Can anyone tell me the imperial measurement of the CD30 stern gland
nut and locking piece. I am wanting to order one of Westmarines
spanners for adjusting these. I did make two from aluminium but they have stretched a little and no longer do the job. Appreciated.
Murray Glue
Dayspring
CD30
Nelson
New Zealand
106452.2173@compuserve.com
CD30 Stern Gland Size
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Ken Coit
Re: CD30 Stern Gland Size
Murray,
I think that Spartan intended for us to use a small hammer and a drift pin (or equivalent) to adjust the stuffing box. I doubt that the West Marine tools will fit those knobs on the Spartan box. Spartan does list a tool if you really want one. See the link below for the Spartan site.
Ken
parfait@nc.rr.com
I think that Spartan intended for us to use a small hammer and a drift pin (or equivalent) to adjust the stuffing box. I doubt that the West Marine tools will fit those knobs on the Spartan box. Spartan does list a tool if you really want one. See the link below for the Spartan site.
Ken
Murray Glue wrote: Can anyone tell me the imperial measurement of the CD30 stern gland
nut and locking piece. I am wanting to order one of Westmarines
spanners for adjusting these. I did make two from aluminium but they have stretched a little and no longer do the job. Appreciated.
Murray Glue
Dayspring
CD30
Nelson
New Zealand
parfait@nc.rr.com
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Dale Weston
Re: CD30 Stern Gland Size
I'll offer a "Yes, but. . ." to Ken's answer. The Spartan packing gland nut is not a standard hexagon shape, but rather rounder with grooves running parallel to the shaft for their special tool. If that's the sort of setup you've got, the choice is the inordinately priced special tool or tap tap tap as Ken suggests.Ken Coit wrote: Murray,
However, my 1979 CD30 has a standard hexagon shaped nut. For these the West Marine tool is the way to go. The 2000 West Catalog pg 287 Wrench PBW-100 which is for 1" - 1 1/8" shafts works fine. I found the West source and examined the wrenches after purchasing the same item from my local marina for $20.00 each.
Enjoy the wrenching experience that the job entails.
majortest@earthlink.net
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D. Stump, Hanalei
Re: Here's what I do....
Captain Glue,
On Hanalei, CD-30 with Universal 18, 14hp diesel, straight aft driveshaft(no "V" drive). I have an approximately 18" piece of brass shafting about 3/4" diameter. I lean in over the top of the engine, put a flood light illuminating the stuffing box, place the end of the shaft in contact with one of the "bumps" on the locking nut of the stuffing box, and smack it once with a hammer. This loosens the lock nut, and simply tap on the packing nut to tighten it as much as you think is necessary. Reverse the process to re-set the locking nut, and you are done. Oh, another thing, spray that nut and all the threads you can see with a good lubricant(don't want this rusting up or jamming because of gunk!).
The good thing about this is that you don't need to empty the lazzeretts(sp), you don't have to go in behind the engine, upside down and backwards, there is no cussing or broken knuckles, no leg or belly cramps when you are stuck down there, and most importantly of all, it only takes a few minutes.
If you are really stuck on the wrenches, West Marine does have some adjustable ones, but I have never had good luck with them. They just were not made to work well when you are upside down and backwards sliding down into the bilge.
Now, for really important stuff...how is Summer down there Mate? Up here in New England the forecast is for 50-60 mph winds, temps in the high to mid teens tonight(we still have a little of the 12" of snow we got the other day still on the ground!). We did have a little reprieve yesterday, it was in the fifty degree range! But, that will go away tonight!
Hey, Murray, what do you folks have down there that is comparable to a Ground Hog for forecasting the end of Winter?
Good talking to ya Mate, hope you are having just beautiful weather, and "No Worrys" about the stuffing box, the drift and tap method is the way to go...I remain your most humble servant...
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30
On Hanalei, CD-30 with Universal 18, 14hp diesel, straight aft driveshaft(no "V" drive). I have an approximately 18" piece of brass shafting about 3/4" diameter. I lean in over the top of the engine, put a flood light illuminating the stuffing box, place the end of the shaft in contact with one of the "bumps" on the locking nut of the stuffing box, and smack it once with a hammer. This loosens the lock nut, and simply tap on the packing nut to tighten it as much as you think is necessary. Reverse the process to re-set the locking nut, and you are done. Oh, another thing, spray that nut and all the threads you can see with a good lubricant(don't want this rusting up or jamming because of gunk!).
The good thing about this is that you don't need to empty the lazzeretts(sp), you don't have to go in behind the engine, upside down and backwards, there is no cussing or broken knuckles, no leg or belly cramps when you are stuck down there, and most importantly of all, it only takes a few minutes.
If you are really stuck on the wrenches, West Marine does have some adjustable ones, but I have never had good luck with them. They just were not made to work well when you are upside down and backwards sliding down into the bilge.
Now, for really important stuff...how is Summer down there Mate? Up here in New England the forecast is for 50-60 mph winds, temps in the high to mid teens tonight(we still have a little of the 12" of snow we got the other day still on the ground!). We did have a little reprieve yesterday, it was in the fifty degree range! But, that will go away tonight!
Hey, Murray, what do you folks have down there that is comparable to a Ground Hog for forecasting the end of Winter?
Good talking to ya Mate, hope you are having just beautiful weather, and "No Worrys" about the stuffing box, the drift and tap method is the way to go...I remain your most humble servant...
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30
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Ken Coit
Re: CD30 Stern Gland Size
Again, I defer to the person with local knowledge.
Ken
parfait@nc.rr.com
Ken
Dale Weston wrote:I'll offer a "Yes, but. . ." to Ken's answer. The Spartan packing gland nut is not a standard hexagon shape, but rather rounder with grooves running parallel to the shaft for their special tool. If that's the sort of setup you've got, the choice is the inordinately priced special tool or tap tap tap as Ken suggests.Ken Coit wrote: Murray,
However, my 1979 CD30 has a standard hexagon shaped nut. For these the West Marine tool is the way to go. The 2000 West Catalog pg 287 Wrench PBW-100 which is for 1" - 1 1/8" shafts works fine. I found the West source and examined the wrenches after purchasing the same item from my local marina for $20.00 each.
Enjoy the wrenching experience that the job entails.
parfait@nc.rr.com
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Murray Glue
Re: CD30 Stern Gland Size
Dale,
Thanks indeed. I have the same type of gland as you, so I will chase up a Westmarine spanner ( or 2 ) to do the job. Keeping an eye on these stern glands is one of the joys of boating. I am glad that I have been blessed with a lean frame...
Murray
106452.2173@compuserve.com
Thanks indeed. I have the same type of gland as you, so I will chase up a Westmarine spanner ( or 2 ) to do the job. Keeping an eye on these stern glands is one of the joys of boating. I am glad that I have been blessed with a lean frame...
Murray
106452.2173@compuserve.com
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Murray Glue
Re: Here's what I do....
Dave,
Thanks for that. Dayspring is totally devoid of lumps on her gland nut, maybe those came in after 1979 ( or maybe there were drugs back then that could cure such a dilemna ).
We have had a very windy but warm summer...drought conditions almost.
The sailing has been excellent, but the anchorages rather hard to pick sometimes. Winter here doesnt quite reach the extremes of your locale, and generally New Zealand is struggling to get really cold now. I can recall in the late 50s having to dig holes in the snow to find out which VW Beetle was which after a weekend in the mountains, skiing.
Now, we are praying for snow, and owning a skifield is a risky business. The sailing here in Nelson is excellent in the winter, especially in a Cape Dory with its layers of grp and its kerosine heater. Very few people venture out, and the anchorages are quiet and peaceful.
I am taking Dayspring out today for the last time in a while...I have to go to the office tomorrow which for me is a ten hour flight away in Singapore. Hey...if you think living in a high latitude has its problems, feel for those who live close to the equator where it just stinks with heat every day, without respite. Give me the adventure of 4 seasons anyday.
Fair winds for when the ice thaws. Oh, and watch this board for when Bob Lowenstein reports on his new kiwi made sails, just recently carried back to the States...
Murray
106452.2173@compuserve.com
Thanks for that. Dayspring is totally devoid of lumps on her gland nut, maybe those came in after 1979 ( or maybe there were drugs back then that could cure such a dilemna ).
We have had a very windy but warm summer...drought conditions almost.
The sailing has been excellent, but the anchorages rather hard to pick sometimes. Winter here doesnt quite reach the extremes of your locale, and generally New Zealand is struggling to get really cold now. I can recall in the late 50s having to dig holes in the snow to find out which VW Beetle was which after a weekend in the mountains, skiing.
Now, we are praying for snow, and owning a skifield is a risky business. The sailing here in Nelson is excellent in the winter, especially in a Cape Dory with its layers of grp and its kerosine heater. Very few people venture out, and the anchorages are quiet and peaceful.
I am taking Dayspring out today for the last time in a while...I have to go to the office tomorrow which for me is a ten hour flight away in Singapore. Hey...if you think living in a high latitude has its problems, feel for those who live close to the equator where it just stinks with heat every day, without respite. Give me the adventure of 4 seasons anyday.
Fair winds for when the ice thaws. Oh, and watch this board for when Bob Lowenstein reports on his new kiwi made sails, just recently carried back to the States...
Murray
106452.2173@compuserve.com
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D. Stump, Hanalei
Re: You could still....
Murray,
You could still use the drift I described. All you have to do is place it just before one of the flats and give it a tap. In other words, if say it is a hex nut, just tap on one of the flats where it makes up to the next flat. By the way, that locking nut doesn't have to be real tight, only tight enough to maintain your adjustment and not work loose due to vibration, etc.
At any rate, anything you can do to avoid going into the bilge area behind the engine is to my way of thinking an advantage.
Sorry to here that you will not be sailing for a while. But, then again, "Absence makes the heart grow fonder" (both for women AND Cape Dorys). Talk to you soon....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30
You could still use the drift I described. All you have to do is place it just before one of the flats and give it a tap. In other words, if say it is a hex nut, just tap on one of the flats where it makes up to the next flat. By the way, that locking nut doesn't have to be real tight, only tight enough to maintain your adjustment and not work loose due to vibration, etc.
At any rate, anything you can do to avoid going into the bilge area behind the engine is to my way of thinking an advantage.
Sorry to here that you will not be sailing for a while. But, then again, "Absence makes the heart grow fonder" (both for women AND Cape Dorys). Talk to you soon....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30