New Typhoon owners w/?'s re bilge pumps, replacement blocks

[Sean Morgan]

Hi folks, we're the brand new owners of Typhoon hull #1361. She's in terrific shape, having been recently re-gelcoated and Awl-Grip'd. As luck would have it we are the third owners, last owner had her for 22 years!

On to my questions - how do some of you handle water in the bilge - manual pump, 12V, etc....Also does anyone know if there exsists any look alike Schaefer 02-72's?

Thanks in advance, Sean
Irie (Three Little Birds)



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[Jim Sullivan]

Hi folks, we're the brand new owners of Typhoon hull #1361. She's in terrific shape, having been recently re-gelcoated and Awl-Grip'd. As luck would have it we are the third owners, last owner had her for 22 years!

On to my questions - how do some of you handle water in the bilge - manual pump, 12V, etc....Also does anyone know if there exsists any look alike Schaefer 02-72's?

Thanks in advance, Sean

How much water do you get in the bilge? I've been sailing a Ty Weekender(1971, #189) for the past 8 years and never have had water in the bilge. Boat is on a mooring during the season. I do get some rain water that accumulates in the area below the cockpit where the thru hulls connect to the hoses but usually this amount can be sponged up quickly. If you have the Daysailor model, I can understand water in the bilge but in the Weekender, I am not aware of the need to pump the bilge on a regular basis unless there is a leak in the hull or one of the thru hull fittings, hose connections, etc.






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[John Hitchcock]

So far, you have not gotten much useful information. I have a Ty on the Pacific Coast and do some heavy sailing. I get water in the bilge which i pump out with a small plunger type bilge pump. I fashioned a board with a hole in it that will fit the opening into the bilge. I clamped some wooden rings that fit around the plunger casing. I positioned the plunger in the board to be a 1/4 of an inch off the bottom of the bilge and clamped into place with the wooden rings, one above and one below the board. I can then hold the pump in place with my foot and pump the bilge, discharging the water into the cockpit. Hope this is useful.
John

Hi folks, we're the brand new owners of Typhoon hull #1361. She's in terrific shape, having been recently re-gelcoated and Awl-Grip'd. As luck would have it we are the third owners, last owner had her for 22 years!

On to my questions - how do some of you handle water in the bilge - manual pump, 12V, etc....Also does anyone know if there exsists any look alike Schaefer 02-72's?

Thanks in advance, Sean
Irie (Three Little Birds)

hitchcockj@earthlink.net

[Jim Sullivan]

So far, you have not gotten much useful information. I have a Ty on the Pacific Coast and do some heavy sailing. I get water in the bilge which i pump out with a small plunger type bilge pump. I fashioned a board with a hole in it that will fit the opening into the bilge. I clamped some wooden rings that fit around the plunger casing. I positioned the plunger in the board to be a 1/4 of an inch off the bottom of the bilge and clamped into place with the wooden rings, one above and one below the board. I can then hold the pump in place with my foot and pump the bilge, discharging the water into the cockpit. Hope this is useful.

I bought a hand pump years ago and after several years of never using it finally gave it away. If I had to pump the bilge, I certainly would use a pump that you described but I would stow it after use. I trust that you stow this apparatus after use and do not leave it in place. I sail in comparable conditions that also bring sea water aboard but not to the extent that it accumulates in the bilge. In my opinion, one should first address the possibility of a leak if excessive water accumulates in the bilge. If there is a leak, the use of a hand pump is merely a temporary solution for a potentially serious problem.

Hi folks, we're the brand new owners of Typhoon hull #1361. She's in terrific shape, having been recently re-gelcoated and Awl-Grip'd. As luck would have it we are the third owners, last owner had her for 22 years!

On to my questions - how do some of you handle water in the bilge - manual pump, 12V, etc....Also does anyone know if there exsists any look alike Schaefer 02-72's?

Thanks in advance, Sean
Irie (Three Little Birds)

atea@att.net

[Joel]

I've had a Ty for 15 years and often have to pump out the bilge, especially after a heavy rain. I believe some water comes in through the small gap below the companionway hatch, a little seeps in around the seat "locker" covers, some through a cabin vent, but not enough so that even if I don't get to sail her for several months that I have to worry about her sinking. A little water accumulates in the space where the seacocks are, but not enough to worry about. I consider this normal.

I use a hand pump to move the water to the cockpit. I didn't have to make any changes to anything to make this work - the cover to the bilge is about 6" square, comes out easily and provides plenty of access. If I've ever spent more than 5 minutes pumping water before a sail, I'd be very surprised, and I usually don't have to pump at all.

I hope this is helpful.

Joel
Pokey II
'73 Ty Weekender
#549

Hi folks, we're the brand new owners of Typhoon hull #1361. She's in terrific shape, having been recently re-gelcoated and Awl-Grip'd. As luck would have it we are the third owners, last owner had her for 22 years!

On to my questions - how do some of you handle water in the bilge - manual pump, 12V, etc....Also does anyone know if there exsists any look alike Schaefer 02-72's?

Thanks in advance, Sean
Irie (Three Little Birds)

bondy_joel@hotmail.com

[Mike Holmes]

Sean,
I assume the Schaefer 02-72 blocks to which you referred are the
Genoa sheet turning blocks that mount on the toe rail with T-track.
These blocks are, as you apparently already know, no longer made by
Schaefer. I recently replaced mine with Schaefer 03-72 which are
the same excepting only that they are designed for up to 7/16 line
diameter whereas the 02-72 were designed for 5/16. Since I use 3/8
diameter Genoa sheets (for comfort) the 03-72 are working just fine.
Congratulations on aquiring an excellent boat. You'll not regret it.
Mike Holmes, Hull 1484, Therapy



popeye@mindspring.com

[Bob Bernier]

Sean;

A bilge pump is a vital piece of safety equipment that you should have aboard, permanently installed. Further, it should be installed such that you can operate the pump while at the helm.

I have a "Guzzler 500" diaphragm pump mounted behind the vertical portion of the starboard cockpit seat, about 6-in. above the sole. The pump has a mounting plate that allows cockpit operation without any water coming in. The handle for the pump is detacable and stored to the underside of the cockpit locker lid with schock cord for easy access. The pump inlet & outlet connect to 1-1/2" hose. The suction (inlet) goes to a strainer located in the bilge and the outlet goes to a "Marelon" 1-1/2" thru-hull fitting, which is located 3-in. above the waterline.
Mount the pump so that the pumping motion is "up-n-down" as opposed to "side-to-side" - the motion being more efficient and less tiring. Also, avoid the use of corrugated hose as that decreases the efficiency of the pump.

"Defender" has the best prices by far and shipping is reliable. You can also get a good look at the pump construction from the photos.

Another option is a hi-capacity "lift-pump" from "Beckson". It has permanent mountings, is constructed of robust materials, has a 3"-dia. piston, stainless steel shaft and an aluminum "D" handle, and can be mounted in many different configurations.

I'm a bit disappointed in reading the advise that is given to neophyte sailors. My advise to you is to get a copy of Daniel Spurr's "Boatbook", which has everything you need to know about the mechanical aspects of the boat and "Common Sense Cruising" by Don Casey for seamanship, safety and general cruising.

Good luck to you & happy sailing.

Bob Bernier
s/v "Belle Therese"
Fairhaven, MA



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