Epifanes wood finish gloss

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Nov 10th, '05, 20:01

Now that the sailing season is over it's time to start working on the winter projects beginning with refinishing the teak on a 78 TY weekender. I have all of the wood prepared except the rub rails. I would like to retain the natural color of teak and am considering using Epifanes Wood Finish Gloss however I don't know that this will give me the color(or lack of color) I'm looking for. When Epifanes Wood Finish Gloss is applied to teak what is the resulting color? Any pics?Thanks

dasein668 · Post by **dasein668** » Nov 10th, '05, 20:09

In my experience the Wood Finish Gloss's final finish is virtually indistinguishable from the standard Epifanes Spar Varnish.

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Sandy D. · Post by **Sandy D.** » Nov 10th, '05, 23:49

Beautiful boat Nathan.

dasein668 · Post by **dasein668** » Nov 11th, '05, 00:02

Thank you!

Carter Brey · Post by **Carter Brey** » Nov 11th, '05, 00:15

I agree with Nathan-- this product looks like spar varnish. I used it for two seasons and was very pleased.

Damn, Nathan. Dasein looks kickass.

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Dick Barthel · Post by **Dick Barthel** » Nov 11th, '05, 06:42

Nathan,

How much head room do you have in Dasin with that raised doghouse? She sure is beautiful with the contrasting colors and great teak.

Dick

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Nov 11th, '05, 08:46

Nathan,
Thanks for the reply and picture -beautiful boat. Tom

dasein668 · Post by **dasein668** » Nov 11th, '05, 09:14

Dick Barthel wrote:How much head room do you have in Dasin with that raised doghouse? She sure is beautiful with the contrasting colors and great teak.

Thanks. I'm quite proud of how she turned out after working nearly full time on her last winter. Note that the "teak" is actually mahogany, though!

As for headroom, I haven't measured, but based on my height (5' 10") and the overhead clearance, I would say that it's probably just about 6 feet in the main saloon. Forward in the head area I have to just duck my head, so something in the neighborhood of 5' 9" I would guess.

Dick Barthel · Post by **Dick Barthel** » Nov 11th, '05, 09:38

Carter wrote:

I agree with Nathan-- this product looks like spar varnish. I used it for two seasons and was very pleased.

What would the reason be for picking the Epifanes Wood Finish Gloss over the Epifanes Spar Varnish? Is it the look? Do they both have similar UV protection properties?

Dick

dasein668 · Post by **dasein668** » Nov 11th, '05, 10:10

The only real reason that I can see is that the Wood Finish Gloss is a no-sand product when recoated within (if I recall correctly) 72 hours. This lets you build up base coats quite quickly with less hassle. With my coamings I applied about 5 coats in a week then sanded them heavily to flatten them before applying 3 or 4 more coats with sanding between.

They seem to have similar UV resistant properties. At least, here in Maine I can't see any difference between the two.

Stan W. · Post by **Stan W.** » Nov 11th, '05, 10:17

Dick Barthel wrote:What would the reason be for picking the Epifanes Wood Finish Gloss over the Epifanes Spar Varnish? Is it the look? Do they both have similar UV protection properties?

WFG is specially formulated to adhere to teak and it "breathes" somewhat like Cetol or Armada. As I have said before, however, it is not a "slap on three coats and your done" product like Cetol or Armada. It still needs six or seven coats like varnish.

The other advantage is that, in theory, you do not have to sand between coats as you do with varnish. In practice, I doubt you will be able to apply six or seven coats without having some "holidays" that need sanding. I know I can't.

I do not agree that WFG is "indistinguishable" from varnish but it's close enough for most people. I started experimenting with it this season and so far I am very pleased.

Lee Kaufman · Post by **Lee Kaufman** » Nov 12th, '05, 20:52

Let me add what you already know . . .

BEAUTIFUL BOAT

Dick Barthel · Post by **Dick Barthel** » Nov 17th, '05, 08:37

Spurred on by this thread I went to the Epifanes website and found out you could get a CD from them with a lot of info on all their products including usage tips. My CD within a week.

One thing you learn is Epifanes (EPEE-FAWN-US) is the greek word for Epiphany. Definitely a high end product line to include great brushes,etc.

Dick

Russell Skinner · Post by **Russell Skinner** » Nov 17th, '05, 10:28

I redid my teak with it last year and am really pleased. However, one lesson I learned was you really need to put a bunch of coats on. In the spring I only got three coats on, telling myself I'd put more on later, of course I didn't and it stared to were off by the end of July. I'm in Virginia, so the UV is intense. I'd say 5 coats is what you need. No sanding within 72 hours is wonderful and it looks absolutely great!

Go for it.

Russell Skinner · Post by **Russell Skinner** » Nov 17th, '05, 10:29

I redid my teak with it last year and am really pleased. However, one lesson I learned was you really need to put a bunch of coats on. In the spring I only got three coats on, telling myself I'd put more on later, of course I didn't and it stared to were off by the end of July. I'm in Virginia, so the UV is intense. I'd say 5 coats is what you need. No sanding within 72 hours is wonderful and it looks absolutely great!

Go for it.

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