Speaking of moustaches...

Discussions about Cape Dory, Intrepid and Robinhood sailboats and how we use them. Got questions? Have answers? Provide them here.

Moderator: Jim Walsh

Post Reply
Don Sargeant

Speaking of moustaches...

Post by Don Sargeant »

Larry DeMers' sandbag posts reminds me...
Does anyone have a cure for the diesel moustache that accumulates on the transom? Or if you can't cure it, how do you clean it? My exhaust in in the water when underway also but I didn't realize that was the cause. My Weterbeked 25D squats too and I've thought of trimming with some lead pigs I have leftover from the days of linotype but didn't realize it might help the moustache. I, however, would expect any hobby-horsing to increase due to the extra weight out at the ends of the boat.
Don Sargeant
~~COQUINA~~
CD25D #189
Greenwich Cove



don@cliggott.com
Ed Roberts

Re: Speaking of moustaches...

Post by Ed Roberts »

Don Sargeant wrote: Does anyone have a cure for the diesel moustache
I am very fond of FSR (Fiberglass Stain Remover) This is a jellied oxalic acid in a screw-top jar that is applied with a cheap paint brush, then rinsed or brushed off. Works beautifully and simple and easy to use. At West Marine and others.



edwardroberts@sprintmail.com
Ken Coit

Re: Speaking of moustaches...

Post by Ken Coit »

The Island Packet discussion group addresses the smokin' diesel question quite often. The bottom line seems to be to use a prop that will allow the engine to reach the 1 hour maximum RPM rating and to run the engine normally at the constant service RPM rating. I don;t know what Nigel Calder has to say on the subject, but the discussion group is more fun than even his good books.

If you are interested in the discussion group, you can reach it and subscribe through:

http://www.sailnet.com

and

http://www.sailnet.com/list/index.htm

There is a Cape Dory discussion group there as well.

Good luck!

Ken Coit
CD-14
CD-30 or 36 wannabe (soon)

Don Sargeant wrote: Larry DeMers' sandbag posts reminds me...
Does anyone have a cure for the diesel moustache that accumulates on the transom? Or if you can't cure it, how do you clean it? My exhaust in in the water when underway also but I didn't realize that was the cause. My Weterbeked 25D squats too and I've thought of trimming with some lead pigs I have leftover from the days of linotype but didn't realize it might help the moustache. I, however, would expect any hobby-horsing to increase due to the extra weight out at the ends of the boat.
Don Sargeant
~~COQUINA~~
CD25D #189
Greenwich Cove


ken-shelley.coit@worldnet.att.net
Don Sargeant

Re: Speaking of moustaches...

Post by Don Sargeant »

My moustache is not a result of a "smoking" diesel, it's just whatever exhaust stuff that naturally comes out sticks to the transom because of the Kamm effect while underway. I've heard of FSR, but prefer Y-10, but if it can be prevented, it doesn't have to be removed.
Don Sargeant
~~COQUINA~~


Ken Coit wrote: The Island Packet discussion group addresses the smokin' diesel question quite often. The bottom line seems to be to use a prop that will allow the engine to reach the 1 hour maximum RPM rating and to run the engine normally at the constant service RPM rating. I don;t know what Nigel Calder has to say on the subject, but the discussion group is more fun than even his good books.

If you are interested in the discussion group, you can reach it and subscribe through:

http://www.sailnet.com

and

http://www.sailnet.com/list/index.htm

There is a Cape Dory discussion group there as well.

Good luck!

Ken Coit
CD-14
CD-30 or 36 wannabe (soon)

Don Sargeant wrote: Larry DeMers' sandbag posts reminds me...
Does anyone have a cure for the diesel moustache that accumulates on the transom? Or if you can't cure it, how do you clean it? My exhaust in in the water when underway also but I didn't realize that was the cause. My Weterbeked 25D squats too and I've thought of trimming with some lead pigs I have leftover from the days of linotype but didn't realize it might help the moustache. I, however, would expect any hobby-horsing to increase due to the extra weight out at the ends of the boat.
Don Sargeant
~~COQUINA~~
CD25D #189
Greenwich Cove


don@cliggott.com
Walt Bilofsky

Removing moustaches...

Post by Walt Bilofsky »

My experience is that any combination fiberglass cleaner/wax will readily remove the diesel soot from my transom, and wax it too. One pass takes most of the stuff off but you do need to go back and do a second pass where it didn't all come off. It doesn't take any special rubbing - seems to just dissolve it.



bilofsky@toolworks.com
Larry DeMers

Re: De-Moustache Your Transom..easy!!

Post by Larry DeMers »

Hey guys,

We found something that worked, due to 8 years of having the dirtiest transom in the county/lake/world...

There is a product that our old marina carries called Black Streak Remover. It's a gelation spray. You spray it on, leave it alone for 1 minute..no less. Then take a damp sponge and wash the moustache off.
THis works every single time for us, and it takes maybe 2-3 minutes total. We do it as we take the dinghy to the storage area in the marina.
We make certain that we have three coats of teflon wax on the stern in the spring, and then the exhaust does not get in to the pores of the gelcoat. We had problems with this previously, which always left a grey smudge mark on the stern. Compounding and then waxing 3 coats cleaned it up and made it shine, and it was protected from diesel exhaust too. Now with the boat on her lines, we get just a small line after motoring all day crossing Superior in a glass smooth spell of weather.

Cheers!

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer

Don Sargeant wrote: Larry DeMers' sandbag posts reminds me...
Does anyone have a cure for the diesel moustache that accumulates on the transom? Or if you can't cure it, how do you clean it? My exhaust in in the water when underway also but I didn't realize that was the cause. My Weterbeked 25D squats too and I've thought of trimming with some lead pigs I have leftover from the days of linotype but didn't realize it might help the moustache. I, however, would expect any hobby-horsing to increase due to the extra weight out at the ends of the boat.
Don Sargeant
~~COQUINA~~
CD25D #189
Greenwich Cove


ldemers@win.bright.net ; demers@sgi.com
John Friday

Re: The solution

Post by John Friday »

Due probably to the general design of their transoms and the squat exibited underway, we see very few Cape Dorys that don't show signs of soot on their transoms (including my own CD 28). It sounds like you have several good suggestions on how to remove the black. I've found the solution to keeping the transom clean is by adding a six inch piece of marine water exhaust hose to the boat's bronze transom exhaust fitting. There is just enough of a lip on the fitting for a hose clamp. Let me know if this solution works for you too.

Best of Luck,

John Friday
Custom Yacht Service, Inc.
Irvington, VA 22480
Don Sargeant wrote: ~~COQUINA~~
CD25D #189
Greenwich Cove


customyacht@rivnet.net
Post Reply