ANDERSON WINCHES..any opinions?

[Larry DeMers]

I am looking at replacing our two Lewmar #6 sheet winches with an Anderson winch..probably their 12T model. This is going on our CD30. Is there anyone with Amderson winch experince? How do they compare to others, and was the quality over time worth the money?

TIA,

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30



demers@sgi.com

[Ben Thomas]

I am looking at replacing our two Lewmar #6 sheet winches with an Anderson winch..probably their 12T model. This is going on our CD30. Is there anyone with Amderson winch experince? How do they compare to others, and was the quality over time worth the money?

TIA,

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30

Larry, Last year I replaced all the lewmar winches onboard my 30 with anderson winches, for the main and staysail sheet I used the #10 it matches the lewmar #6 very easy to reinstall holes match and lineup. The #10s went on the three halyards on mast, same easy install matched right up. A #10 went on the starboard side of boom for the two reef lines and the outhaul, run through triple clutch. For the yankee and gennaker sheets
I used the 28st. You have to drill new holes but easy install. Here, looking back I would now use the 40st. a little more beef with the gennaker sheets. Port side forward of stern rail stanchion and cleat I mounted a 12st for the tack line of the gennaker. All in all they are excellent winches with the vertical ribs I call them my sure grip grabbers. that rib design holds much better than the roughed up squirrely surface of my old lewmars. I just take a single turn on main and staysail as they grip so well you can't bleed off the sheets so well with more than one turn.
You might check out sailnet.com they are having a special on anderson winches. These puppies are spendy but in my estimation after a full season with them they are the best I've ever used. depending on the size and shape of your dodger a larger winch may be a bit cramped on the outboard location (staysail). Think Spring! Ben



bt@benthomaslandscapers.com

[will parker]

Larry,
I just recently did the identical thing. The No. 16 Lewmar's provided by Cape Dory were certainly inadequate for the job. I elected to go with Andersen No. 28's, self tailing. They fit quite nicely on the winch stand and they work wonderfully. I bought them for $600 each from a place called "Sailorman" in Fort Lauderdale, whcih was a real discount from West Marine listed price. Later I got a flyer from "Sailnet.com" [formerly JSI] offering the same price
Sailorman is obviously impractical for you but you might try Sailnet.com, since they are on the internet. They may still be offering that price. They offer free shipping when you buy on-line.
I think you will be much happier with the 28's than with the 12T model. The 12T's appear no bigger than the Lewmar No. 16's.
I guess the thinking at Cape Dory must have been that the Lewmar's would have been used only with a Yankee jib, not expecting most of us to upgrade to 140 or higher.
Anyway good luck and keep us informed.
Will
"Jambalaya"
CD 30
P.S.
I've almost finished insulating around my icebox, generally following your application advice. That urethane foam is the stickiest stuff to work with and even though the can says "minimal expansion", it still seems to expand quite a bit. Anyway, I'm hoping for noticable improvement if we survive the latest hurricane.

I am looking at replacing our two Lewmar #6 sheet winches with an Anderson winch..probably their 12T model. This is going on our CD30. Is there anyone with Amderson winch experince? How do they compare to others, and was the quality over time worth the money?

TIA,

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30

whildenp@flinet.com

[Larry DeMers]

Will,

I was just browsing thru the Sailnet flyer, and noted those Anderson winches on sale at 50% off, so that got me thinking again about replacing those Lewmars. The Self-tailing has sold me I guess, as it will make it easier to make small sheet adjustments with one hand, instead of two.
The 12T was chosen to replace the Lewmar 6's that we have onboard..they appeared to be the same size alright, and to have about the same mechanical advantage (~9:1). So perhaps you are right.. the next size up would be a good upgrade, as we also use a 140% genoa, and the loads do get larger than a yankee would produce, by 50% I bet.


Thanks,

Larry

Larry,
I just recently did the identical thing. The No. 16 Lewmar's provided by Cape Dory were certainly inadequate for the job. I elected to go with Andersen No. 28's, self tailing. They fit quite nicely on the winch stand and they work wonderfully. I bought them for $600 each from a place called "Sailorman" in Fort Lauderdale, whcih was a real discount from West Marine listed price. Later I got a flyer from "Sailnet.com" [formerly JSI] offering the same price
Sailorman is obviously impractical for you but you might try Sailnet.com, since they are on the internet. They may still be offering that price. They offer free shipping when you buy on-line.
I think you will be much happier with the 28's than with the 12T model. The 12T's appear no bigger than the Lewmar No. 16's.
I guess the thinking at Cape Dory must have been that the Lewmar's would have been used only with a Yankee jib, not expecting most of us to upgrade to 140 or higher.
Anyway good luck and keep us informed.
Will
"Jambalaya"
CD 30
P.S.
I've almost finished insulating around my icebox, generally following your application advice. That urethane foam is the stickiest stuff to work with and even though the can says "minimal expansion", it still seems to expand quite a bit. Anyway, I'm hoping for noticable improvement if we survive the latest hurricane.

I am looking at replacing our two Lewmar #6 sheet winches with an Anderson winch..probably their 12T model. This is going on our CD30. Is there anyone with Amderson winch experince? How do they compare to others, and was the quality over time worth the money?

TIA,

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30

demers@sgi.com

[Joe Sankey]

Larry, FWIW I upgraded our former Slow Dance, a CD28, to Lewmar 30STs to help with a then new 155% genoa w/roller furling. The bronze winch pads pose a potential size problem, but in retrospect 40s would have been much, much better. If you're using about a 135 or so, 30s or equivalent should be fine, in terms of equivalent power. Our currnet Slow Dance, CD30 came to use with Lewmar 30ST (earlier type) and the largest headsail is a 120%. So far no problems, but have sailed it only a little. The headsail sizes on the 28 and 30 are quite similar.

Will,

I was just browsing thru the Sailnet flyer, and noted those Anderson winches on sale at 50% off, so that got me thinking again about replacing those Lewmars. The Self-tailing has sold me I guess, as it will make it easier to make small sheet adjustments with one hand, instead of two.
The 12T was chosen to replace the Lewmar 6's that we have onboard..they appeared to be the same size alright, and to have about the same mechanical advantage (~9:1). So perhaps you are right.. the next size up would be a good upgrade, as we also use a 140% genoa, and the loads do get larger than a yankee would produce, by 50% I bet.


Thanks,

Larry

Larry,
I just recently did the identical thing. The No. 16 Lewmar's provided by Cape Dory were certainly inadequate for the job. I elected to go with Andersen No. 28's, self tailing. They fit quite nicely on the winch stand and they work wonderfully. I bought them for $600 each from a place called "Sailorman" in Fort Lauderdale, whcih was a real discount from West Marine listed price. Later I got a flyer from "Sailnet.com" [formerly JSI] offering the same price
Sailorman is obviously impractical for you but you might try Sailnet.com, since they are on the internet. They may still be offering that price. They offer free shipping when you buy on-line.
I think you will be much happier with the 28's than with the 12T model. The 12T's appear no bigger than the Lewmar No. 16's.
I guess the thinking at Cape Dory must have been that the Lewmar's would have been used only with a Yankee jib, not expecting most of us to upgrade to 140 or higher.
Anyway good luck and keep us informed.
Will
"Jambalaya"
CD 30
P.S.
I've almost finished insulating around my icebox, generally following your application advice. That urethane foam is the stickiest stuff to work with and even though the can says "minimal expansion", it still seems to expand quite a bit. Anyway, I'm hoping for noticable improvement if we survive the latest hurricane.

I am looking at replacing our two Lewmar #6 sheet winches with an Anderson winch..probably their 12T model. This is going on our CD30. Is there anyone with Amderson winch experince? How do they compare to others, and was the quality over time worth the money?

TIA,

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30

sankey@gulfel.com

[Larry DeMers]

Thanks for the help..I think the 28ST is the way I'll go then. 2-speed and self-tailing to boot! Looks like another spring project.

Cheers,

Larry

I am looking at replacing our two Lewmar #6 sheet winches with an Anderson winch..probably their 12T model. This is going on our CD30. Is there anyone with Amderson winch experince? How do they compare to others, and was the quality over time worth the money?

TIA,

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30

Larry, Last year I replaced all the lewmar winches onboard my 30 with anderson winches, for the main and staysail sheet I used the #10 it matches the lewmar #6 very easy to reinstall holes match and lineup. The #10s went on the three halyards on mast, same easy install matched right up. A #10 went on the starboard side of boom for the two reef lines and the outhaul, run through triple clutch. For the yankee and gennaker sheets
I used the 28st. You have to drill new holes but easy install. Here, looking back I would now use the 40st. a little more beef with the gennaker sheets. Port side forward of stern rail stanchion and cleat I mounted a 12st for the tack line of the gennaker. All in all they are excellent winches with the vertical ribs I call them my sure grip grabbers. that rib design holds much better than the roughed up squirrely surface of my old lewmars. I just take a single turn on main and staysail as they grip so well you can't bleed off the sheets so well with more than one turn.
You might check out sailnet.com they are having a special on anderson winches. These puppies are spendy but in my estimation after a full season with them they are the best I've ever used. depending on the size and shape of your dodger a larger winch may be a bit cramped on the outboard location (staysail). Think Spring! Ben

demers@sgi.com