CD Intrepid 9m -- need info

[Dan Lamont]

Dear Cape Dory experts:

I'm in the market for a 30 footer and responded to an ad for an "Intrepid" model (vintage 1979). The boat seems very solid but is not (as you all know) a traditional full keel Cape Dory. Frankly, where I sail most (Puget Sound),a full keel is not necessarily an asset anyway. Question is why can't I find any reference to this fin keel Interpid model on the CD sites? Is it because the boat was a turkey or just because it was outside the acceptable bounderies with regard to style and concept? Anybody know anything about this model? I'd be grateful for any information.

Thanks



dan@danlamont.com

[Paul]

Dan,
If you search in the archives of this web site, yoo will find over 200 previous posts related to the Intrepids. I own hull #8 Intrepid 28. To my knowledge, not many of the intrepid line were built. In the older post, I gave my opinion on the Intrepid 28. The 9m carries the same sail plan as my 28, only larger boat overall. I have an old owners manual that has the basic dimesions for both the 28 and 9m. It apears that CD made only one booklet for both boats.
For the money, I think they are great boats.
E-mail if you need more info.
Paul
"Attitude"
Intrepid 28



Einselen@aol.com

[Roger]

Ditto on prior CD Intrepid discussions -- I am also disappointed to see the lack of technical specs/info at this site. My '79 owners manual sounds similar and covers the whole line.

I have a 1979 9m hull #34. Generally, boats were built to CD standards. A few get posted for sale from time to time on the internet -- mostly in the $15-35K range. See the www.BUCnet.com(?) "blue book" for estimating value, depending on your interpretation of condition.

The design is fairly conservative for a C/R -- with a skeg rudder, a moderate beam (9.5 ft), draft (4'10") and displacement (7,500#). Mast head rigged with a set of inboard and outboard car tracks. She's slower than a modern 30ft but is better fit out below. I like the interrior more than the CD 28 and 30's I've seen.

Good luck -- when I have some time, I'll try to scan the owners manual and get some photos sent to the web master.

Dear Cape Dory experts:

I'm in the market for a 30 footer and responded to an ad for an "Intrepid" model (vintage 1979). The boat seems very solid but is not (as you all know) a traditional full keel Cape Dory. Frankly, where I sail most (Puget Sound),a full keel is not necessarily an asset anyway. Question is why can't I find any reference to this fin keel Interpid model on the CD sites? Is it because the boat was a turkey or just because it was outside the acceptable bounderies with regard to style and concept? Anybody know anything about this model? I'd be grateful for any information.

Thanks

[John Dupras]

Ditto on prior CD Intrepid discussions -- I am also disappointed to see the lack of technical specs/info at this site. My '79 owners manual sounds similar and covers the whole line.

I have a 1979 9m hull #34. Generally, boats were built to CD standards. A few get posted for sale from time to time on the internet -- mostly in the $15-35K range. See the www.BUCnet.com(?) "blue book" for estimating value, depending on your interpretation of condition.

The design is fairly conservative for a C/R -- with a skeg rudder, a moderate beam (9.5 ft), draft (4'10") and displacement (7,500#). Mast head rigged with a set of inboard and outboard car tracks. She's slower than a modern 30ft but is better fit out below. I like the interrior more than the CD 28 and 30's I've seen.

Good luck -- when I have some time, I'll try to scan the owners manual and get some photos sent to the web master.

Dear Cape Dory experts:

I'm in the market for a 30 footer and responded to an ad for an "Intrepid" model (vintage 1979). The boat seems very solid but is not (as you all know) a traditional full keel Cape Dory. Frankly, where I sail most (Puget Sound),a full keel is not necessarily an asset anyway. Question is why can't I find any reference to this fin keel Interpid model on the CD sites? Is it because the boat was a turkey or just because it was outside the acceptable bounderies with regard to style and concept? Anybody know anything about this model? I'd be grateful for any information.

Thanks

Roger - Now here is an interesting dilema. I also have a Cape Dory Intrepid 9m Hull number 34! How can that be? I was a little suprised by your post so I called my broker (it's for sale, in fact it's probably the one Dan is looking at so any info I can give is probably biased!) He told me the number on the boat is CPDR0034M79J. I wonder what yours is, as I assumed there is only 1 of each number. Just curious.

John
S/V Mariah



john_dupras@hotmail.com

[Lyle Lunson]

Dan I own an Intrepid 28 hull #9. Was great to see that the last post was #8. I just bought her this January and I absolutely love the boat. John who posted a message on this same thread sent me the owners manual. I think it is now my turn to help someone else out. Email me your address and I will send you a copy. You will find that this message board really has a great amount of information and some really great PEOPLE !

Lyle Lunson
Intrepid 28

Dan,
If you search in the archives of this web site, yoo will find over 200 previous posts related to the Intrepids. I own hull #8 Intrepid 28. To my knowledge, not many of the intrepid line were built. In the older post, I gave my opinion on the Intrepid 28. The 9m carries the same sail plan as my 28, only larger boat overall. I have an old owners manual that has the basic dimesions for both the 28 and 9m. It apears that CD made only one booklet for both boats.
For the money, I think they are great boats.
E-mail if you need more info.
Paul
"Attitude"
Intrepid 28

lyle@lunson.com

[Catherine Monaghan]

The only reason we don't have any information posted anywhere on this website regarding the Intrepid models is because no one has provided it. That goes for any of the models that we don't have info for.

If anyone has any documentation, of any kind, on any of the Cape Dory models that are not listed. Please help us and your fellow Cape Dorians by sending us a copy of whatever you've got.

Please contact me at: <a href="mailto:catherine_monaghan@merck.com">catherine_monaghan@merck.com</a>

Thanks,
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CCDOA Assistant Webmaster
CD32 Realization, #3

Dear Cape Dory experts:

I'm in the market for a 30 footer and responded to an ad for an "Intrepid" model (vintage 1979). The boat seems very solid but is not (as you all know) a traditional full keel Cape Dory. Frankly, where I sail most (Puget Sound),a full keel is not necessarily an asset anyway. Question is why can't I find any reference to this fin keel Interpid model on the CD sites? Is it because the boat was a turkey or just because it was outside the acceptable bounderies with regard to style and concept? Anybody know anything about this model? I'd be grateful for any information.

Thanks

catherine_monaghan@merck.com

[Ed Tully]

About a year ago I bought an Inrepid 28. She is hull #4 built in 1978 in East Taunton, Mass, and is my first keel boat. I sail her out of Deltaville, VA. Since I bought the boat I have been searching for more information about her. I have found this message board to be the most informative source yet, but a few basic bits still elude me. For instance, who designed her? and how many were built? At times I feel that the lack of such basic facts indicate that the intrepid line was one that everyone would rather forget, ie. it was a lemon. Though I have found some weak points here and there in her design, overall, she is a tough, seaworthy craft.

The I28 has the following dimensions:

LOA 28'
LWL 24'6"
Beam 9'6"
Draft 4'10"
Mast 40'6"
Sail area (with working jib) 377 ft2
Ballast 3100lb
Displacement 7500lb

Weak points include, but may not be limited to: Propeller shaft strut is a flimsy affair and needed to be replaced ($2500). Water tank split. Head rigged for overboard discharge only. Poor lighting fixtures. Fair wiring with no common terminal for negative wires! No masthead light. Dodger frame interfers with boom on close hauled course. Hull to deck joint is screwed not bolted (the exception is where the jibe fairlead track attaches to the outer toe rail--here there are through bolts at 6 inch centers). Head sink drains into the bilge. Interior hull covering has been a nuisance since it has a foam base and hold a lot of moisture and mold spores. Interior wood work fit and finish is OK, but not great. Don't be fooled into thinking you have teak interior, it is really a plastic laminate, albeit a good imitation that fooled my surveyor. (Or was it my surveyor's a fool?)Plastic windows that have crazed and that leak. A few stress cracks in gel coat of topsides. Mystery leaks. (May be some connection there).

Some good impressions: Strong heavy duty rigging, with fore and aft shrouds. Wide cabin sole. Adequate one-speed winches for halyards and jib sheets. All deck hardware (cleats and stanchions) has steel backing plates. All through-hulls are bronze ball valves, with double clamps. Deep cockpit with good back support. Dual, non-valved cockpit drains. Good access to stuffing box, fuel tank and lines, and transmission through lazarette. Galley has a good and very large ice box, but it drains to the bilge. The sink is adequate and drains overboard. The stove is alcohol, and stinks (scares me to death each time I fire it up! ). Galley storage is not great. Headroom in cabin is 6'1". Cabin is pretty wide and roomy. There are 8 interior lights and one oil lamp. Good storage space in cabin. Small nav station with counter top big enough for a chartbook. Main cabin seatees measure 6'3" each. Quarterberth is about the same. One great engine--Yanmar YSB-8. No evidence of osmotic blistering on hull,per surveyor.

So these are my somewhat random impressions as my mind wanders over the boat. I love to sail the thing. She plows through the chop and rides gracefully through powerboat wake. I have a 150 genoa that points well but is a handfull above 15 knots. The mainsail provides the smaller share of the boat's drive. She loves to head up into the wind, and will eat your lunch if you let her on a breezy beam reach (well maybe not your lunch...). The best speed I've made is 6.2 knots recorded on GPS. The engine will cruise her at 5.2 knots and drink about 0.5 g/hr or less.

My most recent problem had to do with black exhaust water. Scared me to death when I first noticed it last september, because I thought it was oil. But it was soot. The Wise Sources on the 'net and some of my "logic" had me looking at the fuel, fuel injector, intake flow, exhaust flow, and even motor oil grade as probable culprits. After many hours of tinkering, checking and changing, everything seemed to look fine, except I could not rule out a leaky injector. I ordered a new one from Mack Boring without any trouble. When I went to pick it up from their distributor, the boatyard owner asked me what the trouble was, and I gave him a rundown. He asked if I checked the prop for barnacles. I laughed. The boat's only been in the water for a year. Besides.... Anyhow, I put the injector in (took about 3 minutes), then we went sailing. On the way out I couldn't help but notice the "black water" spewing out and leaving a godawful trail! With a boat spead of about 2.1 knots and a top engine spead of 1200 or so rpms, I thought I'd check out that prop! That evening at the dock I dove down to the prop and, lo and behold, it was clubbed with barnacles! Problem solved.

Happy sailing,

Ed




tully@vcu.org

[Joe Sankey]

Ed: There is a 35' Intrepid for sale on Yachtworld.com. The ad says it was designed by McCurdy and Rhodes. I am currently on my fourth CD, and since I bought the first one 20 years ago I have been aware of the Intrepids, and vaguely understood they were considered to be more of a performance oriented boat. I later read in a couple places that CD stayed with what most of us think of as CDs as a "niche" product. Actually, they seemed to do quite well with that.
However, even though I hope I'm on my last boat (a keeper), I'd also like to see the Intrepid line included in the specs section. If I come upon any information I'll pass it along.
Joe Sankey
S/V Slow Dance
CD 30 # 311

About a year ago I bought an Inrepid 28. She is hull #4 built in 1978 in East Taunton, Mass, and is my first keel boat. I sail her out of Deltaville, VA. Since I bought the boat I have been searching for more information about her. I have found this message board to be the most informative source yet, but a few basic bits still elude me. For instance, who designed her? and how many were built? At times I feel that the lack of such basic facts indicate that the intrepid line was one that everyone would rather forget, ie. it was a lemon. Though I have found some weak points here and there in her design, overall, she is a tough, seaworthy craft.

The I28 has the following dimensions:

LOA 28'
LWL 24'6"
Beam 9'6"
Draft 4'10"
Mast 40'6"
Sail area (with working jib) 377 ft2
Ballast 3100lb
Displacement 7500lb

Weak points include, but may not be limited to: Propeller shaft strut is a flimsy affair and needed to be replaced ($2500). Water tank split. Head rigged for overboard discharge only. Poor lighting fixtures. Fair wiring with no common terminal for negative wires! No masthead light. Dodger frame interfers with boom on close hauled course. Hull to deck joint is screwed not bolted (the exception is where the jibe fairlead track attaches to the outer toe rail--here there are through bolts at 6 inch centers). Head sink drains into the bilge. Interior hull covering has been a nuisance since it has a foam base and hold a lot of moisture and mold spores. Interior wood work fit and finish is OK, but not great. Don't be fooled into thinking you have teak interior, it is really a plastic laminate, albeit a good imitation that fooled my surveyor. (Or was it my surveyor's a fool?)Plastic windows that have crazed and that leak. A few stress cracks in gel coat of topsides. Mystery leaks. (May be some connection there).

Some good impressions: Strong heavy duty rigging, with fore and aft shrouds. Wide cabin sole. Adequate one-speed winches for halyards and jib sheets. All deck hardware (cleats and stanchions) has steel backing plates. All through-hulls are bronze ball valves, with double clamps. Deep cockpit with good back support. Dual, non-valved cockpit drains. Good access to stuffing box, fuel tank and lines, and transmission through lazarette. Galley has a good and very large ice box, but it drains to the bilge. The sink is adequate and drains overboard. The stove is alcohol, and stinks (scares me to death each time I fire it up! ). Galley storage is not great. Headroom in cabin is 6'1". Cabin is pretty wide and roomy. There are 8 interior lights and one oil lamp. Good storage space in cabin. Small nav station with counter top big enough for a chartbook. Main cabin seatees measure 6'3" each. Quarterberth is about the same. One great engine--Yanmar YSB-8. No evidence of osmotic blistering on hull,per surveyor.

So these are my somewhat random impressions as my mind wanders over the boat. I love to sail the thing. She plows through the chop and rides gracefully through powerboat wake. I have a 150 genoa that points well but is a handfull above 15 knots. The mainsail provides the smaller share of the boat's drive. She loves to head up into the wind, and will eat your lunch if you let her on a breezy beam reach (well maybe not your lunch...). The best speed I've made is 6.2 knots recorded on GPS. The engine will cruise her at 5.2 knots and drink about 0.5 g/hr or less.

My most recent problem had to do with black exhaust water. Scared me to death when I first noticed it last september, because I thought it was oil. But it was soot. The Wise Sources on the 'net and some of my "logic" had me looking at the fuel, fuel injector, intake flow, exhaust flow, and even motor oil grade as probable culprits. After many hours of tinkering, checking and changing, everything seemed to look fine, except I could not rule out a leaky injector. I ordered a new one from Mack Boring without any trouble. When I went to pick it up from their distributor, the boatyard owner asked me what the trouble was, and I gave him a rundown. He asked if I checked the prop for barnacles. I laughed. The boat's only been in the water for a year. Besides.... Anyhow, I put the injector in (took about 3 minutes), then we went sailing. On the way out I couldn't help but notice the "black water" spewing out and leaving a godawful trail! With a boat spead of about 2.1 knots and a top engine spead of 1200 or so rpms, I thought I'd check out that prop! That evening at the dock I dove down to the prop and, lo and behold, it was clubbed with barnacles! Problem solved.

Happy sailing,

Ed

sankey@gulftel.com