replacing Cetol with oiled teak--how many damn coats will it

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peter

replacing Cetol with oiled teak--how many damn coats will it

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I know there are Cetol loyalists out there but I'm a big fan of oiled woods. However, I've noticed the 26-year old teak on my typhoon seems to need a new oiling every month or so; how many coats of oil can I expect to apply before having a reasonable finish?



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Rich

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peter wrote: I know there are Cetol loyalists out there but I'm a big fan of oiled woods. However, I've noticed the 26-year old teak on my typhoon seems to need a new oiling every month or so; how many coats of oil can I expect to apply before having a reasonable finish?
You'll never get there with oil, it won't stand up to the elements. The best you can expect is a short term finish that will start deteriorating almost immediately.



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Larry DeMers

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I agree with Rich. Oils catalize quickly in the presence of UV, so you are setting your self up to be in a continual oiling mode, as people have done for hundreds of years before varnish came along.
In my opinion, oiled teak belongs below, out of the elements, not up topside.
I am a cetol fan, and our CD30 shows that you CAN get a decent finish with Cetol Gloss. However, it is possible to screw up even something as simple as applying Cetol, so the results you are basing your bias on may not even be valid.

But you may have to apply oil this time, to get it out of your system. If so, why not pickout a small unobtrusive area to try it on, as my bet is that you will be changing to something else next year.

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30

peter wrote: I know there are Cetol loyalists out there but I'm a big fan of oiled woods. However, I've noticed the 26-year old teak on my typhoon seems to need a new oiling every month or so; how many coats of oil can I expect to apply before having a reasonable finish?


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Warren Kaplan

Re: replacing Cetol with oiled teak--how many damn coats wil

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peter wrote: I know there are Cetol loyalists out there but I'm a big fan of oiled woods. However, I've noticed the 26-year old teak on my typhoon seems to need a new oiling every month or so; how many coats of oil can I expect to apply before having a reasonable finish?
Peter,
Oil looks nice but it sure doesn't last. That's why the other types of teak treatments have emerged. Lets put it this way. This season you can spend you time on your boat sailing, or, you can spend your time on your boat oiling. Alas, you can't do both!
Warren
S/V Sine Qua Non
CD27 #166



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Don S.

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Peter,
When we first got COQUINA two years ago, I diligently cleaned the teak and oiled it with the best oil I could buy -- Amazon's #55, $27 bucks a quart! It looked fantastic. Folks in the boatyard would stand around admiring it. But, of course, they knew it wouldn't last. That was in May. By July the finish was black. The oil attracts dirt and grows mold and WILL TURN BLACK unless you clean the teak and recoat it every month or two. I'm now happily using Teak Guard. Oil it, take a picture, clean it off, put something else on it and go sailing.
Don Sargeant
~~COQUINA~~
CD25D # 189
Oil-free in Greenwich Cove



Larry DeMers wrote: I agree with Rich. Oils catalize quickly in the presence of UV, so you are setting your self up to be in a continual oiling mode, as people have done for hundreds of years before varnish came along.
In my opinion, oiled teak belongs below, out of the elements, not up topside.
I am a cetol fan, and our CD30 shows that you CAN get a decent finish with Cetol Gloss. However, it is possible to screw up even something as simple as applying Cetol, so the results you are basing your bias on may not even be valid.

But you may have to apply oil this time, to get it out of your system. If so, why not pickout a small unobtrusive area to try it on, as my bet is that you will be changing to something else next year.

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30

peter wrote: I know there are Cetol loyalists out there but I'm a big fan of oiled woods. However, I've noticed the 26-year old teak on my typhoon seems to need a new oiling every month or so; how many coats of oil can I expect to apply before having a reasonable finish?
Fred

Re: replacing Cetol with oiled teak--how many damn coats wil

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peter wrote: I know there are Cetol loyalists out there but I'm a big fan of oiled woods. However, I've noticed the 26-year old teak on my typhoon seems to need a new oiling every month or so; how many coats of oil can I expect to apply before having a reasonable finish?
You can use an oil finish, but it is a lot of work. If you can spare the time to reoil every three weeks or so, go for it. A short cut is to lightly scrub the teak with a mixture of liquid laundry soap, 25 percent bleach and water, before your every three week coat. This will keep the mold and dirt at bay, so you don't oil on top of this crud.

The only hard part is keeping the oil off of the deck, it will either leave varnish like spots, or stains that will mildew. (depending on the oil you choose)



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