Well, I pulled and polished my prop this weekend, reached up and got the Rutland stove polish off the shelf, shook it up and applied it to the prop. It may have been too old but all I got was a very thin, watery smear. Certainly nothing a barnacle would blink twice at. My local hardware didn't have stove black, they had some polish for outdoor grills. So, Dave, what brand of stove black do you use, is it a paste, a liquid, what's the result, a black prop?
Thanks,
Don Sargeant
~~COQUINA~~
Stove black
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Robin Meigel
Re: Stove black
I am interested in the answer to this question as well. Also, some persons in my sailing club advocate coating the propeller with bees' wax. One advantage of bees' wax is that you can replenish it with underwater applications. Any experience with this among dory owners?
Robin Meigel
"Pacem" 1979 CD 27
rlmeigel@aol.com
Robin Meigel
"Pacem" 1979 CD 27
rlmeigel@aol.com
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D. Stump, Hanalei
Re: I'll get back to you all tomorrow....
Don,
A lot of Captains are asking. I just blackened the prop yesterday, Hanalei is going in shortly. The polish is home, so I will post the name tomorrow.
The Rutland stuff sounds like the right kind of polish. Yes, it does only leave a smear, hit it a couple of times, let it dry in between coats untill you get a nicely smeared up bronze prop(it don't have to be pretty, it only has to work!). I don't know why, but it works.
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei
A lot of Captains are asking. I just blackened the prop yesterday, Hanalei is going in shortly. The polish is home, so I will post the name tomorrow.
The Rutland stuff sounds like the right kind of polish. Yes, it does only leave a smear, hit it a couple of times, let it dry in between coats untill you get a nicely smeared up bronze prop(it don't have to be pretty, it only has to work!). I don't know why, but it works.
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei
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D. Stump, Hanalei
Re: "Rutland"Stove black..that's it...!!!
Don,
I've got the bottle in front of me. It's Rutland Liquid Stove and Grill Polish. 8 fl.oz. cost $3.59 a few years ago. It says it is for use on unpainted Cast Iron only. It is Rutland item #72. I purchased it in Colchester, Ct a few years ago at a store called Colchester Coal and Stove(since out of business at least a few years).
It really did seem to work, just lather it on until you feel comfortable with what you see. I guess for $3.59 you couldn't use too much!
Hope this helps everyone...Hanalei has a black prop and is ready for launch....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei
I've got the bottle in front of me. It's Rutland Liquid Stove and Grill Polish. 8 fl.oz. cost $3.59 a few years ago. It says it is for use on unpainted Cast Iron only. It is Rutland item #72. I purchased it in Colchester, Ct a few years ago at a store called Colchester Coal and Stove(since out of business at least a few years).
It really did seem to work, just lather it on until you feel comfortable with what you see. I guess for $3.59 you couldn't use too much!
Hope this helps everyone...Hanalei has a black prop and is ready for launch....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei
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Lou Ostendorff
Re: Stove black
Hello to All;
Well, now I've read about anhydrous lanolin, stove black, and now beeswax for prop treatment!!! Since I've never tried any of this stuff, I have to rely on your good judgement. However, KARMA's previous two owners used Tri-Lux, I believe, with excellent results.
It's a two or three step prop treatment, and the prop is always clean. It's usually pretty warm in NC, and salinity in the sound is probably only half of what you have in New England, so conditions are obviously different. It also costs a little more; the boatyard did the prep, but it's always clean!
Lou Ostendorff
KARMA, CD25D
'82, #63
louosten@ipass.net
Well, now I've read about anhydrous lanolin, stove black, and now beeswax for prop treatment!!! Since I've never tried any of this stuff, I have to rely on your good judgement. However, KARMA's previous two owners used Tri-Lux, I believe, with excellent results.
It's a two or three step prop treatment, and the prop is always clean. It's usually pretty warm in NC, and salinity in the sound is probably only half of what you have in New England, so conditions are obviously different. It also costs a little more; the boatyard did the prep, but it's always clean!
Lou Ostendorff
KARMA, CD25D
'82, #63
louosten@ipass.net
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Chris Cram
I use parrafin wax
Yes I use parrafin wax. The same stuff they use in canning veggies. The stove blacking sounds good, the wax is just the witches brew someone turned me onto a few years ago, and-- hey it works. I think the culprit was a Chesapeake waterman who overheard me complaining about this problem in a bar uhmm I mean a social club.
If you choose this-- REMINDER-- Paffafin is extremely flamable so be careful.
Chris
cccobx@prodigy.net
If you choose this-- REMINDER-- Paffafin is extremely flamable so be careful.
Chris
cccobx@prodigy.net
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Don S.
Re: "Rutland"Stove black..that's it...!!!
Thanx Dave,
That's the stuff I have (I'll retrieve it from the trash barrel). I wonder if my bottle got frozen, or otherwise separated. The first coat was awfully thin. I'll try building it up and will use a brush.
To add to all the other tricks mentioned in this string, I used to use STP. It sticks to metal like crazy. I don't know if it lasted all summer as I was using it on an unbonded prop --just another thought, tho'.
Don Sargeant
~~COQUINA~~
That's the stuff I have (I'll retrieve it from the trash barrel). I wonder if my bottle got frozen, or otherwise separated. The first coat was awfully thin. I'll try building it up and will use a brush.
To add to all the other tricks mentioned in this string, I used to use STP. It sticks to metal like crazy. I don't know if it lasted all summer as I was using it on an unbonded prop --just another thought, tho'.
Don Sargeant
~~COQUINA~~
D. Stump, Hanalei wrote: Don,
I've got the bottle in front of me. It's Rutland Liquid Stove and Grill Polish. 8 fl.oz. cost $3.59 a few years ago. It says it is for use on unpainted Cast Iron only. It is Rutland item #72. I purchased it in Colchester, Ct a few years ago at a store called Colchester Coal and Stove(since out of business at least a few years).
It really did seem to work, just lather it on until you feel comfortable with what you see. I guess for $3.59 you couldn't use too much!
Hope this helps everyone...Hanalei has a black prop and is ready for launch....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei
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Ken Coit
Re: "Rutland"Stove black..that's it...!!!
Rutland's price has gone up to $3.69 for a half-pint, $5.39 for a full pint. The polish is an emulsion of "natural" waxes and black pigments. They also sell a black pigmented paste wax. Both seem to be enhanced by buffing. See the link below for more info.
So, is it the wax or the pigment that does the trick? Is the pigment carbon black and the wax simply the binder? Graphite and carbon are way down on the nobility scale, below zinc; what what happens when you add carbon or graphite to the bronze prop and shaft with a zinc anode? Do they protect the zinc? I suppose the carbon particles are mostly insulated from the prop by the wax, but something must be going on to keep those barnacles at bay. Maybe they just can't get a grip on the slippery surface?
Ken
parfait@nc.rr.com
So, is it the wax or the pigment that does the trick? Is the pigment carbon black and the wax simply the binder? Graphite and carbon are way down on the nobility scale, below zinc; what what happens when you add carbon or graphite to the bronze prop and shaft with a zinc anode? Do they protect the zinc? I suppose the carbon particles are mostly insulated from the prop by the wax, but something must be going on to keep those barnacles at bay. Maybe they just can't get a grip on the slippery surface?
Ken
Don S. wrote: Thanx Dave,
That's the stuff I have (I'll retrieve it from the trash barrel). I wonder if my bottle got frozen, or otherwise separated. The first coat was awfully thin. I'll try building it up and will use a brush.
To add to all the other tricks mentioned in this string, I used to use STP. It sticks to metal like crazy. I don't know if it lasted all summer as I was using it on an unbonded prop --just another thought, tho'.
Don Sargeant
~~COQUINA~~
D. Stump, Hanalei wrote: Don,
I've got the bottle in front of me. It's Rutland Liquid Stove and Grill Polish. 8 fl.oz. cost $3.59 a few years ago. It says it is for use on unpainted Cast Iron only. It is Rutland item #72. I purchased it in Colchester, Ct a few years ago at a store called Colchester Coal and Stove(since out of business at least a few years).
It really did seem to work, just lather it on until you feel comfortable with what you see. I guess for $3.59 you couldn't use too much!
Hope this helps everyone...Hanalei has a black prop and is ready for launch....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei
parfait@nc.rr.com
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D. Stump, Hanalei
Re: I don't know, it just works....
Ken,
I don't know if it is the wax or the carbon black. I gotta hunch that the Critters just don't like it(tastes AWFUL, doesn't even mix well with wiskey!), for whatever reason. Actually, I didn't know the stuff was water based, and also didn't know it contained waxes. The web site you included in your reply was very interesting. It is the #72 stuff that I have used in the past.
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei
I don't know if it is the wax or the carbon black. I gotta hunch that the Critters just don't like it(tastes AWFUL, doesn't even mix well with wiskey!), for whatever reason. Actually, I didn't know the stuff was water based, and also didn't know it contained waxes. The web site you included in your reply was very interesting. It is the #72 stuff that I have used in the past.
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei
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Russ Prewitt
Re: "Rutland"Stove and grill polish
If anyone is interested in purchasing Rutland Stove and Grill Polish, I found a web site: "rutland.com" that describes the products and has links to retailers.
prewitrj@evms.edu
prewitrj@evms.edu
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Olli Wendelin
Re: Stove black
How long will these applications last?
Previously I have just used bottom paint on the prop (not the zinc). I can get two years of service on the rest of the bottom. The prop coating lasts 4 or 5 months. For the rest of the time I scrape the prop about once a month. Any coating that could be applied under water and last would be useful.
Olli Wendelin
BLUE MOON
Charleston, SC
wendelin@spawar.navy.mil
Previously I have just used bottom paint on the prop (not the zinc). I can get two years of service on the rest of the bottom. The prop coating lasts 4 or 5 months. For the rest of the time I scrape the prop about once a month. Any coating that could be applied under water and last would be useful.
Olli Wendelin
BLUE MOON
Charleston, SC
wendelin@spawar.navy.mil