm. I intend to make two heat shields. One will be held in place by the dog on the opening port the other will sit on the shelf. In the mean time I find that If I set a small battery powered fan on the top of the hanging locker and face it aft the air is circulated well and the cabin sides stay cool. I set a lid from a cooking pot on the shelf and it stays cool. I also installed a carbon monoxide detector. The CO detector has never gone off due to the heater. Be careful to seal up the deck core material where the stack goes through. We wouldn't want deck rot!
Good luck.
Matt
C.D. 36 'Patricia Louise'

Bill Cochrane wrote: Contemplating putting a cabin heater (probably diesel) in my CD-36, and the only location that seems remotely useable is on the shelf (or adjacent bulkhead) atop the locker at the forward end of the starboard setee. Strikes me that it's too high for good heat circulation, and the resulting short stack wouldn't draw well. Can't use the portside bulkhead behind the head, since the boat is fitted with the bulkhead-mounted folding table. What have others done?


mcawthor@bellatlantic.net
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