CD28 versus CD30
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CD28 versus CD30
I have been seriously looking at the 28-30' CDs and would like some opinions and comparisons from owners. Help me in deciding if the extra two feet is worth the difference in price/performance. Where is the two feet lost on the CD28, cabin or cockpit ?
Thanks from a potential buyer.
ron.kallenberg@teradyne.com
Thanks from a potential buyer.
ron.kallenberg@teradyne.com
Re: CD28 versus CD30
>>Where is the two feet lost on the CD28, cabin or cockpit ?<<
Don't forget that more length gives you more beam, too. The extra width is in the cabin. Also, the extra length in the waterline will give you extra boat speed.
What sort of sailing will you be doing? Family situation? # of people likely to be on board overnight?
Regards, Neil
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Cape Dory 28 #167
neil@nrgordon.com
Don't forget that more length gives you more beam, too. The extra width is in the cabin. Also, the extra length in the waterline will give you extra boat speed.
What sort of sailing will you be doing? Family situation? # of people likely to be on board overnight?
Regards, Neil
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Cape Dory 28 #167
neil@nrgordon.com
Re: CD28 versus CD30
RonNeil Gordon wrote: >>Where is the two feet lost on the CD28, cabin or cockpit ?<<
Don't forget that more length gives you more beam, too. The extra width is in the cabin. Also, the extra length in the waterline will give you extra boat speed.
What sort of sailing will you be doing? Family situation? # of people likely to be on board overnight?
Neil, thanks for the quick response. I will be sailing mostly with only my wife who is only along for the ride, thus I will be mostly single handed. I plan to sail along the coast of New England and will take weekend and 1-2 week vacations. I will have my adult children along for short visits and day sails but mostly just my wife and I. We have had some 15 yrs of large lake sailing and now we're hopefully ready for the salt. Cruising is my desire not driving for water over the rail. Need stability to give my wife confidence or I will be backing down to sailing a Sun fish on the local pond !!
Neil Gordon wrote: Regards, Neil
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Cape Dory 28 #167
ron.kallenberg@teradyne.com
Re: CD28 versus CD30
Your family situation is similar to mine. We mostly sail/cruise with just the two of us and only have more that that for day sails. I find the CD28 a really good two person cruiser... it's easy to singlehand... I can reach the main sheet and both winches without leaving the tiller... and taking the main up and down she just sits quietly while I go forward to the mast.
There's enough boat to make your wife feel safe. We sailed from Plymouth to Provincetown last year with 20-25 kts from the south. That put the wind and waves right on the stbd beam. We flew (better than 6 kts average, including my bad steering) but it was a comfy ride at a steady 15 degrees of heel, even with 3-4 ft seas on the beam. Other sailors were coming into the marina and kissing the dock when they landed.
>>I plan to sail along the coast of New England ...<<
Where will you keep the boat? We're at Marina Bay on Boston Harbor and take a week or so cruising every year, in addition to day trips and weekend overnights.
Regards, Neil
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Cape Dory 28 #167
neil@nrgordon.com
There's enough boat to make your wife feel safe. We sailed from Plymouth to Provincetown last year with 20-25 kts from the south. That put the wind and waves right on the stbd beam. We flew (better than 6 kts average, including my bad steering) but it was a comfy ride at a steady 15 degrees of heel, even with 3-4 ft seas on the beam. Other sailors were coming into the marina and kissing the dock when they landed.
>>I plan to sail along the coast of New England ...<<
Where will you keep the boat? We're at Marina Bay on Boston Harbor and take a week or so cruising every year, in addition to day trips and weekend overnights.
Regards, Neil
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Cape Dory 28 #167
neil@nrgordon.com
Re: CD28 versus CD30
Ron,
Not much differance between the boats in size, mostly the 30 is a little bigger in the gally, with room for an oven, and as I recall it has a lazaret. The cockpits and the rest of the accomidations are about the same. The exception would be a "B" mdl, that has a forward head, where the "V" birth was, and a real nav station.
From what I'v seen, the 28 sails as well if not better than the 30. The cutter rig is, I think a bit mutch on the 30. It requires too mutch messing around for day sailing.
Kim
CD-28
Williwaw
Williwaw@worldnet.att.net
Not much differance between the boats in size, mostly the 30 is a little bigger in the gally, with room for an oven, and as I recall it has a lazaret. The cockpits and the rest of the accomidations are about the same. The exception would be a "B" mdl, that has a forward head, where the "V" birth was, and a real nav station.
From what I'v seen, the 28 sails as well if not better than the 30. The cutter rig is, I think a bit mutch on the 30. It requires too mutch messing around for day sailing.
Kim
CD-28
Williwaw
Williwaw@worldnet.att.net
Re: CD28 versus CD30
Some in the galley, a tad aft of the cockpit, a tad in the settee area. The cockpits are identical in size. The 28 has very slightly more headroom in the forward area of the cabin. I owned a 28 which I purchased after looking at several 30's, A & B models. We recently started looking again, and 30's were included. My personal opinion is that the 28 is just as much boat unless you intend to bake bread (an oven is included), or you intend long offshore passages for which the cutter rig may have some advantage. Both are great boats. Your preference for rig and the way you'll use it will be the determining factors.Ron wrote: I have been seriously looking at the 28-30' CDs and would like some opinions and comparisons from owners. Help me in deciding if the extra two feet is worth the difference in price/performance. Where is the two feet lost on the CD28, cabin or cockpit ?
Finally, model year can be a factor with both. That is, the interior of the 28 changed in about '81; the engine in both changed in the early 80's as well, and in regard to the 30 my personal preference would be the Universal 18 instead of the V drive Volvo.
Best wishes.
Joe
Ron wrote: Thanks from a potential buyer.
sankey@gulftel.com
Ron - How about coming to Onset on Saturday??
Ron - This Saturday is the first New England Cape Dory Owners Rendezvous in Onset MA. If your schedule allows this might be the perfect opportunity to see some 28' and 30' side-by-side and talk to the owners. Of the 32 boats scheduled to attend I have three 27', five 28' and five 30'. Please give me a call if you are interested in joining us. We have a breakfast buffet on Saturday ($5.50) and Sunday ($5.50)mornings, plus a BBQ on Saturday evening ($9.50) following a group sail in Buzzards Bay. If you are interested please give me a call ASAP so I can adjust my caterer order.
Chris Reinke
CD330 - Innisfail
508-295-7626
Chris Reinke
CD330 - Innisfail
508-295-7626
ron wrote:RonNeil Gordon wrote: >>Where is the two feet lost on the CD28, cabin or cockpit ?<<
Don't forget that more length gives you more beam, too. The extra width is in the cabin. Also, the extra length in the waterline will give you extra boat speed.
What sort of sailing will you be doing? Family situation? # of people likely to be on board overnight?
Neil, thanks for the quick response. I will be sailing mostly with only my wife who is only along for the ride, thus I will be mostly single handed. I plan to sail along the coast of New England and will take weekend and 1-2 week vacations. I will have my adult children along for short visits and day sails but mostly just my wife and I. We have had some 15 yrs of large lake sailing and now we're hopefully ready for the salt. Cruising is my desire not driving for water over the rail. Need stability to give my wife confidence or I will be backing down to sailing a Sun fish on the local pond !!
Neil Gordon wrote: Regards, Neil
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Cape Dory 28 #167
Re: Ron - How about coming to Onset on Saturday??
Chris, I am planning to visit Onset but since I am coming by road from 80+ miles away, I can not count on being there for any specific time. I appreciate the invitation and hope I can do the comparison. I will be looking for some of the nice folks that have given me advice. This is definitely one of the best groups and supporting the interest of a great boat !! I hope to be a proud owner soon.Chris Reinke wrote: Ron - This Saturday is the first New England Cape Dory Owners Rendezvous in Onset MA. If your schedule allows this might be the perfect opportunity to see some 28' and 30' side-by-side and talk to the owners. Of the 32 boats scheduled to attend I have three 27', five 28' and five 30'. Please give me a call if you are interested in joining us. We have a breakfast buffet on Saturday ($5.50) and Sunday ($5.50)mornings, plus a BBQ on Saturday evening ($9.50) following a group sail in Buzzards Bay. If you are interested please give me a call ASAP so I can adjust my caterer order.
Ron
Chris Reinke wrote: Chris Reinke
CD330 - Innisfail
508-295-7626
ron wrote:RonNeil Gordon wrote: >>Where is the two feet lost on the CD28, cabin or cockpit ?<<
Don't forget that more length gives you more beam, too. The extra width is in the cabin. Also, the extra length in the waterline will give you extra boat speed.
What sort of sailing will you be doing? Family situation? # of people likely to be on board overnight?
Neil, thanks for the quick response. I will be sailing mostly with only my wife who is only along for the ride, thus I will be mostly single handed. I plan to sail along the coast of New England and will take weekend and 1-2 week vacations. I will have my adult children along for short visits and day sails but mostly just my wife and I. We have had some 15 yrs of large lake sailing and now we're hopefully ready for the salt. Cruising is my desire not driving for water over the rail. Need stability to give my wife confidence or I will be backing down to sailing a Sun fish on the local pond !!
Neil Gordon wrote: Regards, Neil
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Cape Dory 28 #167
ron.kallenberg@teradyne.com
Re: CD28 versus CD30
Neil, where I sail will be dictated initially by where I buy. The cape is appealing because of all the good sailing areas and relatively warm waters. The coast of Maine is appealing because of the wealth of island and harbors to visit but the water is a tad cooler. Do you recommend any area ? Are the Boston islands desirable or are the waters too busy ?Neil Gordon wrote: Where will you keep the boat? We're at Marina Bay on Boston Harbor and take a week or so cruising every year, in addition to day trips and weekend overnights.
Regards, Neil
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Cape Dory 28 #167
Ron
ron.kallenberg@teradyne.com
Re: CD28 versus CD30
>>Do you recommend any area ?<<
I'd try to be as close to the boat as possible.
Boston Harbor and its islands are not too busy to enjoy. There's lots of good day sailing and nice anchorages among the islands. Good for guests, too, since each island has its own history, etc., which keeps them interested aside from the sailing.
Regards, Neil
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Cape Dory 28 #167
neil@nrgordon.com
I'd try to be as close to the boat as possible.
Boston Harbor and its islands are not too busy to enjoy. There's lots of good day sailing and nice anchorages among the islands. Good for guests, too, since each island has its own history, etc., which keeps them interested aside from the sailing.
Regards, Neil
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Cape Dory 28 #167
neil@nrgordon.com
Re: Ron - How about coming to Onset on Saturday??
Chris
For those of us in the warmer latitudes (Florida) who will miss the Onset Rendezvous, we hope that some of you will take loads of pictures of the boats AND of the people, and put them on a Web page, so that we can then really get to know the sailors we have been corresponding with all this time. It should be a treat! Hope you all have a great weekend!
Zeida
zcecil@ibm.net
For those of us in the warmer latitudes (Florida) who will miss the Onset Rendezvous, we hope that some of you will take loads of pictures of the boats AND of the people, and put them on a Web page, so that we can then really get to know the sailors we have been corresponding with all this time. It should be a treat! Hope you all have a great weekend!
Zeida
zcecil@ibm.net
Re: CD28 versus CD30
I've owned a CD28 since 1978, my wife and I cruised the Pacific for two years and the only changes we made on our CD28 was in the galley in which we added a two burner stove with oven and alot more storage. We also removed the sink in the head and put in a hanging locker. On the whole the CD28 turned out to be a great cruising boat for two people, to bad it doesn't have a quarterberth.
Larry Duke
CD28 LEVON
Oakland,CA.
LDuke2522@aol.com
Larry Duke
CD28 LEVON
Oakland,CA.
LDuke2522@aol.com
CD 28
Hi Larry, how did you fit the stove and oven in your CD 28? Where have you cruised in the Pacific? Thanks, Tom Young
fish@mint.net
fish@mint.net