Emergency tiller CD 36

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Emergency tiller CD 36

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I have an emergency tiller for a CD 36 that can be had for the price of shipping.

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Re: Emergency tiller CD 36

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That's like giving away your spare tire.
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Steve Laume wrote:That's like giving away your spare tire.
Unless... he converted to a tiller! :D
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That's exactly what I've done and I love it

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I spoke with someone at Edson when I was converting our 30 to tiller that said I would have to have a tiller 8 feet long to steer it. He thought I was crazy but we love our tiller as well. Dee

AND its not 8 feet long.
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ghockaday wrote:I spoke with someone at Edson when I was converting our 30 to tiller that said I would have to have a tiller 8 feet long to steer it.
Apparently, that person has never sailed on a well designed boat???
I can only imagine how long of a tiller they would have suggested for the Far Reach! :D
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mgphl52 wrote:
ghockaday wrote:I spoke with someone at Edson when I was converting our 30 to tiller that said I would have to have a tiller 8 feet long to steer it.
Apparently, that person has never sailed on a well designed boat???
I can only imagine how long of a tiller they would have suggested for the Far Reach! :D
He also said "but where are you going to put the cockpit table?"
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ghockaday wrote:
mgphl52 wrote:
ghockaday wrote:I spoke with someone at Edson when I was converting our 30 to tiller that said I would have to have a tiller 8 feet long to steer it.
Apparently, that person has never sailed on a well designed boat???
I can only imagine how long of a tiller they would have suggested for the Far Reach! :D
He also said "but where are you going to put the cockpit table?"
Sounds like total motor-boater mindset... :roll:
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Re: Emergency tiller CD 36

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Be interested in a pic. I have CD270 #11 SV JoJo and doesn't have emergency tiller. She has factory wheel steering.
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Here is a picture of the tiller
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dc5jhqwraaz5k ... 7.JPG?dl=0
It is for an 1 1/2" rudder shaft. It also includes a tool to open the hatch and a canvas bag
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Thanks for the pic. I’ll check dims when at the boat this w/e. Have a good holiday Sail safe
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mgphl52 wrote:
ghockaday wrote:I spoke with someone at Edson when I was converting our 30 to tiller that said I would have to have a tiller 8 feet long to steer it.
Apparently, that person has never sailed on a well designed boat???
I can only imagine how long of a tiller they would have suggested for the Far Reach! :D
I love seeing all these boats converted to tiller. We were the first to convert a CD 36 to a tiller. I built the tiller 5' long--to just shy of the bridge deck. After sailing her for a year I cut it back to 4'9". I think ideal might be 4'6". It would be fine at 4'. When I decided to convert the Far Reach to a tiller there were a number of people who thought I was nuts. I heard so many criticisms. "You'll need an 8' long tiller, you won't be able to have guests in the cockpit, you'll be exhausted trying to sail the boat with a tiller, you wife won't be strong enough," blah blah blah...

I kept looking at pictures of 52' Dorade, and 45' pilot cutters, and of course the original Baltimore Clippers steered with tillers. Those boys wouldn't have been able to sail those boats if they listened to all the naysayers.

The critics were wrong of course. It was the one of the best mods we made to the boat. Absolutely love it.
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I owned a 35-foot steel cutter for 17 years that was tiller steered. It displaced more than the CD36--18,000 lbs vs 16,100 for the CD36 (though once the boat was fully loaded for cruising, several travel-lift operators told us it was closer to 22,000 lbs). The tiller tilted up so it would be out of the way at anchor, which freed up a lot of living space in the cockpit while at anchor. We sailed with as many as 6 people in the cockpit--the tiller was high enough to clear most people's knees, but if it didn't, you could just tilt the tiller up a bit when tacking. I'd guess the tiller was about 4 feet long or a bit more; the cockpit was over 6 feet long. A tiller was a perfect solution for that boat; I never once wished we had a wheel.

Smooth sailing,

Jim
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wikakaru wrote:I owned a 35-foot steel cutter for 17 years that was tiller steered. It displaced more than the CD36--18,000 lbs vs 16,100 for the CD36 (though once the boat was fully loaded for cruising, several travel-lift operators told us it was closer to 22,000 lbs). The tiller tilted up so it would be out of the way at anchor, which freed up a lot of living space in the cockpit while at anchor. We sailed with as many as 6 people in the cockpit--the tiller was high enough to clear most people's knees, but if it didn't, you could just tilt the tiller up a bit when tacking. I'd guess the tiller was about 4 feet long or a bit more; the cockpit was over 6 feet long. A tiller was a perfect solution for that boat; I never once wished we had a wheel.

Smooth sailing,

Jim
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Outstanding! Awesome compass with compensators too.
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John Stone wrote:Outstanding! Awesome compass with compensators too.
One thing I am glad not to have to deal with anymore is compensating a magnetic compass on a steel boat. What a headache! One problem with steel boats is that, if they are kept at a dock pointing in the same direction for a period of time, the earth's magnetic field induces a long-term magnetic field in the hull, which which screws with the compass compensation. Then when the boat is out underway or swinging at anchor for long periods of time the hull's magnetic field changes again. The US Navy used to have dedicated degaussing stations around the world for this reason (and for protection from magnetic submerged mines.) Look closely at the rectangular instrument below the 3 circular instruments--that's a dedicated flux gate compass that was installed to get around the magnetic compass problems. (Flux gate compasses are much more easily compensated than magnetic ones.) Just one of the many reasons I now sail a tiny plastic boat instead of a big steel one.

Smooth sailing,

Jim
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