Hello,
We sailed with a genoa for the first time on Sunday on Long Island Sound (yes, I a newby -- new typhoon owner in my first sailing season!)
The genoa is about a 165% (I bought it used and that's what they had). It was a bit awkward at first, but we managed a little better by the end of the day. Running--broad reach was difficult with this sail, harder than usual (running is mmy least favorite point of sail anyway).
Would a smaller genoa of 130 or 135% be easier to handle? Does bigger = better light air performance?
thanks, this list is such a great resource!
Laura
s/v Harmony
lac@oup-usa.org
Typhoon: Genoa size question
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Chris Stump
Re: Typhoon: Genoa size question
Hi from a fellow first year Typhoon owner!
I envy you your new genoa...only have the main and working jib.
That's quite a sail you have there...yes a 130% would be less sail to "handle", but also less performance in light air, which is exactly what you have the genoa for.
What was "awkward" and "difficult" about using the genoa? It may be an obvious question, but do you have the sheets running through fairleads on the genoa track? (Not through the ones up on the cabin top, I hope?)
As far as I know you should be able to use it on all points of sail! (Below 15-20 knots, that is!)
Enjoy...
Chris
cstump@ctel.net
I envy you your new genoa...only have the main and working jib.
That's quite a sail you have there...yes a 130% would be less sail to "handle", but also less performance in light air, which is exactly what you have the genoa for.
What was "awkward" and "difficult" about using the genoa? It may be an obvious question, but do you have the sheets running through fairleads on the genoa track? (Not through the ones up on the cabin top, I hope?)
As far as I know you should be able to use it on all points of sail! (Below 15-20 knots, that is!)
Enjoy...
Chris
Hello,
We sailed with a genoa for the first time on Sunday on Long Island Sound (yes, I a newby -- new typhoon owner in my first sailing season!)
The genoa is about a 165% (I bought it used and that's what they had). It was a bit awkward at first, but we managed a little better by the end of the day. Running--broad reach was difficult with this sail, harder than usual (running is mmy least favorite point of sail anyway).
Would a smaller genoa of 130 or 135% be easier to handle? Does bigger = better light air performance?
thanks, this list is such a great resource!
Laura
s/v Harmony
cstump@ctel.net
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Richard Stephens
Re: Typhoon: Genoa size question
Laura,
I have two headsails on my Weekender: the original working jib (100%) and a roller-furling genoa of about 130%. The furler is of an old-fashioned kind that rolls around the luff-wire built into the sail. This kind of furler can not be used to reef - I have to drop it and hank on the working jib when the wind gets up.
My experience is that the working jib is, in fact, a much more versatile sail than the genoa. Going to windward, the working jib (sheeted on the cabintop) allows you to point a lot higher, and it doesn't take much breeze to get her moving. Even in a light wind, I think the better pointing angle more than makes up for the difference in sail area.
Reaching and running, of course, the sail area does make a big difference.
This has been on my mind because I am thinking about getting a new suit of sails. I am leaning towards getting a 100% jib together with an asymmetrical spinnaker, flown from the masthead, for reaching and running in light winds. But maybe the spinnaker would be more trouble than it is worth!!!
Regards,
Richard
(Typhoon "Blue Diamond")
rstephens@alexusa.com
I have two headsails on my Weekender: the original working jib (100%) and a roller-furling genoa of about 130%. The furler is of an old-fashioned kind that rolls around the luff-wire built into the sail. This kind of furler can not be used to reef - I have to drop it and hank on the working jib when the wind gets up.
My experience is that the working jib is, in fact, a much more versatile sail than the genoa. Going to windward, the working jib (sheeted on the cabintop) allows you to point a lot higher, and it doesn't take much breeze to get her moving. Even in a light wind, I think the better pointing angle more than makes up for the difference in sail area.
Reaching and running, of course, the sail area does make a big difference.
This has been on my mind because I am thinking about getting a new suit of sails. I am leaning towards getting a 100% jib together with an asymmetrical spinnaker, flown from the masthead, for reaching and running in light winds. But maybe the spinnaker would be more trouble than it is worth!!!
Regards,
Richard
(Typhoon "Blue Diamond")
rstephens@alexusa.com
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Paul D.
Re: Typhoon: Genoa size question
Laura,
I agree with Richard that the 100% or Working Jib is a more versatile sail on the typhoon. I just went for a lovely sail today with my old 100% on and even in the light breeze it moves the boat. I only use my genoa, which looks to be about a 150%, during less than about 8 knots of wind, and lead the sheets outside the shrouds aft to the toerails. It does rub when we tack but not painfully. If you have only the genoa I would indeed keep it but get a 100%.
Additionally, I have found that my spinnaker, which came with the boat, works really well as a cruising spinnaker from a beam reach to a run without a pole. I rig a downhaul through the bow chock to the tack of the sail and tie a sail tie through the tack around the forestay. Run the sheets through the genoa blocks on the toerails, pull up the halyard and we fly down wind. Ease the downhaul to raise the tack for runs and trim the downhaul and the sheet to reach. We passed a 26 footer once, a feat we were quite proud of! This set up is a little more work than poling out a genoa but we have fun with it.
Good Luck with yours,
Paul Danicic
HORNET
MPLS MN
nyeme001@tc.umn.edu
I agree with Richard that the 100% or Working Jib is a more versatile sail on the typhoon. I just went for a lovely sail today with my old 100% on and even in the light breeze it moves the boat. I only use my genoa, which looks to be about a 150%, during less than about 8 knots of wind, and lead the sheets outside the shrouds aft to the toerails. It does rub when we tack but not painfully. If you have only the genoa I would indeed keep it but get a 100%.
Additionally, I have found that my spinnaker, which came with the boat, works really well as a cruising spinnaker from a beam reach to a run without a pole. I rig a downhaul through the bow chock to the tack of the sail and tie a sail tie through the tack around the forestay. Run the sheets through the genoa blocks on the toerails, pull up the halyard and we fly down wind. Ease the downhaul to raise the tack for runs and trim the downhaul and the sheet to reach. We passed a 26 footer once, a feat we were quite proud of! This set up is a little more work than poling out a genoa but we have fun with it.
Good Luck with yours,
Paul Danicic
HORNET
MPLS MN
nyeme001@tc.umn.edu