Fianlly launched Roberta Jane II. Since this is my first season and I have more maintenence to do, I have her in an open "slip" with her stern facing the dock. The marina recommended using spring lines from the forward mooring posts to keep the stern from hitting the dock. I'm currently using just port and starboard lines through the bow chock to the single bow cleat and two crossed lines from the dock to the stern cleat and motor bracket (added a second chock to the toerail to keep them separate).
Are spring lines also needed and where on a Typhoon Weekender would I cleat them off? Would I use the jib cleats with or without a turn around the winches? Direct to the winches? What about adding sliding cleats on the genny sail tracks?
Mike
mikeraehl@telocity.com
Spring Lines on Typhoon?
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Re: Spring Lines on Typhoon?
mike,
my ty is in a slip with a finger dock on the starboard side only.
i have two bowlines, one stern line to a cleat on the finer dock and a line from the port winch to a cleat on the main dock. that keeps me from contacting either dock, but then again i am not dealing with slack lines for tidal ranges either being that i am on a freshwater lake. you could put cleats on the genoa tracks, but i think the winch can handle the load better.
the way you are tying up is the way we tie up when we charter boats and we have never had a problem.
my ty is in a slip with a finger dock on the starboard side only.
i have two bowlines, one stern line to a cleat on the finer dock and a line from the port winch to a cleat on the main dock. that keeps me from contacting either dock, but then again i am not dealing with slack lines for tidal ranges either being that i am on a freshwater lake. you could put cleats on the genoa tracks, but i think the winch can handle the load better.
the way you are tying up is the way we tie up when we charter boats and we have never had a problem.
Mike Raehl wrote: Fianlly launched Roberta Jane II. Since this is my first season and I have more maintenence to do, I have her in an open "slip" with her stern facing the dock. The marina recommended using spring lines from the forward mooring posts to keep the stern from hitting the dock. I'm currently using just port and starboard lines through the bow chock to the single bow cleat and two crossed lines from the dock to the stern cleat and motor bracket (added a second chock to the toerail to keep them separate).
Are spring lines also needed and where on a Typhoon Weekender would I cleat them off? Would I use the jib cleats with or without a turn around the winches? Direct to the winches? What about adding sliding cleats on the genny sail tracks?
Mike
Re: Spring Lines on Typhoon?
The forces that affect an aircraft carrier and those that affect a Typhoon are about the same, and they should tie up about the same way. Bow and stern lines keep the bow and stern against the dock (or off the dock as well if you're lucky enough to be able to rig them port and starboard). The spring lines are for controlling fore and aft movement. The combination of bow, stern and spring lines keeps the boat where you want it to be. You can rig the spring lines from any strong point... bow/stern cleats are good (that's what I use), as are the winches. Forces on the jib sheet cleats are weak, since the winch takes up most of the pull. They're probably not strong enough.
Regards, Neil
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Regards, Neil
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neil@nrgordon.com
Re: Spring Lines on Typhoon?
Mike,
Spring lines are valuable when one side is against a dock and the bow and stern lines allow the boat to move fore and aft. In the open slip you describe, it would seem that you wouldn't have any real fore and aft motion.
However if you do need to use spring lines...we run a forward spring line to the halyard cleat on the cabin top, and the stern spring line to the jib/genoa sheet cleat. These are always left attached to the dock/slip so that we don't have to reassign a correct length every time we moor. They have enough slack so the boat doesn't tug against them with every little change, but not enough that the boat really gets momentum before being pulled up short by the line.
Serge
Ty #1700 'Cloning Around'
serge@srtrop.com
Spring lines are valuable when one side is against a dock and the bow and stern lines allow the boat to move fore and aft. In the open slip you describe, it would seem that you wouldn't have any real fore and aft motion.
However if you do need to use spring lines...we run a forward spring line to the halyard cleat on the cabin top, and the stern spring line to the jib/genoa sheet cleat. These are always left attached to the dock/slip so that we don't have to reassign a correct length every time we moor. They have enough slack so the boat doesn't tug against them with every little change, but not enough that the boat really gets momentum before being pulled up short by the line.
Serge
Ty #1700 'Cloning Around'
serge@srtrop.com