The thrill is gone (not really) - New CD 30 Owner

[John Nestor]

Now I'm more or less scared. Is there a difinitive text, Nigel Calderesque, on managing a cruising sailboat. I'm less interested in help with maintenance than with logistics: Insurance, registration, launching and storage procedures and options, etc.

Any help would be great. Maybe in a few years I'll be on the other side of the Q&A.

Thanks.



jwnestor@yahoo.com

[Bob Luby]

Now that you've bought the boat, you are at the "Oh My God, what have I done" stage.

Don't worry - its simple.

Take your bill of sale to your State motor vehicle dept to register your boat and pay any sales tax. You will receive your number, (Mine was CT 2738 AR) Remove the old numbers and put on the new.

Call your insurance agent, and/or look in Soundings for a knowledgeable agent who will know that your 30 footer will not exceed 7 kts! To save $$, go for a large deductible.

Next- where to keep the thing. 2 Basic options: Marina ( 2500-3000 both winter & summer here in Ct.) or mooring. (Less!). Remember, If you moor it, you still have to have a place to stow your tender, unless you are a yacht club member who can use a launch.

You may be able to save if you store it in your back yard in the winter, that is, if you have a back yard and accomodating neighbors/wife.

Welcome to the board!



Rluby@aol.com

[len]

john

an alternative to state registration is coast guard documentation - one advantage is no numbers on the bow, just the boat's name -

len



md.frel@nwh.org

[Ken Cave]

Look at Boat US for insurance. You will need a survey report to get insurance from them, but I have found them the best over the the years on different boats that I have owned.

Also, I agree with documation on your Cape Dory! It takes awhile to get it done, but well worth the time and effort!



bcave@whidbey.net

[Bill]

Does USCG documentation negaite (sp) the requirement for state registratioin, or is that a state by state issue?

FW

Bill

john

an alternative to state registration is coast guard documentation - one advantage is no numbers on the bow, just the boat's name -

len

cd25d@rhapsodysails.com

[Fred Adame]

Don't know what state you're in but in Florida CG documentation does not take the place of state registration - you just are not required to have the state numbers on the bow. (I think it's similar in all states. They want their money.)

You have to pay the state sales tax (that's really what they're after) or show proof of having paid it, and they issue you the same registration paperwork and annual registration decal. The FL registration decal goes on the windshield (wherever that is, on a CD sailboat) or on a port side "window". FL registration is about $50 per year for a 30 footer. It's all done where you get your motor vehicle license plates.

Oh, by the way, you must place the CG documentation number
below decks in a way that it can not be changed or removed without evidence of tampering.

Congratulations on the new CD. You'll love her.

Fred
CD-31 Astrea



fnav@earthlink.net

[huw]

Don't know what state you're in but in Florida CG documentation does not take the place of state registration - you just are not required to have the state numbers on the bow. (I think it's similar in all states. They want their money.)

You have to pay the state sales tax (that's really what they're after) or show proof of having paid it, and they issue you the same registration paperwork and annual registration decal. The FL registration decal goes on the windshield (wherever that is, on a CD sailboat) or on a port side "window". FL registration is about $50 per year for a 30 footer. It's all done where you get your motor vehicle license plates.

Oh, by the way, you must place the CG documentation number
below decks in a way that it can not be changed or removed without evidence of tampering.

Congratulations on the new CD. You'll love her.

Fred
CD-31 Astrea

ohio is the same way---
irregardless of whether you choose uscg doc., they want their money. i got my car stcker at the same time, it totalled $110, but the boat sticker lasts 3 yrs here.

one other thing you want to remember to do with your new boat is go sailing!

congrats...

[Tom]

Don't know what state you're in but in Florida CG documentation does not take the place of state registration - you just are not required to have the state numbers on the bow. (I think it's similar in all states. They want their money.)

You have to pay the state sales tax (that's really what they're after) or show proof of having paid it, and they issue you the same registration paperwork and annual registration decal. The FL registration decal goes on the windshield (wherever that is, on a CD sailboat) or on a port side "window". FL registration is about $50 per year for a 30 footer. It's all done where you get your motor vehicle license plates.

Oh, by the way, you must place the CG documentation number
below decks in a way that it can not be changed or removed without evidence of tampering.

Congratulations on the new CD. You'll love her.

Fred
CD-31 Astrea

In California you don't pay a state registration fee or get a sticker if you are documented. You do, however, pay the state property tax bill of one percent of the market value which amounts to about $ 360. per year on my CD 31.



TomCambria@mindspring.com

[Catherine Monaghan]

In NJ you still have to register the boat with the state but you don't have to put the registration number on the bow. You do, however, have to place the yearly stickers on each side of the bow.


Cathy
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay

Does USCG documentation negaite (sp) the requirement for state registratioin, or is that a state by state issue?

FW

Bill

john

an alternative to state registration is coast guard documentation - one advantage is no numbers on the bow, just the boat's name -

len

catherine_monaghan@merck.com

[Mark Yashinsky]

Look at http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/doc0101.htm or http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/document.htm or poke around at www.uscg.mil.

[len]

in massachusetts you pay an annual excise tax based on the value of the boat but you don't have to register it

len



md.frel@nwh.org

[Jerry J Commisso]

According to the N.J.State Police Brochure.On a Documented vessel the Registration stickers are supposed to be mounted adjacent to the Helm. That would put the stickers around the cockpit area.
Jerry J Commisso
CD30c CHELSEA ROSE

In NJ you still have to register the boat with the state but you don't have to put the registration number on the bow. You do, however, have to place the yearly stickers on each side of the bow.


Cathy
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay

Does USCG documentation negaite (sp) the requirement for state registratioin, or is that a state by state issue?

FW

Bill

john

an alternative to state registration is coast guard documentation - one advantage is no numbers on the bow, just the boat's name -

len

liasboat@aol.com

[Chris Cram]

I federally documented my boat, for the first time, last year. Theoretically the government will send me some sort of renewal. Is this true?? The US Coast Guard web site has a page explaining the process but it leaves questions.

Chris Cram
CD 30 C Hesperus



cccobx@prodigy.net

[Jerry J Commisso]

The Coast Guard will send you a renewal in the mail.When you receive the sticker it must be attached to the Documentation Certificate.

Jerry J Commisso
CD30c CHELSEA ROSE

I federally documented my boat, for the first time, last year. Theoretically the government will send me some sort of renewal. Is this true?? The US Coast Guard web site has a page explaining the process but it leaves questions.

Chris Cram
CD 30 C Hesperus

liasboat@aol.com

[Mario]

Now I'm more or less scared. Is there a difinitive text, Nigel Calderesque, on managing a cruising sailboat. I'm less interested in help with maintenance than with logistics: Insurance, registration, launching and storage procedures and options, etc.

Any help would be great. Maybe in a few years I'll be on the other side of the Q&A.

Thanks.

We went through this feeling last year when we bought our CD 30. It took longer and was more complicated than buying a home. And the new responsibility was overwhelming at first. I can distinctly remember arriving at the marina each weekend, relieved to see that the boat was still afloat.

We documented through the CG without much difficulty. However, my wife is a paralegal and she reads legal documents much better than I. After we had waded through the process I could understand why some choose to pay others to do it for them, but we just followed the instructions and managed to muddle through.

We insured through Boat US, who reviewed the survey and asked us to make some specific repairs. It cost some money, but they were safety-related and much needed.

We were also lucky that the boat had been maintained by the same mechanic for 10 years. We still use him, and he has been enormously helpful and reassuring. He is happy to teach us about basic maintenance, and we have been happy to supply baked goods in response. (It's Gene Thompson at Ocran Boat Shop on the Chesapeake Bay. He's a peach.)

We still have much to learn, and this is the place to learn it.

Mario & Mur Dennis
s/v Rhapsody



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