We've just purchased a CD 31, which did not have the sails bent and so I was not able to see how the outhaul was rigged for the club staysail. The aft end fitting of the club has an eye on the top in which there is presently a small shackle. And there is a cleat on the starboard side of the club. Does anyone do anything more than run a single-part outhaul through the shackle and to the cleat?
With thanks,
David Brownlee
CD 31 #1 "Windrush"
dbrownle@sas.upenn.edu
Staysail club rigging
Moderator: Jim Walsh
Re: Staysail club rigging
David, You need a topping lift to hold the club boom up when the staysail isn't up, otherwise the boom rests on the forehatch and rolls around. On mine I use the eye on top of the boom to snap the topping lift into. The outhaul goes to a small block, makes one turn and then cleats off to the cleat on the starboard side of the boom. You have to release the outhaul or you can't lower the staysail due to that usual triangle problem. So the hoisting procedure is to leave the topping lift attached until you run the staysail up with the outhaul slack. Ease the staysail sheet. Now go forward on the starboard side and tighten the outhaul line and belay it to the cleat. As the outhaul is tightened it raises the boom. Once the sail has the weight of the boom you unhook the topping lift, haul in the staysail sheet and sail away. My club boom has two holes in the top. The forward one receives the shackle on the block, the aft one receives the shackle on the topping lift. If you only have one hole, the shackle probably accepts both the outhaul block and the topping lift shackle.David Brownlee wrote: We've just purchased a CD 31, which did not have the sails bent and so I was not able to see how the outhaul was rigged for the club staysail. The aft end fitting of the club has an eye on the top in which there is presently a small shackle. And there is a cleat on the starboard side of the club. Does anyone do anything more than run a single-part outhaul through the shackle and to the cleat?
With thanks,
David Brownlee
CD 31 #1 "Windrush"
When you get the staysail out you may find a block and shackle attached to the clew. Chances are the shackle on the boom is to clip the topping lift into. The topping lift serves a dual purpose as the topping lift for the whisker pole and also as the topping lift for the staysail boom when the staysail isn't up. When you're anchored you have to tie the topping lift line away from the mast or it will drive you crazy banging against the mast at night. The blocks on the staysail sheets will also rattle if you don't have a way to tighten the staysail sheet, so you need a topping lift to tighten against.
Hope this makes sense.
Tom
CD 31 #15 "Heiress"
TomCambria@mindspring.com
Re: Staysail club rigging
David Brownlee wrote: We've just purchased a CD 31, which did not have the sails bent and so I was not able to see how the outhaul was rigged for the club staysail. The aft end fitting of the club has an eye on the top in which there is presently a small shackle. And there is a cleat on the starboard side of the club. Does anyone do anything more than run a single-part outhaul through the shackle and to the cleat?
With thanks,
David Brownlee
CD 31 #1 "Windrush"
md.frel@nwh.org
Re: Staysail club rigging
David Brownlee wrote: We've just purchased a CD 31, which did not have the sails bent and so I was not able to see how the outhaul was rigged for the club staysail. The aft end fitting of the club has an eye on the top in which there is presently a small shackle. And there is a cleat on the starboard side of the club. Does anyone do anything more than run a single-part outhaul through the shackle and to the cleat?
With thanks,
David Brownlee
CD 31 #1 "Windrush"
md.frel@nwh.org
Re: Staysail club rigging
david
i've never usd an outhaul on my boat - i have had to modify the sail cover because the sail goes up higher on the stay when flaked than it would if i used an outhaul - the topping lift is, as tom wrote, very useful both for the staysail and for a spinnaker boom -
len
md.frel@nwh.org
i've never usd an outhaul on my boat - i have had to modify the sail cover because the sail goes up higher on the stay when flaked than it would if i used an outhaul - the topping lift is, as tom wrote, very useful both for the staysail and for a spinnaker boom -
len
md.frel@nwh.org
Re: Staysail club rigging
On our CD30, we have installed a small double block with becket on the booms' lower eye (at the end cap, there are two eyes..one for the topping lift that Tom spoke of, and a second lower eye, which I am talking about). On the sails' clew, we installed another small dbl. block. Next we rove a 1/4 in. double braided line from the booms' end cap to the sails' clew, back to the end cap etc. The last turn will be at the boom end, which sends the line forward, parallel with the boom, to the gooseneck. Here we mounted a small turning block, which now sends the 1/4 in. line back to the cockpit, but now just above deck level, via a small turning block mounted to the base of each stanchion (this keeps the line out of reach of your feet!). Back in the cockpit, I mounted a jam cleat on the coaming exterior surface.
Now when we sail, I use the outhaul to adjust the curvature of the staysail, which effects the 140% genoa behind it. We can adjust the sail for any wind condition now.
We also ordered a new staysail for this spring, with a single reef point in it. Now this sail becomes even more powerful.
Cheers!
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30
demers@sgi.com
Now when we sail, I use the outhaul to adjust the curvature of the staysail, which effects the 140% genoa behind it. We can adjust the sail for any wind condition now.
We also ordered a new staysail for this spring, with a single reef point in it. Now this sail becomes even more powerful.
Cheers!
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30
David Brownlee wrote: We've just purchased a CD 31, which did not have the sails bent and so I was not able to see how the outhaul was rigged for the club staysail. The aft end fitting of the club has an eye on the top in which there is presently a small shackle. And there is a cleat on the starboard side of the club. Does anyone do anything more than run a single-part outhaul through the shackle and to the cleat?
With thanks,
David Brownlee
CD 31 #1 "Windrush"
demers@sgi.com
Consider removing the boom......
............we did just that, at the suggestion of a local sailmaker. He checked the set of the sail, decided we did not need clewboards, and rigged a block and shackle at the clew to control the sheet.
PROs: Clear fore deck, happy wife, safer, no more bruised shins, no topping lift, one less halyard slapping the mast, makes switch over to sloop rig easier when flying the jenny (release inner forestay and go - one less piece of gear off the deck, one less thing to shag the foot of the jenny),
CONs: Have to bag the sail, not a perfect set (how perfect does it need to be for goofing around ? ).
Check your's out. I am really glad I did it. Even if I had to add a clew board I'd do it all over again......
G'luk
John Nuttall
s/v Aimless
CD31 #28
Lizard Lick, NC
nuttallj@msn.com
PROs: Clear fore deck, happy wife, safer, no more bruised shins, no topping lift, one less halyard slapping the mast, makes switch over to sloop rig easier when flying the jenny (release inner forestay and go - one less piece of gear off the deck, one less thing to shag the foot of the jenny),
CONs: Have to bag the sail, not a perfect set (how perfect does it need to be for goofing around ? ).
Check your's out. I am really glad I did it. Even if I had to add a clew board I'd do it all over again......
G'luk
John Nuttall
s/v Aimless
CD31 #28
Lizard Lick, NC
nuttallj@msn.com