Armada vs. Armada MC2000

[Bette]

Does anyone know what the difference is between these two products? I'm seriously considering using Armada but am wondering which one I should use?

Thanks for the input,
Bette CD28 #280 Starfish



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[D. Stump, Hanalei]

Bette,

If you log onto armadacoatings.com, and click on products, a full description of both types of coatings is provided. As I read it, the MC2000 is a polyurethane, hard finish, the other is an oil alkyd finish. It(MC2000) is water clear, and doesn't sound like what I want on Hanalei. Also, it is expensive! This Spring, Hanalei is getting the original Armada. I have seen it on a number of New England CD's and it looks just perfect. Let me know if you have trouble getting the information...I remain....

Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30

[Clay Stalker]

Does anyone know what the difference is between these two products? I'm seriously considering using Armada but am wondering which one I should use?

Thanks for the input,
Bette CD28 #280 Starfish

Bette,
I have no experience with the MC2000 but was interested in D. Stumps comments about the difference. I have been wondering what the difference is myself, and was glad he relayed this. The previous owner of my CD27 used the regular satin finish Armada and I am very pleased with the apppearance. Seems to be fairly durable, and I like the color better than the Cetol jobs I have seen. The satin doesn't reach out and grab you quite like gloss varnish does, but it looks very nice....of course, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.....Good luck, I would be interested in what you decide and how it comes out.

Clay Stalker
s/v SALSA CD27 #247



cstalker@cheshire.net

[Bette]

Bette,

If you log onto armadacoatings.com, and click on products, a full description of both types of coatings is provided. As I read it, the MC2000 is a polyurethane, hard finish, the other is an oil alkyd finish. It(MC2000) is water clear, and doesn't sound like what I want on Hanalei. Also, it is expensive! This Spring, Hanalei is getting the original Armada. I have seen it on a number of New England CD's and it looks just perfect. Let me know if you have trouble getting the information...I remain....

Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30

Thanks to you both for the input. I plan on going with the Armada (non-MC2000) and will let you know my thoughts on it after the job is done (is it ever???) It sounds like the look we've been after.



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[Robert]

Bette,
I tested the MC2000 on a section of teak that I had scraped and cleaned. It went very dark, very quick. Nothing like the original Armada. On new wood it might offer a different look. The oil-based product has held up well and repairs easily.
Good Luck,
Robert




rjohn12@midsouth.rr.com

[Ron Musk]

Bette,

If you log onto armadacoatings.com, and click on products, a full description of both types of coatings is provided. As I read it, the MC2000 is a polyurethane, hard finish, the other is an oil alkyd finish. It(MC2000) is water clear, and doesn't sound like what I want on Hanalei. Also, it is expensive! This Spring, Hanalei is getting the original Armada. I have seen it on a number of New England CD's and it looks just perfect. Let me know if you have trouble getting the information...I remain....

Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30

I've been refinishing wood parts over the winter with Armada.It has a satisfying look to it much like varnish and seems quite tough.The one characteristic I'm not too fond of is that it takes 1-2 days to dry,in a heated garage.The company recommends moving the air to speed up the drying process but that gets dust flying.The 1st can I bought took 5 days to dry! it was 4 years old,shelf life is 2. Armada sent me a new can.check the number on the bottom to ensure its fresh.

Ron Musk
s/v"R&R"
CD30



ccerre@massed.net

[Bette]

Bette,
I tested the MC2000 on a section of teak that I had scraped and cleaned. It went very dark, very quick. Nothing like the original Armada. On new wood it might offer a different look. The oil-based product has held up well and repairs easily.
Good Luck,
Robert

Thanks Robert, I appreciate the input. I have decided to go with the Armada (regular) and see how it looks and how it lasts.



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[Lyn Heiges]

Bette:

I used Cetol on my then CD27 on the Chesapeake Bay before it was "Marine" Cetol after a wonderful experience on a redwood picnic table at home. It was great! It lasted about 6 years with minor "touch-ups". When I bought my CD28 here in Florida, it had Marine Cetol on it and it didn't look spectacular at all. I was disappointed in the color and the "chipping" displayed. I took all the Cetol off a year ago and put original Armada on --three coats gloss-- and in the Florida sun it sure outlasts the Marine Cetol the purchaser of my old CD27 put on about the same time last year.

I am pleased with the Armada and I have used it inside now as well as outside on some fixtures which we have added made from teak and mahogony.

The guy with the CD27 tried the Armada MC2000, hated it, took it back to the place he bought it and traded it for the original and has now started to apply it. I'm just doing "touch-ups" where lines rub or rubrails rub the pier. I'm looking at stainless steel or bronze rubrail guards from Taco or some source to make this part of life better, but they have their negatives as well as positives!

Best of luck with Armada. I really think it is a great product!

Lyn Heiges
CD28 MOON CHILD
St. Pete Beach, Florida

Does anyone know what the difference is between these two products? I'm seriously considering using Armada but am wondering which one I should use?

Thanks for the input,
Bette CD28 #280 Starfish

LynHeiges@cs.com

[Bette]

Bette:

I used Cetol on my then CD27 on the Chesapeake Bay before it was "Marine" Cetol after a wonderful experience on a redwood picnic table at home. It was great! It lasted about 6 years with minor "touch-ups". When I bought my CD28 here in Florida, it had Marine Cetol on it and it didn't look spectacular at all. I was disappointed in the color and the "chipping" displayed. I took all the Cetol off a year ago and put original Armada on --three coats gloss-- and in the Florida sun it sure outlasts the Marine Cetol the purchaser of my old CD27 put on about the same time last year.

I am pleased with the Armada and I have used it inside now as well as outside on some fixtures which we have added made from teak and mahogony.

The guy with the CD27 tried the Armada MC2000, hated it, took it back to the place he bought it and traded it for the original and has now started to apply it. I'm just doing "touch-ups" where lines rub or rubrails rub the pier. I'm looking at stainless steel or bronze rubrail guards from Taco or some source to make this part of life better, but they have their negatives as well as positives!

Best of luck with Armada. I really think it is a great product!

Lyn Heiges
CD28 MOON CHILD
St. Pete Beach, Florida

Does anyone know what the difference is between these two products? I'm seriously considering using Armada but am wondering which one I should use?

Thanks for the input,
Bette CD28 #280 Starfish

Lyn, Thanks, you have reaffirmed my decision to go with the original Armada.

Bette



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