My 30' CD Cutter (1978 hull # 77) has Edson Steering with a deck plate immediately aft the pedestal, presumeably for an emergency tiller. The rudder shaft is 1 1/8 inch stainless round stock with a keyway forward 1 1/4 (clear) and total length 1 1/2 inches. The keyway is squared 1/4 inch wide and 1/8 inch deep. Does anybody know the original manufacturer for the emergency tiller or where I might otherwise obtain one? I have tried Rigrite and Spartan Marine, who carry the short fitting for a rudder post cap with an "H" fitting for a tiller, but they do not sound very adaptable to my purpose - am I wrong? Many thanks for any input. Matthew
matkinson@genesis.law.pace.edu
Emergency tiller
Moderator: Jim Walsh
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D. Stump, Hanalei
Re: Emergency tiller
Matthew,
Hanalei (CD-30C, hull 324, 1984) has the same arrangement you describe. I found the emergency tiller about as far aft and low down as you can go in the hull. It hadn't been used in years, and was all rusted(the deck plate was frozen too). It is an open "L" shape, with short leg about 18" and long leg about 2'. It wouldn't be difficult to get a welder to make you a new one if you had the dimensions. I'd be glad to measure it up this weekend for you and post the results here. If you haven't seen the area directly under the transom deck, check there, maybe you missed it. To get the rust off mine, I took it to a local sanblaster(who charged an exorbitant $3.00) who cleaned it up like new. A little rustoleum spray paint and wal-la, new tiller. I removed the deck plate, greased the threads with waterproof grease and Carol and I can now do emergency tiller drills as fast as we do a man-overboard drill. This is one of those items that you will hopefully never need, but it is reassuring to know that it is there and servicable if you do need it. I'll get back to you...
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
Hanalei
Hanalei (CD-30C, hull 324, 1984) has the same arrangement you describe. I found the emergency tiller about as far aft and low down as you can go in the hull. It hadn't been used in years, and was all rusted(the deck plate was frozen too). It is an open "L" shape, with short leg about 18" and long leg about 2'. It wouldn't be difficult to get a welder to make you a new one if you had the dimensions. I'd be glad to measure it up this weekend for you and post the results here. If you haven't seen the area directly under the transom deck, check there, maybe you missed it. To get the rust off mine, I took it to a local sanblaster(who charged an exorbitant $3.00) who cleaned it up like new. A little rustoleum spray paint and wal-la, new tiller. I removed the deck plate, greased the threads with waterproof grease and Carol and I can now do emergency tiller drills as fast as we do a man-overboard drill. This is one of those items that you will hopefully never need, but it is reassuring to know that it is there and servicable if you do need it. I'll get back to you...
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
Hanalei
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D. Stump, Hanalei
Re: Emergency tiller, Measurements
Matthew,
The emergency tiller is cut from 1 1/8" I.D. X 1 1/2" O.D. carbon steel pipe. It is an open "L" shape tiller with the angle between legs at 55 degrees. The short leg is 18 3/4" long, is slotted 1/4" X 2" for 2 X 1/4 X 1/4" key stock in lower open end and it is capped on the upper end. Key stock is exposed 1/8" inside the pipe. The long leg is 23 3/4", capped on the handle end. The angle between each leg of the "L" is 55 degrees, as I said above, I think this is critical, as it puts the tiller at the right angle for stearing the boat through the deck plate. The caps on the ends of the pipe appear to be small round pieces of 1/4" plate, simply welded onto the ends. The key slot is in the outer surface of the short leg of the "L". That would put it on the forward surface of the tiller (look at rudder post head to assure proper location of key). I would have drawn you a picture, but I don't know how to do it on this machine. I'd suggest you try drawing it out from my description, and if it doesn't make sense, get back to me. Let me know how you make out...
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
Hanalei
The emergency tiller is cut from 1 1/8" I.D. X 1 1/2" O.D. carbon steel pipe. It is an open "L" shape tiller with the angle between legs at 55 degrees. The short leg is 18 3/4" long, is slotted 1/4" X 2" for 2 X 1/4 X 1/4" key stock in lower open end and it is capped on the upper end. Key stock is exposed 1/8" inside the pipe. The long leg is 23 3/4", capped on the handle end. The angle between each leg of the "L" is 55 degrees, as I said above, I think this is critical, as it puts the tiller at the right angle for stearing the boat through the deck plate. The caps on the ends of the pipe appear to be small round pieces of 1/4" plate, simply welded onto the ends. The key slot is in the outer surface of the short leg of the "L". That would put it on the forward surface of the tiller (look at rudder post head to assure proper location of key). I would have drawn you a picture, but I don't know how to do it on this machine. I'd suggest you try drawing it out from my description, and if it doesn't make sense, get back to me. Let me know how you make out...
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
Hanalei