Please help. I have just inherited my dad's 19' CD Typhoon weekender and I need to buy a new outboard. I live in Ft. Lauderdale, and I am 1/2 mile from the ocean (thus the outlet) and need the right strength engine. I am very interested in purchasing a new 4-stroke Honda, but I am not sure if 2 HP is enough to push the boat properly in any conditions (if it gets rough or a strong current). Do I need a 5 HP 4-stroke?? Thanks for any advice.
dooley@marmed.com
outboard for CD typhoon weekender
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Lee H. Hodsdon
Re: outboard for CD typhoon weekender
Sean,Sean Dooley wrote: Please help. I have just inherited my dad's 19' CD Typhoon weekender and I need to buy a new outboard. I live in Ft. Lauderdale, and I am 1/2 mile from the ocean (thus the outlet) and need the right strength engine. I am very interested in purchasing a new 4-stroke Honda, but I am not sure if 2 HP is enough to push the boat properly in any conditions (if it gets rough or a strong current). Do I need a 5 HP 4-stroke?? Thanks for any advice.
You will love the Typhoon. I used two engines on our old Typhoon, 5 HP, and 3 HP. The 5 was brand new long shaft Yamaha, which ran fine, used quite a bit of fuel, and was in my opinion way too heavy for the boat and the motor mount. I then changed to a British Seagull, long shaft 3 HP unit with a generator, neutral and forward gears. The Seagull was just what the doctor ordered! It used little gasoline, generated charging voltage for a motorcycle battery for lights and radio, was light and provided as much useable thrust as the Yamaha. We moored the boat on Great Bay in NH, and needed to travel about 8-10 miles down the Piscataqua River under three bridges to the ocean. Currents in the river reached 5+ kts during ebb. The Seagull could buck the current in all but the most extreme conditions. I am not at all familiar with your conditions, but I hope this has been somewhat of a help.
Fair winds,
Lee
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Harris
Brittish Seagull
I have an Alberg Sea Sprite 23. When ever I sail by a Typhoon I always say.."Hey mister...did your boat shrink?" Most think it's funny as the Sea Sprite is also an Alberg design and looks like the lines were just magnified 50% Some people look puzzled. I initially sailed out of an area where I had the similar 5 knot currents and the 2 bridges over a 5 mile stretch. I blew up the original 6 hp Evenrude as well as the replacement 7.5 Johnson. The Johnson was new and only lasted 1.5 years! I ended up with a Seagull as well..only the largest ever made...Model 170. It has a huge 4 blade prop..is supposedly 8 hp....one cylinder. On paper this is was a great choice. The drawbacks are....this monster shakes like crazy until warmed up fully and even then is extremely loud. Seagulls are no longer available in the US....only parts to a limited degree. I'm still waiting for a small part for 4 weeks.
I discussed certain matters with the reps at the previous importer. They said that people would hit the roof when told the price of a replacement gas tank for the small models.....$225..
Now that I'm sailing off a mooring in Barnagat Bay, NJ. I have no current or bridges to deal with. The "monster" is clamped to a plank that is resting on my V-berth....just insurance to race a thunderstorm. Practicle Sailor had a review 10 years ago. The consensus was that the motors were tempermental junk.I don't intend to stir the waters...just to hear others experiences with the Seagulls. Apparently mine is real rare. Mid 1980's with a full cowelling and a 25 inch shaft. It's also available for sale to a good home!
hg@myhost.com
I discussed certain matters with the reps at the previous importer. They said that people would hit the roof when told the price of a replacement gas tank for the small models.....$225..
Now that I'm sailing off a mooring in Barnagat Bay, NJ. I have no current or bridges to deal with. The "monster" is clamped to a plank that is resting on my V-berth....just insurance to race a thunderstorm. Practicle Sailor had a review 10 years ago. The consensus was that the motors were tempermental junk.I don't intend to stir the waters...just to hear others experiences with the Seagulls. Apparently mine is real rare. Mid 1980's with a full cowelling and a 25 inch shaft. It's also available for sale to a good home!
hg@myhost.com
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Bob B
Re: outboard for CD typhoon weekender
Wow! Good luck to you for having inherited such a fine boat. Sorry if it was a sad occasion that caused the inheritance.
I had a CD 27 and now own a CD Typhoon. Mine has a 3.5hp Japanese motor. Bought it used at the dock from a fellow that had just bought a four stroke for a dingy. It pushes the Typhoon along at five knots with the throttle at about 1/3 open. If I push it on up, the drag of the keel keeps it from going much faster than 6 knots. By reading about the motors that lasted short periods of time, I would rather take it easy on the motor and keep it for a long period of time. Mine only has a forward and a neutral. I just turn it around on the mount for reverse. It also is a single cylinder and so easy to work on that I have been able to do most repairs myself.
Good luck with it. Hope you have happy sailing.
Bob B
BundyR@aol.com
I had a CD 27 and now own a CD Typhoon. Mine has a 3.5hp Japanese motor. Bought it used at the dock from a fellow that had just bought a four stroke for a dingy. It pushes the Typhoon along at five knots with the throttle at about 1/3 open. If I push it on up, the drag of the keel keeps it from going much faster than 6 knots. By reading about the motors that lasted short periods of time, I would rather take it easy on the motor and keep it for a long period of time. Mine only has a forward and a neutral. I just turn it around on the mount for reverse. It also is a single cylinder and so easy to work on that I have been able to do most repairs myself.
Good luck with it. Hope you have happy sailing.
Bob B
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Lee H. Hodsdon
Re: Brittish Seagull
Harris,
Must be a Typhoon on steroids. I have a parts supplier in Canada who is very quick with a complete inventory. If you are interested I can supply you with his name and phone number. As to the tempermental junk I found the motor to be the ultimate in simplicity,"on/off, channel selection and volume", but certainly to each his own.
Sincerly,
Lee
lhodsdon@nh.ultranet.com
Must be a Typhoon on steroids. I have a parts supplier in Canada who is very quick with a complete inventory. If you are interested I can supply you with his name and phone number. As to the tempermental junk I found the motor to be the ultimate in simplicity,"on/off, channel selection and volume", but certainly to each his own.
Sincerly,
Lee
Harris wrote: I have an Alberg Sea Sprite 23. When ever I sail by a Typhoon I always say.."Hey mister...did your boat shrink?" Most think it's funny as the Sea Sprite is also an Alberg design and looks like the lines were just magnified 50% Some people look puzzled. I initially sailed out of an area where I had the similar 5 knot currents and the 2 bridges over a 5 mile stretch. I blew up the original 6 hp Evenrude as well as the replacement 7.5 Johnson. The Johnson was new and only lasted 1.5 years! I ended up with a Seagull as well..only the largest ever made...Model 170. It has a huge 4 blade prop..is supposedly 8 hp....one cylinder. On paper this is was a great choice. The drawbacks are....this monster shakes like crazy until warmed up fully and even then is extremely loud. Seagulls are no longer available in the US....only parts to a limited degree. I'm still waiting for a small part for 4 weeks.
I discussed certain matters with the reps at the previous importer. They said that people would hit the roof when told the price of a replacement gas tank for the small models.....$225..
Now that I'm sailing off a mooring in Barnagat Bay, NJ. I have no current or bridges to deal with. The "monster" is clamped to a plank that is resting on my V-berth....just insurance to race a thunderstorm. Practicle Sailor had a review 10 years ago. The consensus was that the motors were tempermental junk.I don't intend to stir the waters...just to hear others experiences with the Seagulls. Apparently mine is real rare. Mid 1980's with a full cowelling and a 25 inch shaft. It's also available for sale to a good home!
lhodsdon@nh.ultranet.com
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Michael Wainfeld
Re: outboard for CD typhoon weekender
2hp is definitely not enough, I use a 3hp long shaft Yamaha (2nd season) which will move the boat along nicely. I had thought that it might not be powerful enough for rougher conditions, but I took the boat out yesterday and going up the canal with a 25 knot wind on the nose and into 3 foot combers I was able to make it out, although very slowly. More power must be balanced of course against a heavier engine, and the 3hp is light enough to move around easily.
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Paul Danicic
Re: outboard for CD typhoon weekender
Sean,
Our '75 Typhoon came with a 4hp Yamaha outboard which seems to push the little boat along at about 4-5 knots without being too heavy or loud. My brother recently had it out on Lake Superior when the wind came up to about 15-20knots. He was able to motor through the resulting waves and got back fine though wet. This motor has the integral tank. Usually we moor the boat and do not even keep the motor aboard, the boat sails so well!
Good luck, Paul
nyem001@tc.umn.edu
Our '75 Typhoon came with a 4hp Yamaha outboard which seems to push the little boat along at about 4-5 knots without being too heavy or loud. My brother recently had it out on Lake Superior when the wind came up to about 15-20knots. He was able to motor through the resulting waves and got back fine though wet. This motor has the integral tank. Usually we moor the boat and do not even keep the motor aboard, the boat sails so well!
Good luck, Paul
nyem001@tc.umn.edu
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Ron Fitzpatrick
Re: outboard for CD typhoon weekender
Sean,
I installed a 5 hp Honda (long shaft) on my Typhoon weekender this year. I like the idea of 4 stroke and the one I got has a 3amp alternator. It's a very quiet engine, especially since I don't crank it much more than slow (1/4) throttle, which moves the boat easily. That's the good news. In spite of the pluses, I can't recommend this engine for a Typhoon. It weighs 60 pounds and has considerably more torque than I want to apply to the stock mounting bracket. I still have the 4 hp Mercury that it replaced. The Merc also moved the boat well, but it was 22 years old and I was getting a little nervouse about its continued reliability.
So, instead of asking advice, which of course is the smart thing, I went out and snapped up the Honda. Now I'm wrestling with relegating the Honda to my inflatable and getting another new motor (smaller, lighter and since I also installed a solar panel for charging the battery, without an alternator) or shifting some weight into the bow and buying a sturdier mounting bracket. The stock bracket is something of a pain anyway, since I usually have to stand on the aft deck, lift the motor and stick a wedge under the tilted bracket so that the shaft is clear of the water.
Did I mention, I love this boat. It is a wonderful little sailer.
Good Luck,
Ron Fitzpatrick
Plumb Krazy (#48)
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I installed a 5 hp Honda (long shaft) on my Typhoon weekender this year. I like the idea of 4 stroke and the one I got has a 3amp alternator. It's a very quiet engine, especially since I don't crank it much more than slow (1/4) throttle, which moves the boat easily. That's the good news. In spite of the pluses, I can't recommend this engine for a Typhoon. It weighs 60 pounds and has considerably more torque than I want to apply to the stock mounting bracket. I still have the 4 hp Mercury that it replaced. The Merc also moved the boat well, but it was 22 years old and I was getting a little nervouse about its continued reliability.
So, instead of asking advice, which of course is the smart thing, I went out and snapped up the Honda. Now I'm wrestling with relegating the Honda to my inflatable and getting another new motor (smaller, lighter and since I also installed a solar panel for charging the battery, without an alternator) or shifting some weight into the bow and buying a sturdier mounting bracket. The stock bracket is something of a pain anyway, since I usually have to stand on the aft deck, lift the motor and stick a wedge under the tilted bracket so that the shaft is clear of the water.
Did I mention, I love this boat. It is a wonderful little sailer.
Good Luck,
Ron Fitzpatrick
Plumb Krazy (#48)
rjfitz@worldpath.net
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Dick Sisson
Re: outboard for CD typhoon weekender
I currently use a longshaft 2.5 hp Tohatsu/Nissen on my weekender. It pushes the boat up to hull speed at about 2/3 throttle. I would really like less hp, less noise, less vibration. I think I may have messed up not considering a 2 hp Honda 4 stroke.
The one time I had to motor against high wind and waves I really would have liked to throttle back quite a bit to lessen the pounding and spray but I was nervous about fouling the plug.
dickee03@rivnet.net
The one time I had to motor against high wind and waves I really would have liked to throttle back quite a bit to lessen the pounding and spray but I was nervous about fouling the plug.
dickee03@rivnet.net
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Andy Malinoski
Re: outboard for CD typhoon weekender
my old 4 hp evinrude/ long shaft was fine for my needs, it just wore out after 25 years! replaced it with a johnson 4 hp long shaft which does the trick. in my situation, i don't leave my motor on when the boat is moored, so it's a blessing that the new one only weighs 36 #.Sean Dooley wrote: Please help. I have just inherited my dad's 19' CD Typhoon weekender and I need to buy a new outboard. I live in Ft. Lauderdale, and I am 1/2 mile from the ocean (thus the outlet) and need the right strength engine. I am very interested in purchasing a new 4-stroke Honda, but I am not sure if 2 HP is enough to push the boat properly in any conditions (if it gets rough or a strong current). Do I need a 5 HP 4-stroke?? Thanks for any advice.
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