I am converting to propane on a 1980 CD 36 (Renova). The greatest struggle is placement of the propane tank. Any suggestions on tank placement, or other installation suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks - Thad Fisco
tfisco@spiritone.com
Conversion of alcohol stove to propane on CD 36
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Tom
Re: Conversion of alcohol stove to propane on CD 36
I built a propane locker with an overboard drain on mine. At the back of the cockpit there is the lazarette seat, then the back of the cockpit coaming and then the deck. I reasoned that the lazarette is never so full that I pack it right up to the deck, so that area above the level of the seat is wasted space. I built a plywood box and then epoxied it all around and inset it into the deck between the two vents so that about 4 inches sticks up above deck level. Built a hatch cover similar to the ones on the cockpit lockers and painted it the same color as the deck so that it doesn't show much. The top is flat so you can still pile things on it and stand on it and all of that.
I ran the fireproof hose around the starboard side in the cockpit locker and into the galley and then fed the propane hose inside the fire proof hose. The locker is big enough to hold two vertical aluminum propane tanks side by side with a little room to spare. It's out of the way and utilizes only space that is otherwise useless. There's never any smell from it, you've got a handy spare tank, and it's inobtrusive.
It's got a remote shut off valve with a switch alongside the stove in the galley, so once you open the main valve on the propane tank you control it from inside after that. When you want to cook you just flip the switch and light the burner. At the end of the cruise you open the hatch and shut off the valve on the tank for long term storage. It works very well for me.
TomCambria@mindspring.com
I ran the fireproof hose around the starboard side in the cockpit locker and into the galley and then fed the propane hose inside the fire proof hose. The locker is big enough to hold two vertical aluminum propane tanks side by side with a little room to spare. It's out of the way and utilizes only space that is otherwise useless. There's never any smell from it, you've got a handy spare tank, and it's inobtrusive.
It's got a remote shut off valve with a switch alongside the stove in the galley, so once you open the main valve on the propane tank you control it from inside after that. When you want to cook you just flip the switch and light the burner. At the end of the cruise you open the hatch and shut off the valve on the tank for long term storage. It works very well for me.
Thad Fisco wrote: I am converting to propane on a 1980 CD 36 (Renova). The greatest struggle is placement of the propane tank. Any suggestions on tank placement, or other installation suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks - Thad Fisco
TomCambria@mindspring.com
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Ken Coit
Re: Conversion of alcohol stove to propane on CD 36
Thad,
The problem is much more easily solved with CNG. Parfait's CNG tanks lay almost horizontal in the bottom of the starboard cockpit locker, tucked into wooden cradles and strapped down.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
The problem is much more easily solved with CNG. Parfait's CNG tanks lay almost horizontal in the bottom of the starboard cockpit locker, tucked into wooden cradles and strapped down.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
Thad Fisco wrote: I am converting to propane on a 1980 CD 36 (Renova). The greatest struggle is placement of the propane tank. Any suggestions on tank placement, or other installation suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks - Thad Fisco
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
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Ted
Re: Conversion of alcohol stove to propane on CD 36
My Propane locker is located on the port side of the deck in a plastic box. It holds a horizontal aluminum 10 lb propane tank with a short run to the stove.. Ted S/V Morning Glory
tedgai@hotmail .com
tedgai@hotmail .com
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Randy Bates
Re: Conversion of alcohol stove to propane on CD 36
Thad:
If your only use of propane is for the stove you might consider what I did on a pervious boat.I replaced the alcohol stove's burner assebly with the propane burner assembly from a Coleman camp stove. It has a short hose connected that attaches to small throw away propane bottles.
randy.bates@baesystems.com
If your only use of propane is for the stove you might consider what I did on a pervious boat.I replaced the alcohol stove's burner assebly with the propane burner assembly from a Coleman camp stove. It has a short hose connected that attaches to small throw away propane bottles.
randy.bates@baesystems.com
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Jeff Barnes
Re: Conversion of alcohol stove to propane on CD 36
Thad
I agree with Ken, CNG solves the problem. No sealed locker or venting, and much safer.
Regards,
Jeff Barnes
"jazman" CD36 #68
jbarnes@oxbio.com
I agree with Ken, CNG solves the problem. No sealed locker or venting, and much safer.
Regards,
Jeff Barnes
"jazman" CD36 #68
jbarnes@oxbio.com
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Tim Smale
Re: Conversion of alcohol stove to propane on CD 36
Thad,
On my CD 36, I went with propane because CNG is not available everywhere, as is propane, especially where we plan to cruise in the future. I fabricated a base out of marine plywood and installed it in the aft lazarette. This base holds the locking tank locker with two propane bottles, the supply lines, and the regulator and solinoid. This is vented at the stern through a thru-hull I installed, everything sloping down even at a heel. Everything is airtight and done correctly to avoid any problems that are inherent to propane. The locker is strapped down, and is easy to open to get to the valves, and if tank removal is needed, I simply unhook the rubber straps holding the tank, and push the locker forward. The hinged lid locks in place, holding the tank open while I work on it.
I removed the alcohol stove, sold it, and installed a new 3 burner range and oven. I also installed a Force 10 cabin heater, routing the supply lines back to the propane tank. I installed two sniffers with alarms, and the solonoid switch on the fuse panel.
I hope this helps. I plan to take some pictures for another CD owner to show him. Let me know if you want the pics sent by e-mail to you as well.
Good luck!
Tim
s/v Freestyle
tim@iga.org
On my CD 36, I went with propane because CNG is not available everywhere, as is propane, especially where we plan to cruise in the future. I fabricated a base out of marine plywood and installed it in the aft lazarette. This base holds the locking tank locker with two propane bottles, the supply lines, and the regulator and solinoid. This is vented at the stern through a thru-hull I installed, everything sloping down even at a heel. Everything is airtight and done correctly to avoid any problems that are inherent to propane. The locker is strapped down, and is easy to open to get to the valves, and if tank removal is needed, I simply unhook the rubber straps holding the tank, and push the locker forward. The hinged lid locks in place, holding the tank open while I work on it.
I removed the alcohol stove, sold it, and installed a new 3 burner range and oven. I also installed a Force 10 cabin heater, routing the supply lines back to the propane tank. I installed two sniffers with alarms, and the solonoid switch on the fuse panel.
I hope this helps. I plan to take some pictures for another CD owner to show him. Let me know if you want the pics sent by e-mail to you as well.
Good luck!
Tim
s/v Freestyle
tim@iga.org