Standing rigging for Typhoon

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osteomark
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Standing rigging for Typhoon

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After getting my typhoon in the water for 1 day of sailing on Columbus Day, and then hauling her out 5 days later without sailing her :cry: I noticed my port lower shroud was hanging on by about 5 cables :oops: and the starboard upper shroud had 2 broken cables I'm out to get 4 new shrouds. After close inspection the head and back stay are fine. I have no idea how old the shrouds are. How long should they last. I only sail May-Sept on Lake Ontario.
Where's the best and cheapest place to get the work done.
I called WestMarine Rigging and its about $322 with new turnbuckles and swages.
Can one do the work ones self or it that too dangerous. I understand the swages have to be machine pressed to stay on the cable.

I hope you don't mind me posting some photos of my first ever sail with "Kari". I'm just trying to figure out the way to post pics. Photobucket works well.

Thanks,

Mark
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Post by osteomark »

Ok photobucket works best for me.

Mark
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Rigging Options

Post by bottomscraper »

You can use either machine swaged ends that must be done on specialized machines or you can do them yourself with mechanical terminals (Sta-Lok, Norseman, Hi-Mod etc).

We have replaced all of our standing rigging using STA-LOK mechanical fittings. I put together a web page showing how it's done.

Installing Sta-Loks Web Page

It's not that hard, measure twice, cut once!

I get most of my rigging supplies from Rigging Only. They will also do machine swaged ends for you if you prefer to go that route. It may be a bit cheaper to use machine swaged ends. We had them make us new lifelines using machine swaged fittings.
Rich Abato
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Previous Owner Of CD36 Mahalo #163

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Post by osteomark »

Rich,

I talked to Rigging place and they think about 280 bucks including the shroud boots.

I'll look at your website. I'm up for making the shrouds if I can. Got all winter in NY.

Thanks,

Mark
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Ask Tom, and follow his advice. . .

Post by Duncan Maio »

Mark,

I agree with Rich - swaged or Sta-Lok, you can go either way. Some folk think the preferred method is to have the top fitting machine swaged, since (a) you can't inspect it and (b) it's pointing down, so water won't collect in it anyway, and use mechanical fittings on the bottom, where you can get to them.

Tom at Rigging Only will make you new shrouds, or he will sell you the parts at a good price, and he will give you the pros and cons. He has opinions, likes and dislikes, as would anyone who's been in the business for about a million years (three generations, I think).
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Post by osteomark »

Duncan,

So RIgging Only could just do the machines top swages and I could do the rest? I wonder if I sent the original shrouds if they could cut the correct length and I could to the sta lock at the bottom for a price under 200 bucks.

Mark
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Post by Duncan Maio »

As I said, Talk to Tom, and follow his advice. I don't know which method will be least expensive, or easiest for you, or most precise. I suspect that the happy medium is either to buy all the parts and a length of wire rope and do it all your self, or have the top swages done and rough lengths done, and cut exact lengths and do the bottom ends yourself.

Just my guess, though. It might be cheaper to do machine swages all around, especially given the time frame involved. Ask Tom.
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Fine looking 1st mate!

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I especially like the shot of the "flexed bicep action" hauling on the jib sheet.
Aloha,

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Post by osteomark »

Duncan,

Tom from Rigging Only said to have the top machine swaged and the rest I do would actually be 16 bucks more expensive than him doing the whole shroud.

Guess I'll let him do the whole thing

Mark
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