Lifting sling for CD Typhoon

[Hugh Brodie]

I bought a Ty this year. It was launched off a trailer at another marina with some difficulty (about half of the pick-up under water, an an underwater trip by an yard employee... really above and beyond!) I sailed it round to our club and kept it on a slip for the season. So now I want to lift the boat onto the trailer myself, using a crane that lifts j-24's etc in and out. There is even a lift spreader (iron beam 6 feet long, lifting eye in the middle and chain at both ends). I've seen the diagram in the manual on strap placement, and know to tie them together to prevent the bow one from sliding forward (and not to use the "lifting ring"). I'm going to buy some lifting straps, and wonder how long they should be, should I use the spreader, should I release the backstay etc. I would appreciate some practical advice from someone who'se actually done it!

Thanks



h.b@aarpc.com

[DON]

Why cant you UTILIZE THE LIFTING RING????

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[Greg Lutzow]

I bought a Ty this year. It was launched off a trailer at another marina with some difficulty (about half of the pick-up under water, an an underwater trip by an yard employee... really above and beyond!) I sailed it round to our club and kept it on a slip for the season. So now I want to lift the boat onto the trailer myself, using a crane that lifts j-24's etc in and out. There is even a lift spreader (iron beam 6 feet long, lifting eye in the middle and chain at both ends). I've seen the diagram in the manual on strap placement, and know to tie them together to prevent the bow one from sliding forward (and not to use the "lifting ring"). I'm going to buy some lifting straps, and wonder how long they should be, should I use the spreader, should I release the backstay etc. I would appreciate some practical advice from someone who'se actually done it!

Thanks

Hugh;

Living in Florida, I regularly hoist my TYW for cleaning and bottom painting at the lift on our sailing squadrons property. You should, at all tims use the spreader across the hull when you lift your boat. This eliminates side loading on the hull and prevents possible hull damage. REMOVE your mast if possible, if not at the least remove the backstay. The hoist can, and does, get hung up on the rigging. DO NOT use the "Lifting Ring". It wasn't designed to bear the weight of the complete boat, though many people seem to use them as a hoist point. As a matter of fact my 1980 Typhoon Weekender doesn't have a lifting ring. Place the lifting straps at the points indicated in the owners manual and you will have no problems lifting her from the water. I use the straps we have available for hoisting and as such don't know offhand how long they are. I can, if you desire, measure them tomorrow when I go out to sail. The job is not as difficult as it appears at first glance. Take you time, dry run the steps in your mind before you procede and insure that you go over the procedure with your helpers; have at least one. Use two lines, one secured at the bow and the other at the stern, to help guide and stabilize the boat. Do not go under the boat when it is in the air and if it starts to slip; LET IT GO; it's not worth your life and the boat can be repaired.

Greg Lutzow
CEFALU III
TYW



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[Bill Goldsmith]

Hugh,

Sounds like you have a good plan. I'm surprised that if you have a crane, there are not straps available already to use with it. If not, is it possible to rent lifting straps and shackles locally at a construction rental supply place? I don't think they are cheap to buy.

At our club we have an "X" shaped spreader on our lifting rig--I'm not that familiar with the use of a single beam. However, you should be ok if you put one strap just forward of the rudder on the keel and the second strap where it falls on the bow. Note that you may need to shorten up the bow strap so the boat sits level. I have seen CDs lifted with the aft strap under the aft overhang. That is not the recommended location for larger CDs-- I am not really sure whether you can do that with a Ty.

For the backstay, loosen and detach it at the turnbuckle, and rig a temporary backstay using the main halyard, tied to a stern cleat. This way you can uncleat the temporary quickly as needed to position the lifting rig.

Good luck!

Bill Goldsmith
CD27
Second Chance

I bought a Ty this year. It was launched off a trailer at another marina with some difficulty (about half of the pick-up under water, an an underwater trip by an yard employee... really above and beyond!) I sailed it round to our club and kept it on a slip for the season. So now I want to lift the boat onto the trailer myself, using a crane that lifts j-24's etc in and out. There is even a lift spreader (iron beam 6 feet long, lifting eye in the middle and chain at both ends). I've seen the diagram in the manual on strap placement, and know to tie them together to prevent the bow one from sliding forward (and not to use the "lifting ring"). I'm going to buy some lifting straps, and wonder how long they should be, should I use the spreader, should I release the backstay etc. I would appreciate some practical advice from someone who'se actually done it!

Thanks

goldy@bestweb.net

[Bob Chamberland]

Why cant you UTILIZE THE LIFTING RING????

Because the Cape Dory manual says not to. The ring was used to lower the lead ballast into the hull. Apparently it was not designed to lift the boat



cha62759@traverse.com

[mitch]

I know the manual does not approve, but my Ty has been launched and hauled every year since '81 using the lifting ring. I have a rather unique setup to facilitate the process. It consists of two rectangular aluminum frames that bolt onto the companionway under the sliding hatch cover. There is a chain with hook that goes to the ring in the bilge and is led up through a crossbar on the frame, then to the hoist. The frames just hold the chain in the center of the opening and keep the boat from flopping as I understand the lifting ring is below the boat's center of balance. The device keeps her very stable while dangling from the hoist. It takes only 20 minutes or so to get the boat from the water to her trailer. I'd be happy to supply a diagram if anyone is interested. Several typhoons in the area all use the same device, always with satisfactory results (ie: no fiberglass on the pavement).

Breakin' all the rules,

Mitch
Ty Galatea
#1451

[Marino Curati]

There has been some discussion in past on this subject. I wouldn't lift mine just because it's old. However, two things really bother me about that ring. One is, if they didn't intend it for lifting, why is there a perfect little access hole right above it? You'd think that if they were concerned about misuse, they would have offset it somehow to make it obviously impossible use the ring for lifting. The access hole must have been designed for something other than bilge access, because it really stinks for that purpose. I can't even fit my forearm in there and you can't see very back far at all. Secondly, if there was still concern, why not just shear the thing right off and remove all doubt?

My specualtion is that Cape Dory felt open to liability for damages if a ring were to fail and someone was to get hurt so they put the discalaimer in the manual (which I can't find in mine).

I'm around J22s, J24s, and Highlanders that are launched and retrieved on a daily basis. However, they're lighter and the rings are new and better built and even so, I've never felt comfortable being around them when they're in the air. Typhoons are getting up there in years now and even though the ring may or may not have been designed for the purpose of lifting the boat; that ring sits down in a damp bilge and I persoanlly wouldn't trust it today.

Marino Curati
Ty #74 Snug
Cleveland

[Richard Rosenberger]

I could not find anything in the manual about the ring but never the less use mine often. It makes me nervous to see the boat hanging from this old rusty ring but its location is perfect. A friend with an arial lift suspended my Ty for about 12 hours this spring just enough to get it off stands so boat could be painted. No problem!!! then we repositioned it in driveway so hauling company could pickup easier.

I know the manual does not approve, but my Ty has been launched and hauled every year since '81 using the lifting ring. I have a rather unique setup to facilitate the process. It consists of two rectangular aluminum frames that bolt onto the companionway under the sliding hatch cover. There is a chain with hook that goes to the ring in the bilge and is led up through a crossbar on the frame, then to the hoist. The frames just hold the chain in the center of the opening and keep the boat from flopping as I understand the lifting ring is below the boat's center of balance. The device keeps her very stable while dangling from the hoist. It takes only 20 minutes or so to get the boat from the water to her trailer. I'd be happy to supply a diagram if anyone is interested. Several typhoons in the area all use the same device, always with satisfactory results (ie: no fiberglass on the pavement).

Breakin' all the rules,

Mitch
Ty Galatea
#1451

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