cape dory 28
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cape dory 28
I have found a cape dory 28 in SO. Cal it has the club foot jib not alot of elec. It has an alcohol stove etc. it"s a 1981 they want 24500 for the boat is this a good deal. I am figuring I have to put roller furling jib and a propane stove and a new engine ( it has a volve in it now. Thanks for your help
mikeam@pacbell.net
mikeam@pacbell.net
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Mike,mike wrote: I have found a cape dory 28 in SO. Cal it has the club foot jib not alot of elec. It has an alcohol stove etc. it"s a 1981 they want 24500 for the boat is this a good deal. I am figuring I have to put roller furling jib and a propane stove and a new engine ( it has a volve in it now. Thanks for your help
We have an '83 CD28, which we bought 7/95. 24500 appears high without any 'extras'.
Nancy
nhmarti@ibm.net
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The price seems a bit high if the boat needs a new engine. I would knock $6,000 off for the engine and another 2K for the lack of 'extras'. However, does it really "need" a new engine (i.e. is the volvo at the end of its wear cycle) or do you prefer to have a different engine (in which case I don't think you can justify a reduction in price). When I bought my CD 28 the Volvo Penta MD2B (24 hp) was in need of a rebuild or replacement and I knocked over 5K from the price based on its condition. I rebuilt the engine myself and it is solid, trustworthy and runs like a top. I am very happy with it so I would advise keeping the present engine and get the price down based on its condition. In any case, 24K is a little on the high side. I have a 76 that I bought 2 years ago and the asking price was 19.5K. Following survey and the engine problem, I got the boat for 10K and after some minor work (which nonetheless was time consuming) and the engine repair, the boat is now in tip top shape and is perfect for me. I would not want a smaller boat and I don't need a bigger one. With the autohelm, roller furling and a nice hefty padeye in the cockpit for the harness, it is perfect for singlehanding. I have the plastic ports and the later models of CD 28 have a smaller companionway enterance (which is better for offshore) but besides that, I think you'll be happy with it if you can get it at a lower price. I should add that when all was said and done, I would be just as happy to pay more and just go sailing than pay less for a project boat. I would have paid 15K for my boat if I didn't need to rebuild the volvo. The good part about rebuilding is that now I trust the engine completely (there is nothing about it that I don't know in terms of its functioning or condition). By the way, you may wonder why it needed a rebuild...it was not because of the make or model of the engine. There was a small drip, drip, drip of seawater above the engine that went on for years due to a cheap hoseclamp. This corroded one of the steel access plates on the side of the engine causing the engine to lose oil rapidly. In addition, there was no seawater strainer and the cooling passages were restricted. Poor lubrication and overheating brought it to its knees....but now it is like new...so think twice about a complete replacement. Good luck...hope this helps.
Paul
rfurman@dmv.com
Paul
rfurman@dmv.com
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Thanks for all the info. The engine is a volvo md7a 13 hp alittle small. Thanks again for all the info.
mikeam@pacbell.net
Paul Grecay wrote: The price seems a bit high if the boat needs a new engine. I would knock $6,000 off for the engine and another 2K for the lack of 'extras'. However, does it really "need" a new engine (i.e. is the volvo at the end of its wear cycle) or do you prefer to have a different engine (in which case I don't think you can justify a reduction in price). When I bought my CD 28 the Volvo Penta MD2B (24 hp) was in need of a rebuild or replacement and I knocked over 5K from the price based on its condition. I rebuilt the engine myself and it is solid, trustworthy and runs like a top. I am very happy with it so I would advise keeping the present engine and get the price down based on its condition. In any case, 24K is a little on the high side. I have a 76 that I bought 2 years ago and the asking price was 19.5K. Following survey and the engine problem, I got the boat for 10K and after some minor work (which nonetheless was time consuming) and the engine repair, the boat is now in tip top shape and is perfect for me. I would not want a smaller boat and I don't need a bigger one. With the autohelm, roller furling and a nice hefty padeye in the cockpit for the harness, it is perfect for singlehanding. I have the plastic ports and the later models of CD 28 have a smaller companionway enterance (which is better for offshore) but besides that, I think you'll be happy with it if you can get it at a lower price. I should add that when all was said and done, I would be just as happy to pay more and just go sailing than pay less for a project boat. I would have paid 15K for my boat if I didn't need to rebuild the volvo. The good part about rebuilding is that now I trust the engine completely (there is nothing about it that I don't know in terms of its functioning or condition). By the way, you may wonder why it needed a rebuild...it was not because of the make or model of the engine. There was a small drip, drip, drip of seawater above the engine that went on for years due to a cheap hoseclamp. This corroded one of the steel access plates on the side of the engine causing the engine to lose oil rapidly. In addition, there was no seawater strainer and the cooling passages were restricted. Poor lubrication and overheating brought it to its knees....but now it is like new...so think twice about a complete replacement. Good luck...hope this helps.
Paul
mikeam@pacbell.net
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If the boat needs a new engine, it's not a good deal for the price. A jib and new stove are not a big deal by comparison. Btw, the old pressure alcohol stove can be replaced with non-pressure alcohol.
The CD I bought came with tons of equipment acquired over 20 years. That's really the fun of buying a quality classic.
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
CD 28 #167
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The CD I bought came with tons of equipment acquired over 20 years. That's really the fun of buying a quality classic.
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
CD 28 #167
103355.34@compuserve.com
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>>The engine is a volvo md7a 13 hp alittle small.<<
The 13 hp pushes LIQUIDITY just fine, although it's underpowered in reverse for sure. Not worth the cost of replacement, though. That's what sails are for. <G>
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
CD 28 #167
103355.34@compuserve.com
The 13 hp pushes LIQUIDITY just fine, although it's underpowered in reverse for sure. Not worth the cost of replacement, though. That's what sails are for. <G>
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
CD 28 #167
103355.34@compuserve.com
Re: cape dory 28
Mike,Nancy wrote:Mike,mike wrote: I have found a cape dory 28 in SO. Cal it has the club foot jib not alot of elec. It has an alcohol stove etc. it"s a 1981 they want 24500 for the boat is this a good deal. I am figuring I have to put roller furling jib and a propane stove and a new engine ( it has a volve in it now. Thanks for your help
We have an '83 CD28, which we bought 7/95. 24500 appears high without any 'extras'.
Nancy
I just bought a '78 CD-28, basic boat, no goodies, much as you described. The man wanted 21,900 and we settled at 16,800. Don't be afraid to offer a very low price. Be prepared to let him think about it a while. Remember it's a buyer's market. Get a good survey and a separate engine survey and make your offer contingent on the results of the surveys. Go for it!! Craig
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