To the Captain of the Hanalei, who remains a humble servant
Moderator: Jim Walsh
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Mark Yashinsky
To the Captain of the Hanalei, who remains a humble servant
"Remaining a most humble servant", means what??? That you in someone else's shadow and dont want to rise above them??? Yet there is always that reminder of "#1". Didnt sound like you were anyone's servant (humble or otherwise) when getting that #1.
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Michael Heintz
Re: HUMBLE indeed!!!!!!
Captain Yashinsky,
You are correct sir.....Captain Stump hardly seems HUMBLE in regards to being # 1
I remain Sir your most HUMBLE servant.....
Captain Commanding
Racing Sloop Macht Nichts CD 30 MK II
#2 (spinnaker division).....Looking foreword to #1 position next year!!!
You are correct sir.....Captain Stump hardly seems HUMBLE in regards to being # 1
I remain Sir your most HUMBLE servant.....
Captain Commanding
Racing Sloop Macht Nichts CD 30 MK II
#2 (spinnaker division).....Looking foreword to #1 position next year!!!
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Mark Yashinsky
Not Captain
So does that mean you are humble in comparison to the Captain of the Hanalei or humble in general??? And whom are you a servant to??? Does Captain Kaplan feel the same way (humble and/or a servant)???
Also, dont call me Captain. Just an Engineer, at heart (Just ask Captain Goldsmith).
Also, dont call me Captain. Just an Engineer, at heart (Just ask Captain Goldsmith).
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Michael Heintz
"Lady Catherine"...indeed..Report from: Captain Mark Yashins
Report from: Captain/Engineer Mark Yashinsky
"I have heard reports that the Lady Catherine is getting a set of high performance racing sails, dyed to look like her existing Tan Bark's. Could this be the reason that Captain Kaplan is planning a run down the East River (secret rendezvous, down in NJ)??? Dumping Captain Heintz in favor of another???"
Mzenith@aol.com
"I have heard reports that the Lady Catherine is getting a set of high performance racing sails, dyed to look like her existing Tan Bark's. Could this be the reason that Captain Kaplan is planning a run down the East River (secret rendezvous, down in NJ)??? Dumping Captain Heintz in favor of another???"
Mzenith@aol.com
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Warren Kaplan
Re: Not Captain
To Engineer (not Captain) Yashinsky,Mark Yashinsky wrote: So does that mean you are humble in comparison to the Captain of the Hanalei or humble in general??? And whom are you a servant to??? Does Captain Kaplan feel the same way (humble and/or a servant)???
Also, dont call me Captain. Just an Engineer, at heart (Just ask Captain Goldsmith).
If memory serves, I have never used the words "humble" or "servant" in any of my communications. I do believe their use in the present discourse is more for their propaganda value than any true representation of attitude. But that is understood by all in the game so I feel the gambit has limited value if any at all.
Warren Kaplan
S/V Sine Qua Non
CD27
Setsail728@aol.com
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Michael Heintz
Are you joining us next year
Captain Yashinsky,
The post from Catherine can be found if you scroll down a bit. But let me share with you the most important line from that post quoting from Catherine........"If said cutter starts on time next year, all other CD crews should be fearful. So be afraid. Be very afraid."
So there you have it. I am....so afraid....shaking as I type.....
The CD fleet should be thankful, that we fired water balloons only, for the damage could have be so much greater......
We could have knocked out the entire NE Fleet..... But alas.. then there would have been no one to race....... Perhaps I should have just taken out Pirate Captain Stump........Then we would not have to listen to this # 1... But It does give me something to look foreword to next year....and that is the total annihilation of Hanalei and her Pirate Captain. As to Catherine.....mmmmmmm... I hope those Tan Bark sails don't slow her down !!!!!!
I remain Sir... Your Most HUMBLE servant.......
and Mark... will you join us next year?
Captain Commanding
Macht Nichts
Racing Sloop CD 30 MK II
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The post from Catherine can be found if you scroll down a bit. But let me share with you the most important line from that post quoting from Catherine........"If said cutter starts on time next year, all other CD crews should be fearful. So be afraid. Be very afraid."
So there you have it. I am....so afraid....shaking as I type.....
The CD fleet should be thankful, that we fired water balloons only, for the damage could have be so much greater......
We could have knocked out the entire NE Fleet..... But alas.. then there would have been no one to race....... Perhaps I should have just taken out Pirate Captain Stump........Then we would not have to listen to this # 1... But It does give me something to look foreword to next year....and that is the total annihilation of Hanalei and her Pirate Captain. As to Catherine.....mmmmmmm... I hope those Tan Bark sails don't slow her down !!!!!!
I remain Sir... Your Most HUMBLE servant.......
and Mark... will you join us next year?
Captain Commanding
Macht Nichts
Racing Sloop CD 30 MK II
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Michael Heintz
Are you joining us next year
Captain Yashinsky,
The post from Catherine can be found if you scroll down a bit. But let me share with you the most important line from that post quoting from Catherine........"If said cutter starts on time next year, all other CD crews should be fearful. So be afraid. Be very afraid."
So there you have it. I am....so afraid....shaking as I type.....
The CD fleet should be thankful, that we fired water balloons only, for the damage could have be so much greater......
We could have knocked out the entire NE Fleet..... But alas.. then there would have been no one to race....... Perhaps I should have just taken out Pirate Captain Stump........Then we would not have to listen to this # 1... But It does give me something to look foreword to next year....and that is the total annihilation of Hanalei and her Pirate Captain. As to Catherine.....mmmmmmm... I hope those Tan Bark sails don't slow her down !!!!!!
I remain Sir... Your Most HUMBLE servant.......
and Mark... will you join us next year?
Captain Commanding
Macht Nichts
Racing Sloop CD 30 MK II
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The post from Catherine can be found if you scroll down a bit. But let me share with you the most important line from that post quoting from Catherine........"If said cutter starts on time next year, all other CD crews should be fearful. So be afraid. Be very afraid."
So there you have it. I am....so afraid....shaking as I type.....
The CD fleet should be thankful, that we fired water balloons only, for the damage could have be so much greater......
We could have knocked out the entire NE Fleet..... But alas.. then there would have been no one to race....... Perhaps I should have just taken out Pirate Captain Stump........Then we would not have to listen to this # 1... But It does give me something to look foreword to next year....and that is the total annihilation of Hanalei and her Pirate Captain. As to Catherine.....mmmmmmm... I hope those Tan Bark sails don't slow her down !!!!!!
I remain Sir... Your Most HUMBLE servant.......
and Mark... will you join us next year?
Captain Commanding
Macht Nichts
Racing Sloop CD 30 MK II
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Don Carr
Did Spin Rating even apply?
I am truly confused. Maybe some of you 'seasoned' racers can tell me.
Did the spinnaker PHRF adjustment even count in the BI race? I would
kindly welcome opinions. I'll make the statement that the spin ratings did not come into play at all and if they did no adjustment to start times were made. So finish position is finish position regardless of 'class'.
carrds@us.ibm.com
Did the spinnaker PHRF adjustment even count in the BI race? I would
kindly welcome opinions. I'll make the statement that the spin ratings did not come into play at all and if they did no adjustment to start times were made. So finish position is finish position regardless of 'class'.
carrds@us.ibm.com
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Captain Commanding, Hanal
Re: CD-32 and PHRF...? ?
Captain Commanding
Macht Nichts,
Sir, my respects this day, and two questions for you and the remainder of the Fleet. First, if said CD-32 actually passed SEVEN (7) other CDs even with a late start, was the PHRF assigned actually correct? Understand Sir, I am not complainin', as Hanalei passed ALL of you except those that started after the CD-30s, but I am just wondering if the PHRF was correct? After all, a PHRF had NEVER been calculated for this type of vessel before. Maybe John Martin can comment on this?
Second, was Macht Nichts at sea yesterday last? Hanalei was, simply maintainin' the hi'h state of readiness of the crew. Hanalei left the slip with DOUBLE reefed main, saw 20-25 knot winds from the NE. Green water over the bows quite often! There was one problem, the Captain, when settin' the second reef, tied the aft crin'le too tight, this resulted in a tear of about 4' len'th just above aft second reef point. So, the main is off her, and it is on the way to the sail loft for a little palm & needle work by the Bosun's Mates. Darn, and doesn't the Captain hate it when that happens!
Well, with no mains'l on her, nothing to do but clean the chimney for the woodstove today at the Captain's quarters in town! Good day to you Sir,......I remain,...your MOST HUMBLE Servant...........
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C "#1"
Macht Nichts,
Sir, my respects this day, and two questions for you and the remainder of the Fleet. First, if said CD-32 actually passed SEVEN (7) other CDs even with a late start, was the PHRF assigned actually correct? Understand Sir, I am not complainin', as Hanalei passed ALL of you except those that started after the CD-30s, but I am just wondering if the PHRF was correct? After all, a PHRF had NEVER been calculated for this type of vessel before. Maybe John Martin can comment on this?
Second, was Macht Nichts at sea yesterday last? Hanalei was, simply maintainin' the hi'h state of readiness of the crew. Hanalei left the slip with DOUBLE reefed main, saw 20-25 knot winds from the NE. Green water over the bows quite often! There was one problem, the Captain, when settin' the second reef, tied the aft crin'le too tight, this resulted in a tear of about 4' len'th just above aft second reef point. So, the main is off her, and it is on the way to the sail loft for a little palm & needle work by the Bosun's Mates. Darn, and doesn't the Captain hate it when that happens!
Well, with no mains'l on her, nothing to do but clean the chimney for the woodstove today at the Captain's quarters in town! Good day to you Sir,......I remain,...your MOST HUMBLE Servant...........
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C "#1"
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Catherine Monaghan
Re: CD-32 and PHRF...? ?
Dave,
All of the boats we passed were smaller than our 32 and terribly over-canvassed for the conditions at the time. Even Realization slogged down after travelling at speeds over 7 knots to about 4.6+/- until we reefed. After reefing our speed increased back up into the high 6s. If the others had reefed as well, perhaps we wouldn't have overtaken them -- don't know.
Cathy
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
All of the boats we passed were smaller than our 32 and terribly over-canvassed for the conditions at the time. Even Realization slogged down after travelling at speeds over 7 knots to about 4.6+/- until we reefed. After reefing our speed increased back up into the high 6s. If the others had reefed as well, perhaps we wouldn't have overtaken them -- don't know.
Cathy
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
Captain Commanding, Hanalei wrote: Captain Commanding
Macht Nichts,
Sir, my respects this day, and two questions for you and the remainder of the Fleet. First, if said CD-32 actually passed SEVEN (7) other CDs even with a late start, was the PHRF assigned actually correct? Understand Sir, I am not complainin', as Hanalei passed ALL of you except those that started after the CD-30s, but I am just wondering if the PHRF was correct? After all, a PHRF had NEVER been calculated for this type of vessel before. Maybe John Martin can comment on this?
Second, was Macht Nichts at sea yesterday last? Hanalei was, simply maintainin' the hi'h state of readiness of the crew. Hanalei left the slip with DOUBLE reefed main, saw 20-25 knot winds from the NE. Green water over the bows quite often! There was one problem, the Captain, when settin' the second reef, tied the aft crin'le too tight, this resulted in a tear of about 4' len'th just above aft second reef point. So, the main is off her, and it is on the way to the sail loft for a little palm & needle work by the Bosun's Mates. Darn, and doesn't the Captain hate it when that happens!
Well, with no mains'l on her, nothing to do but clean the chimney for the woodstove today at the Captain's quarters in town! Good day to you Sir,......I remain,...your MOST HUMBLE Servant...........
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C "#1"
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
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D. Stump Hanalei
Re: I suspect......
Captain Monaghan,
I suspect that many of them were overpowered as they didn't WANT to reef down or didn't want to take the chance. The reason for this is quite clear, we (CDers)are generally fair weather sailors, and are not used to reefing in a gale. You Sir, and your crew are an example. You stated that when you finally decided to reef, you changed helmsman, got rigged in safety gear, STARTED the iron genny, turned into the wind and reefed her. That reef should have been able to be set while you were under sail! Point to weather, ease the mainsheet till she floggs, pull in the reef with the jib still giving stearage way, tie in the cringles and ya done! But, and this is a BIG but, you can't do this cold, it must be practiced before it is ever NEEDED. And they waited too long! Reefs need to be set BEFORE they are REQUIRED.
Hanalei never reefed that day, when she appeared over powered, the Captain eased the mainsheet till a bubble appeared in the luff of the main, it was backwinded by the jib, and she was off and running! But we were really close to needing to reef!
That hull speed of yours is REALLY something! Makes me want a bigger boat! Guess I'll have t settle for a new main though....
Dave Stump
I suspect that many of them were overpowered as they didn't WANT to reef down or didn't want to take the chance. The reason for this is quite clear, we (CDers)are generally fair weather sailors, and are not used to reefing in a gale. You Sir, and your crew are an example. You stated that when you finally decided to reef, you changed helmsman, got rigged in safety gear, STARTED the iron genny, turned into the wind and reefed her. That reef should have been able to be set while you were under sail! Point to weather, ease the mainsheet till she floggs, pull in the reef with the jib still giving stearage way, tie in the cringles and ya done! But, and this is a BIG but, you can't do this cold, it must be practiced before it is ever NEEDED. And they waited too long! Reefs need to be set BEFORE they are REQUIRED.
Hanalei never reefed that day, when she appeared over powered, the Captain eased the mainsheet till a bubble appeared in the luff of the main, it was backwinded by the jib, and she was off and running! But we were really close to needing to reef!
That hull speed of yours is REALLY something! Makes me want a bigger boat! Guess I'll have t settle for a new main though....
Dave Stump
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Catherine Monaghan
Re: I suspect......
Dave,
During the race I wanted the main reefed as quickly and safely as possible, so we used the engine for the few minutes that it took to complete the reef. We've reefed while hove-to but never while uderway; we'll have to try it.
By the way, we were out sailing in that gale over the weekend (during the Atlantic Highlands Get-Together 9/29-30). On our return trip on Sunday, we reached a top speed of 7.9 knots! As on Saturday, we travelled 18 nautical miles in about 2.5 hours! And that was towing an inflatable dingy that we really should have stowed (it had been stowed for Saturday's trip). It was blowing so hard that the dingy became airborne whenever it reached a wave crest and flipped over (good thing it was empty to begin with), then the raised bow, now pointing downward, would dig in while upside down, and it would essentially pitchpole to right itself. We tried adjusting the tow line by both lengthening it and shortening it but nothing worked. I think we would have easily topped 8 knots if were didn't have that dingy in tow.
Anyway, I learned alot about towing a dingy in gale conditions and will never do it again.
Cathy
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
During the race I wanted the main reefed as quickly and safely as possible, so we used the engine for the few minutes that it took to complete the reef. We've reefed while hove-to but never while uderway; we'll have to try it.
By the way, we were out sailing in that gale over the weekend (during the Atlantic Highlands Get-Together 9/29-30). On our return trip on Sunday, we reached a top speed of 7.9 knots! As on Saturday, we travelled 18 nautical miles in about 2.5 hours! And that was towing an inflatable dingy that we really should have stowed (it had been stowed for Saturday's trip). It was blowing so hard that the dingy became airborne whenever it reached a wave crest and flipped over (good thing it was empty to begin with), then the raised bow, now pointing downward, would dig in while upside down, and it would essentially pitchpole to right itself. We tried adjusting the tow line by both lengthening it and shortening it but nothing worked. I think we would have easily topped 8 knots if were didn't have that dingy in tow.
Anyway, I learned alot about towing a dingy in gale conditions and will never do it again.
Cathy
D. Stump Hanalei wrote: Captain Monaghan,
I suspect that many of them were overpowered as they didn't WANT to reef down or didn't want to take the chance. The reason for this is quite clear, we (CDers)are generally fair weather sailors, and are not used to reefing in a gale. You Sir, and your crew are an example. You stated that when you finally decided to reef, you changed helmsman, got rigged in safety gear, STARTED the iron genny, turned into the wind and reefed her. That reef should have been able to be set while you were under sail! Point to weather, ease the mainsheet till she floggs, pull in the reef with the jib still giving stearage way, tie in the cringles and ya done! But, and this is a BIG but, you can't do this cold, it must be practiced before it is ever NEEDED. And they waited too long! Reefs need to be set BEFORE they are REQUIRED.
Hanalei never reefed that day, when she appeared over powered, the Captain eased the mainsheet till a bubble appeared in the luff of the main, it was backwinded by the jib, and she was off and running! But we were really close to needing to reef!
That hull speed of yours is REALLY something! Makes me want a bigger boat! Guess I'll have t settle for a new main though....
Dave Stump
catherine_monaghan@merck.com