I have to buy one so I figured that I would post the Q.
Would it be a tahatsu(?) 6hp 4 stroke?
John
What is best (new) motor for my Cape Dory 25?
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yup
Yup. Much discussion on this if you search the archives, but that is the hands down winner.
Let me know if you have problems getting it to fit. This summer I will try to take pix of how I did mine. There is often discussion on this, and I have tried to describe my method in words, but can't seem to keep it to less than "War and Peace" so I will let a photo speak a thousand words.
Good luck,
-Mathias
Let me know if you have problems getting it to fit. This summer I will try to take pix of how I did mine. There is often discussion on this, and I have tried to describe my method in words, but can't seem to keep it to less than "War and Peace" so I will let a photo speak a thousand words.
Good luck,
-Mathias
Sunset, CD25
Lake Champlain
Lake Champlain
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John D.
electric alternative?
While trying to answer the same question for my zodiac, I found this link, which I thought looked interesting for a cd25. No noise.
http://www.outboardelectric.org/brochure.pdf
http://www.outboardelectric.org/brochure.pdf
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DanaVin
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CD25 new outboard
Hi,
Saw your question and thought I'd throw my two cents in.
When it came time to get an engine for GE, I did a little research and the one that came up top in my search (in majority of items I had listed) was the Honda.
I went with the 5 h.p., four stroke, long shaft and alternator.
Recently, I've added the Power Thruster to the lower end which should give a bit more thrust and be somewhat more economical (from what I've been told and have read).
Even though the PO had raised the hood with some 2" pieces of teak, I found that the engine bogs down with the hood shut.
So, when leaving the marina and going up the channel, I tie the hood open about 1 1/2". That made a world of difference. It takes it up to almost 5 kts. and breathes a lot easier. I would imagine that all engines would be the same regardless of lower end exhaust. Not all of it goes out there. It helps to have at least 20 gallons of water in the forward holding tank, also.
Very tight fit, though, as the Honda has a larger hood, if I remember correctly. Took my wife all day just to move the mounting board forward. Her hands are a lot smaller than mine or I would have done that tedious job.
I'm not saying anything against the other brands; I'm sure they are fine. I needed one that could be serviced, if needed, in Mexico where I live half the year. Honda has a local dealer.
If interested, pictures can be seen at following website.
http://svGladysErzella.photosite.com
Hope this helps...and whatever you decide upon, , have a great and safe time sailing!
Dana
Saw your question and thought I'd throw my two cents in.
When it came time to get an engine for GE, I did a little research and the one that came up top in my search (in majority of items I had listed) was the Honda.
I went with the 5 h.p., four stroke, long shaft and alternator.
Recently, I've added the Power Thruster to the lower end which should give a bit more thrust and be somewhat more economical (from what I've been told and have read).
Even though the PO had raised the hood with some 2" pieces of teak, I found that the engine bogs down with the hood shut.
So, when leaving the marina and going up the channel, I tie the hood open about 1 1/2". That made a world of difference. It takes it up to almost 5 kts. and breathes a lot easier. I would imagine that all engines would be the same regardless of lower end exhaust. Not all of it goes out there. It helps to have at least 20 gallons of water in the forward holding tank, also.
Very tight fit, though, as the Honda has a larger hood, if I remember correctly. Took my wife all day just to move the mounting board forward. Her hands are a lot smaller than mine or I would have done that tedious job.
I'm not saying anything against the other brands; I'm sure they are fine. I needed one that could be serviced, if needed, in Mexico where I live half the year. Honda has a local dealer.
If interested, pictures can be seen at following website.
http://svGladysErzella.photosite.com
Hope this helps...and whatever you decide upon, , have a great and safe time sailing!
Dana
HONDA 5HP FOUR STROKE
I have repowered my CD25 with a Honda 5. This motor is absolutely perfect for my boat. I upgraded from a evenrude 4hp 2 stroke.
I had to move the motor mount forward about 2 inches in order to make room. I lost the great 360 turning radius of my smaller motor but the tradeoff is worth it. After moving the mount forward I eventually glasses over the mounting bracket.
This motor will push my boat at about 5 knots and 5 gallons of fuel will last a season. I was able to use this board before I upgraded for member feedback and if anyone needs help feel free to email me form12@comcast.net
I had to move the motor mount forward about 2 inches in order to make room. I lost the great 360 turning radius of my smaller motor but the tradeoff is worth it. After moving the mount forward I eventually glasses over the mounting bracket.
This motor will push my boat at about 5 knots and 5 gallons of fuel will last a season. I was able to use this board before I upgraded for member feedback and if anyone needs help feel free to email me form12@comcast.net
Do you Honda 5 users find....
Hi,
I have had a Honda 5 for a few years now and am quite happy with it except for two items:
1. the shear pin is quite touchy. I've sheared it a number of times while shifting even though the throttle was backed all the way down. If the engine is running even the slightest bit above dead slow idle it seems to be a risk. Someone told me that Honda had come out with a slightly stronger shear pin but I have not yet verified that with my dealer.
2a. the throttle limit in reverse, a safety feature to help prevent kick-up, can be annoying. Once I almost couldn't back my 1,600# boat out of a slip when my keel was in some weeds. It was only by working the stern side to side that the boat came free.
2b. I mounted the Honda temporarily on the transom of my Tartan 26 (5,200# displ) and found that with about a 10 knot wind blowing from astern the throttle limit almost prevented the boat from backing. The time it took to go from about 1/2 kt fwd to 1/2 kt astern was EXCRUCIATINGLY long because the engine was limited to about a fast idle in reverse. In this particular large, crowded marina I felt that such limited backing power was hazardous, should someone pull out of a slip into my path while I was motoring down the fairway.
Other than those two issues, I'm quite happy with the motor. I normally use it only on the small boat; the Tartan was a test. Anyone else find those items to be problematic?
[img]http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-TySage.jpg[/img]
I have had a Honda 5 for a few years now and am quite happy with it except for two items:
1. the shear pin is quite touchy. I've sheared it a number of times while shifting even though the throttle was backed all the way down. If the engine is running even the slightest bit above dead slow idle it seems to be a risk. Someone told me that Honda had come out with a slightly stronger shear pin but I have not yet verified that with my dealer.
2a. the throttle limit in reverse, a safety feature to help prevent kick-up, can be annoying. Once I almost couldn't back my 1,600# boat out of a slip when my keel was in some weeds. It was only by working the stern side to side that the boat came free.
2b. I mounted the Honda temporarily on the transom of my Tartan 26 (5,200# displ) and found that with about a 10 knot wind blowing from astern the throttle limit almost prevented the boat from backing. The time it took to go from about 1/2 kt fwd to 1/2 kt astern was EXCRUCIATINGLY long because the engine was limited to about a fast idle in reverse. In this particular large, crowded marina I felt that such limited backing power was hazardous, should someone pull out of a slip into my path while I was motoring down the fairway.
Other than those two issues, I'm quite happy with the motor. I normally use it only on the small boat; the Tartan was a test. Anyone else find those items to be problematic?
[img]http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-TySage.jpg[/img]
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DanaVin
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Honda 5
Hi,
Regarding the shear pin: I ran aground in some thick mud and rock on her first sail. (Please don't ask.) Completely stalled her out.
Anyway, I powered out of it and could feel some really good knocks on the prop. Never had a problem. I don't know anything about a newer, stronger shear pin. They can't make them too strong or they defeat the purpose.
As to speed against wind going backwards, well, I can't help you there much. I did it once and didn't have a lot of issues but circumstances and distances were probably a lot different.
One thing I did do is install the Power Thruster on her. I (hope) will have her in the water this week and will try it out. A friend on a Catalina 25 has one and he swears by the increased thrust. More econmomical, also, while cruising.
I report my findings after I get her out again.
Thanks
Dana
"Gladys Erzella"
1977 CD25
San Diego Bay
Regarding the shear pin: I ran aground in some thick mud and rock on her first sail. (Please don't ask.) Completely stalled her out.
Anyway, I powered out of it and could feel some really good knocks on the prop. Never had a problem. I don't know anything about a newer, stronger shear pin. They can't make them too strong or they defeat the purpose.
As to speed against wind going backwards, well, I can't help you there much. I did it once and didn't have a lot of issues but circumstances and distances were probably a lot different.
One thing I did do is install the Power Thruster on her. I (hope) will have her in the water this week and will try it out. A friend on a Catalina 25 has one and he swears by the increased thrust. More econmomical, also, while cruising.
I report my findings after I get her out again.
Thanks
Dana
"Gladys Erzella"
1977 CD25
San Diego Bay
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