How much rode for CD-28?

[Mike Thompson]

I have CD-28 Sloop #127. There is 200' of 1/2" nylon rode and 6'
of 3/8 chain. Sometimes after hauling in the anchor, the bow locker
seems full but it does settle down after a while.

I would like a longer rode and a heavier one. Is 1/2" enough?
How much rode have other CD-28 owners manged to get into the
locker?

Mike
HAVEN



tmike@ma.ultranet.com

[will parker]

When the wind starts blowing @ 40kts or more, whatever you have does not seem big enough! I have a CD 30 and I use 60 [sixty] feet of 5/16" HT chain spliced to 250 feet of 5/8" 3 strand for my primary anchor which is a 33# Bruce. Six feet of chain is not enough no matter what size chain you use. The purpose of chain is twofold: avoid chafe on your rode and hold the anchor shank parallel to the bottom. Always use High Tensile chain (HT) because it is stronger than BBB and lighter weight. Get rid of the 3/8" whatever? and get 5/16" HT. But you will need a shackle which is one size bigger than uyour chain. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to find HT shackle. It is also hard to find shackles with the same working load limit (WLL) as the chain. The shackle is therefore the weak link. How much rode you actually deploy, of course, depends on the depth of the water you are anchoring in. Minimally you want to use a 7 to 1 ratio (7 feet of rode to every foot of depth measured from the bow of your boat, and accounting for tide changes).
Always assume that the worst will happen whenever you anchor and prepare for it, because it might be too late when it hits. And never, never use a "lunch hook"!
Will
"Jambalaya"


I have CD-28 Sloop #127. There is 200' of 1/2" nylon rode and 6'

of 3/8 chain. Sometimes after hauling in the anchor, the bow locker
seems full but it does settle down after a while.

I would like a longer rode and a heavier one. Is 1/2" enough?
How much rode have other CD-28 owners manged to get into the
locker?

Mike
HAVEN

whildenp@flinet.com

[Joe Sankey]

You should have plenty of room. I agree you need more chain, although I am not famililar with your cruising grounds. Ours is mostly sand or mud; our 28 (we now have a 30 which I hope to set up this same way) came to use with the locker divided so two rodes could flake from separate hawse pipes, set up fore/aft. It had two rodes with 15-20' of chain. One was 7/16" (200+') on a 12H Danforth. The other was 200+' of 1/2" on a 25# CQR. Plenty of room.

I have CD-28 Sloop #127. There is 200' of 1/2" nylon rode and 6'
of 3/8 chain. Sometimes after hauling in the anchor, the bow locker
seems full but it does settle down after a while.

I would like a longer rode and a heavier one. Is 1/2" enough?
How much rode have other CD-28 owners manged to get into the
locker?

Mike
HAVEN

sankey@gulftel.com

[Mike Thompson]

Is your anchor-rode locker the standard size or was it modified?
Mine has a bulkhead which is 39 inches from the bow (measured on the inside). The bulkhead is plywood which is glassed on the cabin side.
The base of the anchor rode locker is above the water tank.

Are you hawse pipes both drilled though the wood of the bow sprit?

Mike

You should have plenty of room. I agree you need more chain, although I am not famililar with your cruising grounds. Ours is mostly sand or mud; our 28 (we now have a 30 which I hope to set up this same way) came to use with the locker divided so two rodes could flake from separate hawse pipes, set up fore/aft. It had two rodes with 15-20' of chain. One was 7/16" (200+') on a 12H Danforth. The other was 200+' of 1/2" on a 25# CQR. Plenty of room.

I have CD-28 Sloop #127. There is 200' of 1/2" nylon rode and 6'
of 3/8 chain. Sometimes after hauling in the anchor, the bow locker
seems full but it does settle down after a while.

I would like a longer rode and a heavier one. Is 1/2" enough?
How much rode have other CD-28 owners manged to get into the
locker?

Mike
HAVEN

tmike@ma.ultranet.com

[Mike thompson]

Is there any CD28 owner out there with either a longer or a heavier
rode than the one described below?

I have CD-28 Sloop #127. There is 200' of 1/2" nylon rode and 6'
of 3/8 chain. Sometimes after hauling in the anchor, the bow locker
seems full but it does settle down after a while.

I would like a longer rode and a heavier one. Is 1/2" enough?
How much rode have other CD-28 owners manged to get into the
locker?

Mike
HAVEN

tmike@ma.ultranet.com

[Mike thompson]

Is there any CD28 owner out there with either a longer or a heavier
rode than the one described below?

I have CD-28 Sloop #127. There is 200' of 1/2" nylon rode and 6'
of 3/8 chain. Sometimes after hauling in the anchor, the bow locker
seems full but it does settle down after a while.

I would like a longer rode and a heavier one. Is 1/2" enough?
How much rode have other CD-28 owners manged to get into the
locker?

Mike
HAVEN

tmike@ma.ultranet.com

[Glenn Kendall]

I have CD-28 Sloop #127. There is 200' of 1/2" nylon rode and 6'
of 3/8 chain. Sometimes after hauling in the anchor, the bow locker
seems full but it does settle down after a while.

I would like a longer rode and a heavier one. Is 1/2" enough?
How much rode have other CD-28 owners manged to get into the
locker?

I concur with Will Parker's observation that 6 feet of chain is not enough. How much depends on local conditions. Here in the Chesapeake, I'm using 20 feet which is about double the norm. I'd say 10' is the minimum for a relatively benign(sp?) anchoring environment like the Chesapeake. Sixty to 90 feet is for a go-anywhere scenario; go to 90 if you'll be around coral (and then don't trust it anyway). Ditto on going higher on the nylon part of the rode. I did fine with a half-inch for several years but went to 5/8 or 3/4 (memory is fleeting after all) and am glad for the extra diameter. Ditto on the shackle: go one size higher than the chain size and go high tensile on both the shackle and the chain. Length of rode depends on expected anchoring depths and how calm the waters are where you'll be achoring. 200 feet seems like the minimum for any sort of cruising. I disagree with Will Parker that you always need a 7 to 1 scope. For lunch stops, in a quiet place, when you're eating topsides, a 3 to 1 might suffice for an hour or so. Overnights 5 to 1 might be OK sometimes (mild conditions all around), especially if you have a little more chain than you're used to carrying. BTW, another good reason to carry a bit more chain is that it makes it safe to shorten up and that can be nice in a crowded achorage where most people will have ignored Will's advice to put out 7 to 1. You can shorten scope, swing with the crowd, and still be safe (well, safer). Also, if you're in a steep-wave environment like the Chesapeake, you'll pound less with less weight in the bow.



gkendall@cms.hhs.gov

[Neil Gordon]

Is there any CD28 owner out there with either a longer or a heavier

rode ...<<

I use 200' of 1/2 inch rode, but with 30' of chain. I also carry a secondary rode of 150' of 1/2 inch. Primary anchor is a danforth 22S... the lunch hook, which I hardly ever use, is a 15# CQR.


Regards, Neil
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[Neil Gordon]

7 to 1 might be nice, but consider the limitations and/or the length of rode you have to carry.

Locally, we have a 10 ft tide. So drawing 4 ft, you need to allow a minimum of 14 ft... plus 4 feet (or so) from the water to the bow chock... that's 18 feet... X 7 is 126 ft already. Put 6 ft under the keel (perhaps to allow for swinging into shallower water) and you're up to 168 ft.

Better to carry more chain... I use 30'... and plan on 5 to 1.


Regards, Neil
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Cape Dory 28 #167



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