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Duane Yoslov

CD330 Improvements

Post by Duane Yoslov »

Well I've been quiet on the page for a while...mostly because I've spent most of the summer engulfed in projects on the boat. I've recently completed several upgrades which have worked out very well and I thought I'd share them with all of you.

I won't go into too much detail, but please feel free to contact me if you'd like more info. on any of these changes.

*Removed the discontinued Nicro Fico mainsheet track with the hand pull stoppers and refit with a custom Schaefer 3:1 line control mainsheet traveler system.

*Installed Espar forced air diesel heater

*Added Spectra running back stays with 4:1 block and tackle (this was done to control mast pumping when reefed down and running only the staysail)

*Added masthead spinnacker bail for halyard

*Reran main and jib halyards internal to the mast

*Added Hood Performance Vang and removed topping lift

*Installed Raytheon RL9 LCD Radar

*Installed Norcold Icebox conversion refrigeration

*Installed Simpson Lawrence Hyspeed anchor windlass

*Installed Trace 1200w inverter/charger

*Installed Link 20 battery monitor

There's a million other small improvements but these are most of the major ones. I'm very pleased with how all of these have worked out and can provide more info. upon request...

Regards
Duane Yoslov
CD330 Mystic
San Francisco Bay



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Richard Stanley

Re: CD330 Improvements

Post by Richard Stanley »

Where do I post my reply? Here are my improvements to CD33 I realized last Sunday--1) topping lift parted and will have to be replaced; 2) 110% genoa ripped. And this was my bullet proof sail. I could bitch. But, no, I will just take a trip to the sailmaker.
Duane Yoslov wrote: Well I've been quiet on the page for a while...mostly because I've spent most of the summer engulfed in projects on the boat. I've recently completed several upgrades which have worked out very well and I thought I'd share them with all of you.

I won't go into too much detail, but please feel free to contact me if you'd like more info. on any of these changes.

*Removed the discontinued Nicro Fico mainsheet track with the hand pull stoppers and refit with a custom Schaefer 3:1 line control mainsheet traveler system.

*Installed Espar forced air diesel heater

*Added Spectra running back stays with 4:1 block and tackle (this was done to control mast pumping when reefed down and running only the staysail)

*Added masthead spinnacker bail for halyard

*Reran main and jib halyards internal to the mast

*Added Hood Performance Vang and removed topping lift

*Installed Raytheon RL9 LCD Radar

*Installed Norcold Icebox conversion refrigeration

*Installed Simpson Lawrence Hyspeed anchor windlass

*Installed Trace 1200w inverter/charger

*Installed Link 20 battery monitor

There's a million other small improvements but these are most of the major ones. I'm very pleased with how all of these have worked out and can provide more info. upon request...

Regards
Duane Yoslov
CD330 Mystic
San Francisco Bay


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Chris

Re: CD330 Improvements

Post by Chris »

Duane - I have recently purchased a CD330 (hull #135) and am planning on the improvements listed below this winter. I would appreciate any advise you (or anyone) could offer on the following:
- Adding a #150 to my sail inventory (main, staysail, yankee)
- Considering either Si-Tex or Raytheon LCD radar. Any recommendations?
- Mounting radar on stern post vs on mast?
- Should I consider additional batteries to power radar (have 2)?
- Adding refrigeration cold plate
- Installation of anchor windlass
- Installation of high water bilge alarm for when unattended at marina

Thanks,
Chris Reinke
CD330 Innisfail
New York



Duane Yoslov wrote: Well I've been quiet on the page for a while...mostly because I've spent most of the summer engulfed in projects on the boat. I've recently completed several upgrades which have worked out very well and I thought I'd share them with all of you.

I won't go into too much detail, but please feel free to contact me if you'd like more info. on any of these changes.

*Removed the discontinued Nicro Fico mainsheet track with the hand pull stoppers and refit with a custom Schaefer 3:1 line control mainsheet traveler system.

*Installed Espar forced air diesel heater

*Added Spectra running back stays with 4:1 block and tackle (this was done to control mast pumping when reefed down and running only the staysail)

*Added masthead spinnacker bail for halyard

*Reran main and jib halyards internal to the mast

*Added Hood Performance Vang and removed topping lift

*Installed Raytheon RL9 LCD Radar

*Installed Norcold Icebox conversion refrigeration

*Installed Simpson Lawrence Hyspeed anchor windlass

*Installed Trace 1200w inverter/charger

*Installed Link 20 battery monitor

There's a million other small improvements but these are most of the major ones. I'm very pleased with how all of these have worked out and can provide more info. upon request...

Regards
Duane Yoslov
CD330 Mystic
San Francisco Bay


chris.reinke@transamerica.com
Duane Yoslov

Re: CD330 Improvements

Post by Duane Yoslov »

Well, opinion are like &$*&%, but here's my $.02.

1.If you're looking for a light air sail, I would recommend an assymetrical spinnacker(gennacker) over a 150%. This gives you more versatility in your sail plan for all wind conditions (I'm assuming you have roller furling). Big jibs just don't reef well on a furler...no matter what your sail maker tells you. With a gennacker you can leave your working jib on the furler and when you need the power, you can hoist the gennacker separately. If purchase with a sock and running rigging led aft. They are very managable sails - even for the single hander.

2. Your decision to upgrade your bat. bank should factor in other variables such as:
-other reqs. (refrigeration, running lights, instruments,etc...)
-regeneration (solar,wind/tow generator,alternator)
-Amp hours in existing bank
-dedicated start bat?
Personally, I've turned my primary bat. bank into a 2 gel bat. (250 amp hour total) with a dedicated engine start bat. Currently I only have the engine alt. for regen. but will definitely rethink when full time cruising comes into play.

3.Sitex v. Raytheon. I don't know the Sitex very well but I do have several hundred hours in front of various Raytheon and Furuno screens. Between those 2, I like the Raytheon hands down. The Raytheon is overall more user friendly, interfaces well to other instruments, and their customer support is excellent.

In my opinion, the higher the better on the transmitter. The higher the tx the better the rx. Traditional thought is you didn't want the weight and windage aloft, but the size and weight of the new units has been dramatically reduced. Several of the sailing rags including Cruising World, Practical Sailor and Blue Water Sailing have done excellent articles on this debate.

Self leveling on the mast is best in my opinion.

4. If you don't have an automatic bilge pump switch already, do that before an alarm. If you don't have a redundant automatic bilge pump, install that first. An alarm is an excellent idea.

There's my $.02

Hope it helps.

Duane Yoslov
Mystic
CD330
SF Bay
Chris wrote: Duane - I have recently purchased a CD330 (hull #135) and am planning on the improvements listed below this winter. I would appreciate any advise you (or anyone) could offer on the following:
- Adding a #150 to my sail inventory (main, staysail, yankee)
- Considering either Si-Tex or Raytheon LCD radar. Any recommendations?
- Mounting radar on stern post vs on mast?
- Should I consider additional batteries to power radar (have 2)?
- Adding refrigeration cold plate
- Installation of anchor windlass
- Installation of high water bilge alarm for when unattended at marina

Thanks,
Chris Reinke
CD330 Innisfail
New York


Duane Yoslov wrote: Well I've been quiet on the page for a while...mostly because I've spent most of the summer engulfed in projects on the boat. I've recently completed several upgrades which have worked out very well and I thought I'd share them with all of you.

I won't go into too much detail, but please feel free to contact me if you'd like more info. on any of these changes.

*Removed the discontinued Nicro Fico mainsheet track with the hand pull stoppers and refit with a custom Schaefer 3:1 line control mainsheet traveler system.

*Installed Espar forced air diesel heater

*Added Spectra running back stays with 4:1 block and tackle (this was done to control mast pumping when reefed down and running only the staysail)

*Added masthead spinnacker bail for halyard

*Reran main and jib halyards internal to the mast

*Added Hood Performance Vang and removed topping lift

*Installed Raytheon RL9 LCD Radar

*Installed Norcold Icebox conversion refrigeration

*Installed Simpson Lawrence Hyspeed anchor windlass

*Installed Trace 1200w inverter/charger

*Installed Link 20 battery monitor

There's a million other small improvements but these are most of the major ones. I'm very pleased with how all of these have worked out and can provide more info. upon request...

Regards
Duane Yoslov
CD330 Mystic
San Francisco Bay


yoslovd@aol.com
steve alarcon

Re: CD330 Improvements

Post by steve alarcon »

Duane,

I was born and raised in S.F., but never had the chance to sail there, so I am a bit jealous. Nonetheless, I am interested in hearing about your experiences regarding refridgeration and forced air heating, and whether or not you intend to network your RL-9. I have an RL-9 that I am attempting to network with my Garmin handheld (without luck, seems to be some software problems that I haven't had the time to work out yet.) Perhaps you would consider a "serial" ala Mr. Arenius' style. (This is to say, thank you Dana for all you have contributed.)

Steve Alarcon
CD30 Temerity
Seattle



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Duane Yoslov

Re: CD330 Improvements

Post by Duane Yoslov »

Steve,

The Raytheon is a piece of cake to interface with your GPS. I, in fact, have mine hooked up to a handheld Garmin as the Nav Station electronics will be the last thng I do before we go cruising. I had a little difficulty at 1st on this as well because the grounding is not intuitive on this connection. The NMEA+ connects directly to the NMEA+ on the power input connector on the RL9 but the NMEA(-) simply connects to 12V(-). The handheld is mounted on the helm and the wire comes out of the binnacle. The RL9 display is mounted on a swing arm bracket in the companion way for viewing from eithet the nav station or the helm. Let me know how it works out...

For refrigeration, we installed a Norcold Ice Box conversion kit. It is a simple installation that took only a couple of hours. One of the things that helps is to buy and install a small 12V computer case fan for air circulation in the box. It works fantastic at the dock on the 110 compressor but is relatively inefficient off 12V and requires as much as 40 -50 amp hours per day.

The ESPAR heater is the greatest thing since sliced bread! It works amazingly well, keeps the boat dry and free of mold. We run the unit about 10-12 hrs. every day and a 3 gal day tank lasts about 1-1/2 wks. The installation was a 3 weekend deal and takes a lot of forethought and planniut is well worth the end result.
1st weekend: Ducted air distribution and exhaust
2cd weekend: Heater mounting and electrical connections
3rd weekend: Fuel delivery
If you get more serious about this job I can give you some more help on laying out the installation.

Anyway, best of luck braving out the Seattle winter. The Bay is as you know a spectacular place to sail year round!

Best Regards
Duane & Sarah
Mystic CD330
San Francisco
steve alarcon wrote: I was born and raised in S.F., but never had the chance to sail there, so I am a bit jealous. Nonetheless, I am interested in hearing about your experiences regarding refridgeration and forced air heating, and whether or not you intend to network your RL-9. I have an RL-9 that I am attempting to network with my Garmin handheld (without luck, seems to be some software problems that I haven't had the time to work out yet.) Perhaps you would consider a "serial" ala Mr. Arenius' style. (This is to say, thank you Dana for all you have contributed.)

Steve Alarcon
CD30 Temerity
Seattle


yoslovd@aol.com
Steve Alarcon

Re: CD330 Improvements

Post by Steve Alarcon »

Duane,

Congratulations on your many improvements. I sense that you spent the summer working and not getting to do very much sailing.

Thanks for the tip on the NMEA +/- issue. I'm headed to the boat this morning to do some chores and will wire up as you suggest. I'm sure that is my problem.

I'm a little disapointed to hear the results you report on the refer. We cruise in the San Juans and Canadian Gulf Islands in the summer where you can really get away from it all for several days or weeks, and it can be quite warm (it doesn't always rain up here, but we keep it a secret). I am hoping to find a solution to allow fresh food provisioning for several days to a week at time.

I may take you up on on the Espar installation recommendations. We currently have a wall mounted, drip feed diesel heater of british manufacture. While it does a nice job of generating heat, distribution of the warmed air is a problem and all the heat is at head level. I get cold feet! Where did you put the fuel tank?

We used the same mount procedure for the radar graphics head as you. Great minds produce great results! :^)

Best Regards,
Steve Alarcon
CD30 Temerity
Seattle



steve.alarcon@attws.com
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