Could any of the long time CD25 owners share any tricks or suggestions on how to handle reversing a CD25.
I look like a candidate for the Keystone Cops when leaving and especially trying to slow down when entering my narrow slip.
Thanks
Jim
jtstull@icubed.com
Backing a CD25
Moderator: Jim Walsh
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D. Stump, Hanalei
Re: Backing a CD25
Jim,
When backing Hanalei (CD-30) I find that the first requirement is that there be NO ONE watching you do it! If anyone is watching, Hanalei will always back to port instead of to starboard as I would like. Seriously, back SLOWLY, using minimum power to just get her moving. Once she is moving THEN put the wheel over in the direction you want to go. This SOMETIMES works for me, but on Saturdays and Sundays when people are watching, she goes wherever the #@%& she wants. Have fun with her...
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
HANALEI
When backing Hanalei (CD-30) I find that the first requirement is that there be NO ONE watching you do it! If anyone is watching, Hanalei will always back to port instead of to starboard as I would like. Seriously, back SLOWLY, using minimum power to just get her moving. Once she is moving THEN put the wheel over in the direction you want to go. This SOMETIMES works for me, but on Saturdays and Sundays when people are watching, she goes wherever the #@%& she wants. Have fun with her...
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
HANALEI
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Darin Bartram
Re: Backing a CD25
Jim,
Dave's reply would be real helpful if you (1) had a diesel rather than an outboard and (2) a wheel rather than a tiller. Luckily for you, you have neither; backing is much easier as a result. If you don't already have a method of propping your engine hatch open, install one. (I have a shackle tied to the stern rail, which clips to the padlock bracket on the hatch.) To back your 25, physically turn the outboard in the direction you want to go, and slowly put it in reverse. (You will have more room to turn the motor if you have only one gas can in the well.) Be sure you also point your rudder in the same direction. Using this method, I can put my 26 pretty much anywhere I want it to go. I use the same method going forward in tight quarters as well. I got a great deal on a slip this year because the slip is somewhat difficult to maneuver into--for most boats, that is.
dbartram@hunton.com
Dave's reply would be real helpful if you (1) had a diesel rather than an outboard and (2) a wheel rather than a tiller. Luckily for you, you have neither; backing is much easier as a result. If you don't already have a method of propping your engine hatch open, install one. (I have a shackle tied to the stern rail, which clips to the padlock bracket on the hatch.) To back your 25, physically turn the outboard in the direction you want to go, and slowly put it in reverse. (You will have more room to turn the motor if you have only one gas can in the well.) Be sure you also point your rudder in the same direction. Using this method, I can put my 26 pretty much anywhere I want it to go. I use the same method going forward in tight quarters as well. I got a great deal on a slip this year because the slip is somewhat difficult to maneuver into--for most boats, that is.
dbartram@hunton.com
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Bruce Bett
Re: Backing a CD25
Jim:
I rarely use reverse on Sostenuto except as a brake. When I leave the dock I walk the boat to the end of the slip with the bow line. When at the end of the dock I pull the bow to the dock step on the foredeck and push off with my foot as I come aboard. I've only fallen in the water once! Comming in I come in very slow and often don't need reverse then either. When I use it to brake I use in short powerful burstes. I have had to use reverse occasionally and should practice with it a bit, but generally I avoid it.
There was a discussion a few weeks ago about backing the 30s in which I learned to my surprise that they have the same problems. I had thought that with the prop forward of the rudder they would do better in reverse.
Bruce Bett
Sostenuto CD25 #496
Bett@smtp.munet.edu
I rarely use reverse on Sostenuto except as a brake. When I leave the dock I walk the boat to the end of the slip with the bow line. When at the end of the dock I pull the bow to the dock step on the foredeck and push off with my foot as I come aboard. I've only fallen in the water once! Comming in I come in very slow and often don't need reverse then either. When I use it to brake I use in short powerful burstes. I have had to use reverse occasionally and should practice with it a bit, but generally I avoid it.
There was a discussion a few weeks ago about backing the 30s in which I learned to my surprise that they have the same problems. I had thought that with the prop forward of the rudder they would do better in reverse.
Bruce Bett
Sostenuto CD25 #496
Jim Stull wrote: Could any of the long time CD25 owners share any tricks or suggestions on how to handle reversing a CD25.
I look like a candidate for the Keystone Cops when leaving and especially trying to slow down when entering my narrow slip.
Thanks
Jim
Bett@smtp.munet.edu
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kevin aubuchon
Re: Backing a CD25
To back your 25, physically turn the outboard in the direction you want to go, and slowly put it in reverse.
With a 9.9 HP Evinrude in my engine well, I don't have any room to turn the engine. I've learned to get a little backward momentum and use the rudder (not too much rudder - you'll stall the boat or stress the rudder). However, the key component is knowing how to keep the boat from hitting anything (shifting into Neutral after achieving momentum, not going faster than necessary). Regardless of where she goes, I keep her off adjacent boats and slips, and eventually get her pointed in the right direction.
good luck Jim
kevin aubuchon
kaubuchon@primary.net
With a 9.9 HP Evinrude in my engine well, I don't have any room to turn the engine. I've learned to get a little backward momentum and use the rudder (not too much rudder - you'll stall the boat or stress the rudder). However, the key component is knowing how to keep the boat from hitting anything (shifting into Neutral after achieving momentum, not going faster than necessary). Regardless of where she goes, I keep her off adjacent boats and slips, and eventually get her pointed in the right direction.
good luck Jim
kevin aubuchon
kaubuchon@primary.net
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Bob B
Re: Backing a CD25
Keystone cops? It seems as everyone would see me enter the harbor and come by to see what a fiasco I made of it this time. I had to back a CD27 into a long slip with just piles to separate it from the neighbors. I place my dock lines on the piles so that I can get to them easily. As I approach the upwind outer pile, I grab this and walk forward on the boat with it. When the boat starts to enter the slip, I grab the downwind line and send someone with it down the port side. This seems to work well if you have some people on board. Solo, I would get a little momentum from off the slip and stop the engine motion, using just rudder to drift in. With the inboard we have such propwash to starboard. If you do not have an inboard then the same can apply with the outboard if it is immovable. If you can move the outboard, defininitly do this. Good luck. Try just getting out in the water and doing some backing practice what your boat will do and not do. Otherwise, depend on your being the dockside entertainment. As long as you have a sense of humor with it everyone, including you will have a good time.
Bob B.
BundyR@aol.com
Bob B.
BundyR@aol.com
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Jon Larson
Re: Backing a CD25
Bob, a simple investment in a line strung from the outer piling to the dock along the edge of your slip can make all the world of difference in walking in the boat.
Jon Larson
Cape Dory 30 PERI
San Francisco Bay
jon9@ix.netcom.com
Jon Larson
Cape Dory 30 PERI
San Francisco Bay
Bob B wrote: Keystone cops? It seems as everyone would see me enter the harbor and come by to see what a fiasco I made of it this time. I had to back a CD27 into a long slip with just piles to separate it from the neighbors. I place my dock lines on the piles so that I can get to them easily. As I approach the upwind outer pile, I grab this and walk forward on the boat with it. When the boat starts to enter the slip, I grab the downwind line and send someone with it down the port side. This seems to work well if you have some people on board. Solo, I would get a little momentum from off the slip and stop the engine motion, using just rudder to drift in. With the inboard we have such propwash to starboard. If you do not have an inboard then the same can apply with the outboard if it is immovable. If you can move the outboard, defininitly do this. Good luck. Try just getting out in the water and doing some backing practice what your boat will do and not do. Otherwise, depend on your being the dockside entertainment. As long as you have a sense of humor with it everyone, including you will have a good time.
Bob B.
jon9@ix.netcom.com