pronunciation

[JSS]

When referring to the cabin of a sailboat as the saloon, does one properly pronouce this like the place where one buys cheap whiskey and beer or like the place where the ladies go to have their hair done ?

[SeaBelle]

Where the ladies go.

[winthrop fisher]

well said...winthrop

Where the ladies go.

[Neil Gordon]

Where the ladies go.

Pronounce it however you like, I'm still gonna serve cheap whiskey and beer.

[Parfait's Provider]

Random House Webster's reports the following:

sa-loon (suh luen') n.
1. a place where alcoholic drinks are sold
and consumed.
2. a room or place for general use for a
specific purpose: the dining saloon on a
ship.
3. a large cabin for the common use of
passengers on a passenger vessel.
4. SALON (def. 1).
[1720-30; var. of SALON]

sa-lon (suh lon'; Fr. sA lôN') n. pl. <-lons>(-lonz'; Fr. -lôN')

1. a drawing room or reception room in a
large house.
2. an assembly of fashionable guests in such
a room, as leaders in society, politics,
and the arts, esp. as a regular event.
3. a hall or place used for the exhibition
of works of art.
4. a specialized shop, department of a
store, etc., usu. catering to
fashionable clients: a dress salon.
[1705-15; < F < It salone = sal (a) hall (< Gmc;
cf. OE sæl, OS seli, OHG sal, ON salr) + -one aug.
suffix]

Sounds to me that if it has to do with boats or alcohol, it is a suh luen'

I have often wondered about suit and suite, but I am not going to look it up now.

[Oswego John]

Hi Ken,

This board is certainly the place to discover new things. All along, I've been calling the salon a doghouse. Live and learn.

Glad you made it okay through the big blow.

Take care,

O J

[Parfait's Provider]

OJ,

Been in the doghouse when I wished I was in a saloon, but never a salon. Or was it that I got in the doghouse after leaving the saloon?

Looking forward to THE cruise.

[bill2]

FWIW I was told ( or read or ??? ) that a doghouse was " multi level " cabin roof line - think like a Vanguard or Triton as the model. Don't recall much else . . .

[Oswego John]

Hi bill2

You are probably correct. Throughout my entire life I have called things by their wrong name. Not only that, but I have fine tuned the knack of saying the wrong thing to my superiors on a regular basis.

At this point in life, I am trying to figure out if that is a curse or a blessing.

Have a good one,
O J

[Ed Haley]

Either way, it's where the ladies go!

[Neil Gordon]

Not only that, but I have fine tuned the knack of saying the wrong thing to my superiors on a regular basis.

You try to say the right thing to the right people at the right time. But to get it right, you have to get all three right. Any other combination and you get it wrong. The odds are way against you, that's all.

[Ed Haley]

Oswego John wrote:

Not only that, but I have fine tuned the knack of saying the wrong thing to my superiors on a regular basis.

John, as Fleet Captain Mike would say, "You have no superiors "

[Oswego John]

Hey guys,

Flattery will get you everywhere!

O J

[Tom Keevil]

Good Old Boat once had something about this. According to Ted Brewer, I think, the saloon on a ship predated the use of the term for bars. Bars started using it to make their places sound classier, and the pronunciation is the same. It has nothing to do with a salon.

[SeaBelle]

I said:

Where the ladies go.

Perhaps it was because I always heard it pronounced salon or perhaps they were not ladies.

Also, I thought a 'doghouse' was a like small hard dodger. Am I wrong here too?