Ty Wkndr & Cal 20

[John]

Hi, The Ty is my first choice and the Cal 20 my second. After a long and thorough search I'm going to buy a Cal 20. Price and availability were the determining factors. Interested in your comments on the two boats. Thanks



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[Tom]

Hi, The Ty is my first choice and the Cal 20 my second. After a long and thorough search I'm going to buy a Cal 20. Price and availability were the determining factors. Interested in your comments on the two boats. Thanks

It all depends upon what you want to do with the boat. The Cal 20 is a fin keel spade rudder deal with high freeboard and what I call watermelon sections, i.e., a cross section that looks like a Clorox bottle. That high freeboard, lack of sheer and flush deck is pretty ugly to my eye, but the high freeboard gives you a sense of space below for a 20 foot boat. The sail surprisingly well, but that flat bottom will make them pound in any kind of a sea. They are not as strongly built as the Cape Dory boats but you're probably not going to have either of these boats out in a survival storm.

The Typhoon is a shippier looking boat, has a full keel and is famous for its sailing qualities. Its wine glass section will be more sea kindly and won't pound in a sea like the flat bottom boats do. The Cape Dory boats are famous for their stout construction. It's lower freeboard makes it a prettier boat and a more handy sailer than the Cal but it feels like a smaller boat especially below.

Thus in the choice between a traditional, stoutly built, sea kindly, full keeled boat with pretty lines or a "modern", lightly built, fin keeled boat that is less sea kindly and has less pleasing lines but more room below you have chosen the latter. As a pocket cruiser where living space below is paramont it's probably the right choice for you.

Just my not so humble opinion -- which is what you asked for.



TomCambria@mindspring.com

[sloopjohnl]

imho your first choice was the right choice, but if an ugly boat with a little better turn of speed and a little more stooping room inside is what you are willing to settle for, then your second choice will suffice. just watch those weather clouds.

Hi, The Ty is my first choice and the Cal 20 my second. After a long and thorough search I'm going to buy a Cal 20. Price and availability were the determining factors. Interested in your comments on the two boats. Thanks

[Ron Musk]

Hi, The Ty is my first choice and the Cal 20 my second. After a long and thorough search I'm going to buy a Cal 20. Price and availability were the determining factors. Interested in your comments on the two boats. Thanks

It all depends upon what you want to do with the boat. The Cal 20 is a fin keel spade rudder deal with high freeboard and what I call watermelon sections, i.e., a cross section that looks like a Clorox bottle. That high freeboard, lack of sheer and flush deck is pretty ugly to my eye, but the high freeboard gives you a sense of space below for a 20 foot boat. The sail surprisingly well, but that flat bottom will make them pound in any kind of a sea. They are not as strongly built as the Cape Dory boats but you're probably not going to have either of these boats out in a survival storm.

The Typhoon is a shippier looking boat, has a full keel and is famous for its sailing qualities. Its wine glass section will be more sea kindly and won't pound in a sea like the flat bottom boats do. The Cape Dory boats are famous for their stout construction. It's lower freeboard makes it a prettier boat and a more handy sailer than the Cal but it feels like a smaller boat especially below.

Thus in the choice between a traditional, stoutly built, sea kindly, full keeled boat with pretty lines or a "modern", lightly built, fin keeled boat that is less sea kindly and has less pleasing lines but more room below you have chosen the latter. As a pocket cruiser where living space below is paramont it's probably the right choice for you.

Just my not so humble opinion -- which is what you asked for.

Well said,I've always considered sailing a boat in the water rather than on it.
Ron Musk
s/v "R&R" CD30



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[Hal Silliman]

Hi, The Ty is my first choice and the Cal 20 my second. After a long and thorough search I'm going to buy a Cal 20. Price and availability were the determining factors. Interested in your comments on the two boats. Thanks

Cal 20 is a great boat. It sails well and the flat-top deck makes sail management easy. I sailed as crew on one in the S.F. Bay and Delta. They are certainly more of them around -- at least on the West Coast -- than the TY. I had fun fun fun on this boat.



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