I recently discovered while taking my mizzen sail down on 30K,that the barrel attachments were to large to remove from the mast gate.Has anyone else experienced this. Im now debating leaving the sail on,until replacement . Thanks Jody Kaplan
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mizzen sailslides
Moderator: Jim Walsh
Re: mizzen sailslides
The sail slugs went in; they have to come out! Did you open the gate all the way? My 30K mizzen works fine, but the mainsail gate was fitted improperly when I bought it this summer. I had to remove and re-fit the gate, but it's OK now. You might also want to check with a sailmaker. Where is your boat?
Jim Heldberg
Cape Dory 30K "Leoma"
San Francisco Bay
jimhpac@aol.com
Jim Heldberg
Cape Dory 30K "Leoma"
San Francisco Bay
Jody Kaplan wrote: I recently discovered while taking my mizzen sail down on 30K,that the barrel attachments were to large to remove from the mast gate.Has anyone else experienced this. Im now debating leaving the sail on,until replacement . Thanks Jody Kaplan
jimhpac@aol.com
Re: mizzen sailslides
Jody - a wierd idea, but it may work. If you can take the cap off the masthead, maybe you can pull he sail up and out and not down and out. It seems that if they were put in, they should be able to come out of the gate.
- Bob
millerfam5050@worldnet.att.net
- Bob
millerfam5050@worldnet.att.net
Re: mizzen sailslides
Thanks for the answers,the gate appears to be long gone,with only the indication one had been there by an outline.Thanks JodyJim wrote: The sail slugs went in; they have to come out! Did you open the gate all the way? My 30K mizzen works fine, but the mainsail gate was fitted improperly when I bought it this summer. I had to remove and re-fit the gate, but it's OK now. You might also want to check with a sailmaker. Where is your boat?
Jim Heldberg
Cape Dory 30K "Leoma"
San Francisco Bay
Jody Kaplan wrote: I recently discovered while taking my mizzen sail down on 30K,that the barrel attachments were to large to remove from the mast gate.Has anyone else experienced this. Im now debating leaving the sail on,until replacement . Thanks Jody Kaplan
jody_kaplan@hotmail.com/
Re: mizzen sailslides
Jody,
On my 1977 CD30 the is no gate on the mizzen, just a large slot to let the slides out. We use a sail tie wrapped around the mast to keep the slides from dropping out.
If you remove the gate completely there should be enough room to remove the slides.
Olli Wendelin
BLUE MOON
Charleston, SC
wendelin@spawar.navy.mil
On my 1977 CD30 the is no gate on the mizzen, just a large slot to let the slides out. We use a sail tie wrapped around the mast to keep the slides from dropping out.
If you remove the gate completely there should be enough room to remove the slides.
Olli Wendelin
BLUE MOON
Charleston, SC
wendelin@spawar.navy.mil
Re: mizzen sailslides
Jody;
It is not clear how long you have had your ketch and whether you have ever removed the mizzen sail.
Some background... on my ketch the mizzen mast has a cylindrical groove to be used with barrel shaped slides. The groove is completely machined away on both sides to provide a loading slot. The slides are kept from dropping out of the slot by a dummy barrel slide which is inserted after all of the sail slides have been inserted. The dummy barrel slide is kept in place by a knurled nut which clamps the dummy to the groove. In this scheme, the slides cannot go below the level of the slot for reefing or furling. On my main mast which has rectangular slides, the loading slot is achieved by machining only one side of the mast groove. There is a hinged gate over the slot to be closed after all of the slides have been loaded. This scheme allows the slides to go below the level of the gate when the sail is reefed or furled.
Now to your mizzen; If the slot is like mine, it should be wide open after the dummy slide is removed. Has anything happened this season which could have kinked the slot? (wild jibe, dock encounter,...etc). If not, could anything have become jammed in the slot (say a broken slide or portion thereof). Do any of the slides come out or is the very first one (bottom) jammed? On my slides the cylindrical slug is plastic and the bail for attaching to the sail is metal (could the bail have been bent or broken).
Good luck,
Joe Mac Phee
S/V Iolanthe
CD 30K
jvmacphee@aol.com
It is not clear how long you have had your ketch and whether you have ever removed the mizzen sail.
Some background... on my ketch the mizzen mast has a cylindrical groove to be used with barrel shaped slides. The groove is completely machined away on both sides to provide a loading slot. The slides are kept from dropping out of the slot by a dummy barrel slide which is inserted after all of the sail slides have been inserted. The dummy barrel slide is kept in place by a knurled nut which clamps the dummy to the groove. In this scheme, the slides cannot go below the level of the slot for reefing or furling. On my main mast which has rectangular slides, the loading slot is achieved by machining only one side of the mast groove. There is a hinged gate over the slot to be closed after all of the slides have been loaded. This scheme allows the slides to go below the level of the gate when the sail is reefed or furled.
Now to your mizzen; If the slot is like mine, it should be wide open after the dummy slide is removed. Has anything happened this season which could have kinked the slot? (wild jibe, dock encounter,...etc). If not, could anything have become jammed in the slot (say a broken slide or portion thereof). Do any of the slides come out or is the very first one (bottom) jammed? On my slides the cylindrical slug is plastic and the bail for attaching to the sail is metal (could the bail have been bent or broken).
Good luck,
Joe Mac Phee
S/V Iolanthe
CD 30K
jvmacphee@aol.com