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Paul Scribner

roller/furling

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I've got a 78 CD 28 with traditional club footing working jib. I'm considering refitting her with a new roller/furling system. Any suggestions on the kind of system (expense) and percent genny that might be best.
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Paul Scribner
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Ed Haley

Re: roller/furling

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I placed a Harken RF on my CD28 a few years back and it works well. The headsail you place on it kind of depends upon your sailing area and whether you cruise for long periods of time. I placed a 130 genny on Jasmine for use in the Thousand Island area. I had to cut the headstay and install part of the lower unit. You may need to install a halyard restrainer to avoid halyard wraps if the headsail doesn't go all the way to the upper swivel. I then had my existing sail's luff changed to fit the RF track.

An interesting article in May's (1998) Cruising World depicts a cruiser with a 110 on roller furling. If you primarily use a 130 while sailing in your area then I would use that one on the RF. The point is to find a happy medium so that you can avoid sailing it partially furled the majority of the time. There are also many sails constructed especially for RF systems.



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Tom Coons

Re: roller/furling

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Ed Haley wrote: I placed a Harken RF on my CD28 a few years back and it works well. The headsail you place on it kind of depends upon your sailing area and whether you cruise for long periods of time. I placed a 130 genny on Jasmine for use in the Thousand Island area. I had to cut the headstay and install part of the lower unit. You may need to install a halyard restrainer to avoid halyard wraps if the headsail doesn't go all the way to the upper swivel. I then had my existing sail's luff changed to fit the RF track.

An interesting article in May's (1998) Cruising World depicts a cruiser with a 110 on roller furling. If you primarily use a 130 while sailing in your area then I would use that one on the RF. The point is to find a happy medium so that you can avoid sailing it partially furled the majority of the time. There are also many sails constructed especially for RF systems.

Paul, I also put a Harken on my CD31. I'm cutter rigged so put it in place of the yankee jib and made it a 140%, because I can still use the club footed staysail if it blows up. I had a new sail made for the RF and everything has worked perfectly for almost 10 years. The above advice is excellent, although they are supposed to be roller reefing as well, they don't set very well as you roll them up because the clew moves upward as you roll them in thus stretching the leech and putting a bag in the foot of the sail. Figure to use it rolled out completely most of the time and choose a size that's appropriate for your conditions with it unreefed. The sailmaker recommended the Pro Furl over the Harken at the time for reasons I can't remember now, but they were back ordered at the time so I went with the Harken. There's some tricks to using them so don't be discouraged if you snarl it a couple of times at first, once you get it figured out you'll love it. I tend to carry more sail with it because it is so easy to set and dowse.


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Ron Brassord

Re: roller/furling

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Paul Scribner wrote: I've got a 78 CD 28 with traditional club footing working jib. I'm considering refitting her with a new roller/furling system. Any suggestions on the kind of system (expense) and percent genny that might be best.
Thanks
Paul Scribner
s/v Serenitas
I Just installed a Harken 00 furler and like it a lot. the cost was 670$ plus 100$ for a new headstay{optional] and 100 labor. It has been bullet proof in all kinds of winds. I have a 150 and am getting a 100 jib. Its on my Sea Sprite 23 . Good luck Ron



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Neil Gordon

Re: roller/furling

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Paul,

I have a CDI furler on LIQUIDITY and am happy with it. I'm also rigged so that I can use the club footed jib. My 130 genoa was converted from wire to rope luff... I kept the wire luff and use it as an inner forestay, just behind the furler. I hoist it with the jib halyard (CDI furler has its own internal halyard) and get it tight on the winch. Then I can hank on the working jib. Alternatively, a partially furled genoa can be used with the club footed jib, too. The advantage of the working jib though, is that it can be reefed.


Regards, Neil
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John

Re: roller/furling

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Paul Scribner wrote: I've got a 78 CD 28 with traditional club footing working jib. I'm considering refitting her with a new roller/furling system. Any suggestions on the kind of system (expense) and percent genny that might be best.
Thanks
Paul Scribner
s/v Serenitas

Paul,
We have a CD30 cutter with a Hood 150 Genoa on Hood's "LD" (line drive) roller furling unit. The staysail is also on a Hood "LD" unit.
Both have performed flawlessly for years. A couple of key points to consider regarding the "LD" system: Cost is comparably very low. Dependability and simplicity is very high. Use your existing headstay without modification. No maintenance. Easy furling.
When using the genoa with a cutter rig it is very helpful to backwind the genny when tacking so it will slip between the two stays. She has had the clubfoot in place for years and now we have removed it to help unclutter the foredeck. Some like the clubfoot and some don't. Genny size for you depends on your sailing conditions and habits. My guess would be a 135% to start. You can always add a drifter like UK's "Flasher" which gives spinnaker like performance but without the hassle. That would be a nice combo with a 135 genny in my opinion.
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