Stern dock lines

[Bill Lawson]

Our 1980 TY has no provision for stern dock lines. Previous owner used the winches. I would like to add cleat or cleats...what is the best set up for a TY ???? Need something that will not rub on teak rails. Thanks in advance. Bill



walawson@qwest.net

[Jack Jo Chamberlain]

Our 1972 TY has one cleat mounted on the stern deck. Previous owner mounted cleats on both side decks, toward back of coaming between coaming and toe rail. He also mounted chocks on the teak, port and starboard on the back, to guide the stern lines and protect teak.Been working fine for nearly 20 years.



jchamber@crosslink.net

[Bristol Bronze]

Our 1980 TY has no provision for stern dock lines. Previous owner used the winches. I would like to add cleat or cleats...what is the best set up for a TY ???? Need something that will not rub on teak rails. Thanks in advance. Bill

Dear Bill,

To keep your dock lines from rubbing on the teak rails you will first need some chocks. We at Bristol Bronze make some nice skeene chocks that you could mount on the rails. We also make some closed chocks that you could recess into the rails at the stern.

The cleats for the stern lines should be as far forward as is convenient for you. The farther forward the less the chance of them snagging the mainsheet during a jibe. I would not recommend a cam cleat or a jamb cleat for this purpose. A pedestal cleat or a horn cleat would be most effective.

If you have any questions I can be reached at 401-625-5224. If you do not have one of our catalogs I will be happy to send you one if you will provide your mailing address.

Roger W.
Bristol Bronze



rogerw@meganet.net

[D. Stump, Hanalei]

Captain Lawson,

Don't know what the configuration was from the factory on a Tye, but on a CD-30, the stern line runs from a bronze horn cleat, mounted just outside the cockpit coaming(a through deck mount, not on a board), directly aft through a bronze chock mounted on the stern covering board. Same arrangemnet both Port and Starboard. Now, I use that cleat to lash on my stern line when at the floating dock, but then the line does run over the starboard side toe rail(not through the chock), and if there wasn't a short piece of half round bronze on top of the rail, the line would eat it up. I believe the chock and cleat are designed to be used together. The chock aims the line directly at the cleat! Any side pull on the line would first be snubbed by the chock and then by the cleat. But, the cleat will always see a direct pull from aft. FWIW.....

Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA #1

[john]

I have a '72 Ty which has bronze cleats mounted P & S, pretty far aft (like, nearly to the end of the aft deck), and mounted on blocks which raise them up above the level of the toe rail. There are no chocks at the stern.

Our 1980 TY has no provision for stern dock lines. Previous owner used the winches. I would like to add cleat or cleats...what is the best set up for a TY ???? Need something that will not rub on teak rails. Thanks in advance. Bill

john.hoft-march@appleton.org

[Joel]

On my '73 Ty, I run a starboard stern line from a deck-mounted horn cleat positioned aft of the end of the cockpit coaming through a chock mounted on the stern covering board. I get a little rubbing wear on the flat surface of this board. There's no stern line provision port-side. She came rigged that way, but I'm not the original owner, so I can't speak to factory rigging.

Joel Bondy
s/y Pokey II
'73 Typhoon Weekender
#549
Bayside, NY



bondy_joel@hotmail.com

[sloopjohnl]

joel describes the original factory setup. our slips are like an H with two boats in between legs on either side of a main gangway. we each have a finger dock on one side and then share a cleat between the two boats on the main gangway. the finger dock gets a line from the stern cleat and the shared cleat gets a line from the port winch. there is not a lot of wave action and no tide on this inland lake so this works quite well. an option in a similar setup would be a cleat-on-a-car for the genoa track (west marine, etc.). you could easily add an identical stern cleat on the port side aft, but it could not be symmetrical with the starboard cleat if you're using an original motor mount.

Our 1980 TY has no provision for stern dock lines. Previous owner used the winches. I would like to add cleat or cleats...what is the best set up for a TY ???? Need something that will not rub on teak rails. Thanks in advance. Bill

[Serge Zimberoff]

There originally was a cleat to starboard of center line on the rear deck. Someone must have removed yours at some time. As noted in these posts it is not possible to mount a matching cleat if you are using the outboard mount. You may be able to find some sign of the original cleat by looking inside the inspection port at the rear of the cockpit. Putting a teak block under a cleat when you do add one will help reduce the problem but rubbing the teak toe rail is going to be related to the height of your dock etc. Fairleads as suggested by Roger from Bristol Bronze are a good idea but what we did was add a stainless cap to the top of the toe rail after we had set up all our lines. This has allowed us to use the single cleat quite effectively. With all mooring lines always left on the dock including spring lines the geometry stays fixed and we don't have to re-align them each time we come back to the marina.
Serge
Ty #1700
'Cloning Around'



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